Dying NASA scientist videos??

[Laura]

While poking about today, I came across these:

Dying nasa scientist reveals truth about life on mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDeA1_mKffY&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=17&feature=plcp

Dying nasa scientist reveals truth about life on mars #2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSPsTvPdyQg&feature=related

Dying nasa scientist reveals truth about life on mars #3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgRDdoIF-Dw&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=15&feature=plcp

Dying nasa scientist reveals the truth about life on mars.#4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPL9ZxCOxCc&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=14&feature=plcp

Dying Nasa Scientist talks about alien life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1brjmOKFVc&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=12&feature=plcp

Dying nasa scientist reveals truth about life on mars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLHI5vXHnOU&feature=autoplay&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&lf=plcp&playnext=1

DYING NASA SCIENTIST TALKS ABOUT SOCIETY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhOoDlpGin0&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=11&feature=plcp

Dying Nasa Scientist shows footage of an alien
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06HB2_7vhWk&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=10&feature=plcp

Dying Nasa Scientist shows how to contact beings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRFC4vAR7yI&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=9&feature=plcp

Dying nasa scientist shows audio/video of alien transmission.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVnsc4yROnU&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=8&feature=plcp

Dying Nasa Scientist being threatened by outside forces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqknKbZTqmY&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=7&feature=plcp

Dying Nasa Scientist on the alien origin of consciousness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UICs8bBEasE&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=6&feature=plcp

Dying nasa scientist describes the mothership
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-uGSUDCBxA&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=4&feature=plcp

Dying Nasa Scientist on the alien origin of materialism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDUTO1msA0Y&feature=autoplay&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&lf=plcp&playnext=1

Dying nasa scientist shows how to neutralize an alien.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo0decEybWo&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=3&feature=plcp

The Goat And The Be Hive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5mPWphmHjE&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=2&feature=plcp

Alien tuning fork
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3IfOUfj63o&list=UUm5OpuWhw9QykhGy8FTqpPg&index=1&feature=plcp


Some of these are creepy, others are incoherent. Is it a spoof or the real deal, even if filtered through the perceptions of someone without access to C's material???

 

[Finduilas495]

I did a Google search on the law firm "Lorber and Jakob" and so far no luck. The videos are indeed weird, which probably could be explained if the author had a brain tumor. I noticed that the attorney said in the video they weren't allowed to release the man's identity before October 2008, but couldn't find anything recent about his identity either.

 

[Laura]

I did a Google search on the law firm "Lorber and Jakob" and so far no luck. The videos are indeed weird, which probably could be explained if the author had a brain tumor. I noticed that the attorney said in the video they weren't allowed to release the man's identity before October 2008, but couldn't find anything recent about his identity either.

I don't know what a brain tumor has to do with it. It can all be explained by having to deal with that kind of info AND taking pain meds while facing death.

 

[Joe]

Seems like the work of someone enamored with 'satanic' lore. I could imagine VB doing something like this.

 

[Finduilas495]

I did a Google search on the law firm "Lorber and Jakob" and so far no luck. The videos are indeed weird, which probably could be explained if the author had a brain tumor. I noticed that the attorney said in the video they weren't allowed to release the man's identity before October 2008, but couldn't find anything recent about his identity either.

I don't know what a brain tumor has to do with it. It can all be explained by having to deal with that kind of info AND taking pain meds while facing death.

You're right, I should have taken the whole situation into account and not just singled out one piece of data (if it's factual that is).

 

[Beorn]

It's interesting that in the first few videos he talks about the hyper-dimensional nature of the aliens and how they feed off chaos and then in the following videos plays sounds and footage that he says will open a channel for the aliens to make contact!

If he's the real deal why did he include so much subliminal content like the spinning wheel, pictures of a baby with a convex mirror and eye on it's face,etc?

 

[Joe]

It's interesting that in the first few videos he talks about the hyper-dimensional nature of the aliens and how they feed off chaos and then in the following videos plays sounds and footage that he says will open a channel for the aliens to make contact!

If he's the real deal why did he include so much subliminal content like the spinning wheel, pictures of a baby with a convex mirror and eye on it's face,etc?

Yeah, a Swastika, a pentagram, a bleeding woman tied to a chair. It all sounds like a rather sick joke, or worse, the work of a very sick person.

 

[Joe]

The alleged law firm of Jacob and Lorber might be a reference to this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Lorber

"There is a movement of adherents of Lorber's writings mostly active in German-speaking Europe"

"Occultist Leopold Engel was one of Lorber's followers"

"During the 1890s Engel became involved with Theodor Reuss in reviving the Illuminati, setting up an irregular masonic lodge which they called the Ludwig Lodge."

