Earthlings

[Laurentiu]

Hello Laurentiu,

after reading your post, this caught my attention:

We have a mountain in front of our house and we went hiking. At that time i was for about 7 months into the vegetarian diet and it really seamed that my endurance had increased. I was full of energy when we got to the top and all my friends needed to make a few breaks in between (this
mountain is ca.17000m high and the climb is very arduous).

I am not aware of any mountain on Earth whose peak is 17 kilometers above the sea level. You probably meant 1700 meters and not 17000?

Ups. Yes you are right Denis. I meant 1700m. I wasn't paying enough attention. Thanks for correcting that.

 

[Kaigen]

I just finished watching this and man was it hard to stomach. I feel unspeakably sad and disgusted at the torture done to those animals. The heartlessness is just beyond me. After seeing this movie I'm seriously considering to stop eating meat and stop buying leather shoes. I am already buying 'biological' meat, milk and cheese for the same reason for some time now. I first have to figure out if I actually can do without eating meat, whether or not I got the body type so to say.

Hello Mechanic. Since you have over 300 post's you might have read one very important thread: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22916.0.html
Please understand that i felt the same way as you do right now and that i had the same intentions (see my post below) after watching this film.

Mechanic, I think another good thing for you to read is The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith. She was a vegetarian for 20 some years and it nearly killed her. What she ended up finding out through a lot of research is that Big Agriculture is killing a whole lot of critters as well as destroying the topsoil of the planet so nothing can grow.

Also reading Primal Body, Primal Mind by Nora T. Gedgaudas will show you how being a vegetarian not only hurts your body, but also messes with your mental faculties.

I know that the way the pathologicals treat animals is beyond horrid and they need to be done away with. The best way to do this is to buy meat from local farmers, especially those who have grass fed/grass finished animals and that are certified organic. They usually treat their animals very well and are conscientious about their treatment.

We have been eating fat and meat for a very, very, very long time. Much longer than we have been eating loads of carbs. So to truly nourish our bodies and minds, we need to continue eating fat and meat. It makes a body strong and it also helps to keep us healthy - even during times of great upheavals.

I just want to say that Mechanic wrote this 4 years ago. :)

 

[Laurentiu]

I just want to say that Mechanic wrote this 4 years ago. :)

Thank you Kaigen. I wasn't paying attention to that since this thread was on top of the first page. I automaticaly thought that this is a new thread without looking on the date. That is now somehow ebarrassing.

 

[Nienna]

I just finished watching this and man was it hard to stomach. I feel unspeakably sad and disgusted at the torture done to those animals. The heartlessness is just beyond me. After seeing this movie I'm seriously considering to stop eating meat and stop buying leather shoes. I am already buying 'biological' meat, milk and cheese for the same reason for some time now. I first have to figure out if I actually can do without eating meat, whether or not I got the body type so to say.

Hello Mechanic. Since you have over 300 post's you might have read one very important thread: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22916.0.html
Please understand that i felt the same way as you do right now and that i had the same intentions (see my post below) after watching this film.

Mechanic, I think another good thing for you to read is The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith. She was a vegetarian for 20 some years and it nearly killed her. What she ended up finding out through a lot of research is that Big Agriculture is killing a whole lot of critters as well as destroying the topsoil of the planet so nothing can grow.

Also reading Primal Body, Primal Mind by Nora T. Gedgaudas will show you how being a vegetarian not only hurts your body, but also messes with your mental faculties.

I know that the way the pathologicals treat animals is beyond horrid and they need to be done away with. The best way to do this is to buy meat from local farmers, especially those who have grass fed/grass finished animals and that are certified organic. They usually treat their animals very well and are conscientious about their treatment.

We have been eating fat and meat for a very, very, very long time. Much longer than we have been eating loads of carbs. So to truly nourish our bodies and minds, we need to continue eating fat and meat. It makes a body strong and it also helps to keep us healthy - even during times of great upheavals.

I just want to say that Mechanic wrote this 4 years ago. :)

Oops! Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

 

[Denis]

God I love this network! Whenever you forget to use a self corrective application (for example: misspelling some word or number & so on), somebody else who is registered here will point out to you what you have missed to do or to notice by yourself. Reminds me of how important it is to pay attention to details in everything, otherwise our perception of things can be pretty narrow.

Regarding the movie, I watched it 2 years ago and it was really disturbing to watch it to the end (yep, I cried a lot- was angry and sad at the same time) but I forced myself anyway cos I made a conscious choice to learn about the truth no matter how horrible it was. You can't change anything for the better if you are not aware of the true state of affairs- at least this is my current understanding. As Jiddu Krishnamurti once said: To understand is to transform what is. And we cannot transform anything for the better unless we work together as one towards a common goal- improving the quality of life for everyone, especially for the children who have yet to come cos what we have now is an insult to human intelligence and the great crime against life. :(

 

[Tristan]

Why Peter Singer is a poor guide for embracing human diversity:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-love-wisdom/201111/peter-singer-espousing-lack-human-diversity-20-years-and-counting

Peter Singer is a super-famous philosopher at Princeton who has gotten famous from 1) being all over animal rights, and 2) saying that people with disabilities (particularly cognitive disabilities) are okay if you're in a family with one of them and you personally are all emotional, but our world would be better off without them. He keeps saying point #2, despite people (often those with disabilities) repeatedly pointing out how wrong and offensive this argument is, and how skewed and inaccurate his evidence is.

By Alison Piepmeier