 

[mada85]

It's interesting that in the first few videos he talks about the hyper-dimensional nature of the aliens and how they feed off chaos and then in the following videos plays sounds and footage that he says will open a channel for the aliens to make contact!

If he's the real deal why did he include so much subliminal content like the spinning wheel, pictures of a baby with a convex mirror and eye on it's face,etc?

Yeah, a Swastika, a pentagram, a bleeding woman tied to a chair. It all sounds like a rather sick joke, or worse, the work of a very sick person.

I watched seven or eight of these things and found them increasingly distasteful. As you say, JP, why say that the aliens are malevolent, and then encourage people to open the channel for them to enter??!! The mind boggles at that! And what was the idea of overlaying the footage of the atomic blast (Hiroshima?) with a photo of a (presumably hallucinogenic) mushroom?

These videos look to me like an attempt to vector people away from truth – some of the things mentioned have quite some similarity to things discussed here – by beginning the series with the hook of the revelation of secret knowledge, and discussion of malevolent aliens who are little more than spirit attachments, and then going off into opening the gates to something really nasty.

These videos are pandering to the followers of Crowley and worse, IMHO: those who want to immanentize the eschaton through planet-wide chaos and destruction; destruction of both physical structures and peoples' psychological structures.

 

[Laura]

The first four or so videos seem to be quite different from the later ones. Perhaps there is a difference in agenda between those and the later ones?

 

[Tigersoap]

Oh that's a new level of craziness right there, I feel like I've been staring into the mouth of insanity itself.
I could not stand watching them in full, I skipped through them, bad vibes all over, the noises, the music, the imagery...urgh.
And using a ventriloquist dummy is a big no no in every occasion.
If you intend to speak about such matter this certainly won't help.
My two cents.

 

[Finduilas495]

The alleged law firm of Jacob and Lorber might be a reference to this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jakob_Lorber

"There is a movement of adherents of Lorber's writings mostly active in German-speaking Europe"

"Occultist Leopold Engel was one of Lorber's followers"

"During the 1890s Engel became involved with Theodor Reuss in reviving the Illuminati, setting up an irregular masonic lodge which they called the Ludwig Lodge."

So maybe turning around the names is secret society (not so) subtlety? Kind of reminds me of something I've read recently about the Georgia Guidestones and a man named R. C. Christian which made me think of Christian Rosenkreutz.

OK now this is funny: I read the Wikipedia articles on Leopold Engel and Theodor Reuss. Apparently Reuss met William Wynn Westcott, the "Supreme Magus of the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia" while he was in England.

If the same group is behind this, they're not very creative.

Question is if these videos are disinformation or if they're intended for something else? I agree that they got increasingly disturbing and that the overall "flair" of the videos changed.

 

[Regulattor]

I can't understand why have author used voice modification if the recordings are to be released after his death!? This electronic voice modifications made me suspicious right away and I can't see the purpose except in emphasising dramatic tone of recordings, beside it was a bit hard to fallow his talk for me as non native English speaker. In the first part, informations about alien hyperdimensional origin and "infection" of human thoughts and language sounds interesting as well as feeding on chaos, but later videos are confusing.

 

[Meager1]

The first four or so videos seem to be quite different from the later ones. Perhaps there is a difference in agenda between those and the later ones?

I`m not sure how many folks got in on it, but if you notice the video names are different and only those uploaded by "nasajim108" seem to be what was intended to be released by this particular person, who obviously knew something he wanted to expose!
The other freaky ones uploaded by others, appear to be a distraction/annoyance or have another agenda altogether, though the subliminals were to obvious to be subliminal, your suppose to think they are, which is way weird by itself.
And I have to agree that some of those were just downright creepy, and evil.

There is of course "something" to the original information that (nasajim) was attempting to get out there, then there is the agenda to over run that, with the other video`s to the point of being so bizarre, that most people won`t pay much attention to the correct information, which would be why the other video`s are mixed in with, and put close to the nasajim video`s, though they are from different authors.

You can tell that "nasa jim" knew something, and the others are just U tube freaks, or worst!

 

[Joe]

I had the thought afterwards that maybe the original audio of the guy talking was used by someone else who then put all these weird images and sounds over the top (complete with creepy ventriloquist's doll). If it was a real original release by a dying NASA scientist, this would be a good way to destroy its credibility.