Ebola & Updates

Thank you, Ocean.

This is very interesting.

[and Horseofadifferentcolor: I'm not sure I got youre comment rightly, I'm taking the whole topic seriously and don't see a fraud or hoax in everything.]

greetz
 
etezete said:
Thank you, Ocean.

This is very interesting.

[and Horseofadifferentcolor: I'm not sure I got youre comment rightly, I'm taking the whole topic seriously and don't see a fraud or hoax in everything.]

greetz

My comment was not directed at you. I live in central Texas and I can tell you first hand that response and panic are very real and in real time happening. Like I said before, whatever Ebola is, the effect is real.

_http://kxan.com/2014/10/17/georgetown-man-in-isolation-after-sharing-flight-with-ebola-patient/


The Georgetown man is an employee at Artco-Bell in Temple, where on Friday the business was taking precautions to protect their other workers.

“We did the work for the schools in Belton…and we were given a call and asked if we can stop here on the way back,” said Erick McCallum, owner of Cleaning Guys.

The Dallas-based company has been on the job since day one, disinfecting Dallas Presbyterian Hospital, and now the factory in Temple.

“What we are doing here is disinfecting,” McCallum said. “(We) go through all concerned areas and disinfect. Spraying all touched surfaces.”

“First we heard about Ebola situation in the air and then we found out our plant manager was on the same flight,” said Steve Holcomb, an employee at Artco-Bell. “So that was like, ‘whoa,’ hit home right there.”

Now coworkers wait, and hope for the best.

“He has common sense, down to earth, if you do something good he’ll compliment you,” Holcomb added. “If you do something bad he’ll let you know, he’s a good manager, top-notch.”

Employees say within the past few days antibacterial sanitizer has been made readily available. Hazmat crews say that’s a good precaution.

“Any type of scare like that has to be treated seriously,” Holcomb said.

The Cleaning Guys say the factory is very low risk, but that you can never be too cautious.

“We’re getting this knocked out and appreciate everyone’s support,” McCallum said, “and we’re in it to the end.”




_http://kxan.com/2014/10/17/travis-county-resident-was-on-flight-with-ebola-patient/
AUSTIN (KXAN) – A University of Texas student is now being monitored after being identified as one of the passengers on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143, from Cleveland to Dallas, the same flight Ebola patient Amber Vinson took after developing mild symptoms of the virus.

“All passengers on Flight 1143 have been evaluated for exposure and risk, and this individual was determined to be of lower risk than others who were in closer proximity to the carrier of the virus. While the individual has presented no symptoms, and poses no immediate risk to others, they have agreed to follow our recommendations and cooperate with our office to monitor their condition,” said Dr. Phil Huang, Medical Director for Austin/Travis County Health and Human Services.


_http://kxan.com/2014/10/17/hutto-woman-on-outbound-flight-with-ebola-patient/
HUTTO, Texas (KXAN/AP) — Williamson County health officials said Friday that a Hutto woman was on a plane to Cleveland with the nurse who later tested positive for Ebola. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday it was expanding its investigation to include passengers on an Oct. 10 flight from Dallas to Cleveland in which Amber Vinson was on.

_http://kxan.com/2014/10/16/georgetown-man-on-flight-with-nurse-later-diagnosed-with-ebola/
GEORGETOWN, Texas (KXAN) — A Georgetown man sitting in close proximity to a nurse who was later diagnosed with Ebola is being monitored by county health care officials.

The Williamson County and Cities Health District learned Thursday that the man was on Flight #1143 from Cleveland to Dallas with Amber Vinson, the second nurse to be infected with the Ebola virus. The Centers for Disease Control has maintained Vinson did not exhibit symptoms during the flight and the risk of exposure to other passengers is low.

The Georgetown man has not shown any symptoms of the virus and has decided to separate himself from others, including his family. Officials added that he has been “completely cooperative and compliant with recommendations from health officials.”



This is my local mainstream news. I personally witnessed a warning panic phone call Thursday night. My point is that I am seeing first hand from ground zero that the fallout from whatever Ebola is, is very real. Hoax or no, Ebola real or not, people are already panicking.
 
From Veterans Today: _http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/10/15/vt-issues-first-ebola-warning/

Even We Are Onboard

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

Editor’s note: Veterans Today came under a massive assault from the US Army Signals/Hacker Corps at Ft. Huchuca after this was published.

Only 2 reads, and down the site went. Something on here is very secret. Information on this site is directly sourced from an intelligence agency of a close US ally who is very upset that they have discovered the US involved in something extremely dirty and very dangerous.

This is what we have reason to believe: There is an organized terror plot on behalf of financial entities to spread Ebola through the United States. We believe airlines and hospitals are part of it, that Homeland Security and the TSA are involved.

I look on this as an analog of the “Crotch Bombing” in Detroit, Christmas some years ago when a filthy, mumbling and penniless (son of a millionaire CIA asset) Nigerian flew from Yemen to Ghana to Nigeria to Amsterdam to Detroit without tickets, a passport or visa, luggage or even a recent bath.

He flew first class.

At some point during his trip, airport security officials gave him a bomb, we believe at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam.

Today, the same thing is going on. We have information through private communication with a well known and sometimes maligned foreign intelligence agency that the US has been targeted.

Rather than use a weaponized Ebola strain, people are being purposefully infected with Ebola. As to who they are and why they allow this, there could be many reasons. I don’t care if they are jihadists, Boko Harum, mind controlled or whatever, that question and questions like it have conveniently been an excuse for blocking investigations and prosecutions.

We do not know for certain if this involved profit related to vaccinations but we do know that it involves the upcoming US election, oil price fluctuations and manipulation of the US stock markets.

Billions have been lost during the last 10 days but, more importantly, hundreds of billions will be made in what is now a pure “pump and dump” at the hands of the “grand cartel” that Preston James speaks of so often.

Today, Turkish tanks fired on Kurdish position defended by US air support inside Syria. The Turks are now fighting openly on the side of ISIS. Earlier to day, the Turks hit Kurdish positions inside Turkey and Syria with American built F 16s while denying the US the ability to use its own NATO bases inside Turkey.

The timing of the Ebola scare coincides with these actions and those behind ISIS, the Murdoch/Fox media group, the Koch Brothers, key leaders of the American right, McCain, Graham, along with the Bronfman and Giuliani groups, supported by Qatar and the Saudi Royal family and the Likudist mobsters in Israel are a good guess.

What is required is broad control over international travel, the media and the ability to move infected personnel into the US, using airlines but also human trafficking methods that Las Vegas and Macao casino bosses know very well, this is how Ebola is now being spread.

We estimate that as many as 5000 Americans have now been exposed to Ebola.

We are asking security personnel to record tail numbers, though the CIA doesn’t always use them, of private aircraft used to transport “disease vectors” into the US and Europe.

We have confirmations that this is being done. We do not have confirmations as to all involved but we do know the US is targeted and that the intent is to kill as many Americans as possible to undermine social cohesion and destroy whatever confidence the American people have in government.

We have traced financial operations behind this to Switzerland, UBS as handler of operational funds, and a number of CIA contractors as “prime movers.”

This is entirely a move from the political “right” and we have traced direct involvement to members of the Murdoch/Fox groups.

The Ebola scare, which we fear will become something far more sinister than a simple “scare” also is paralleled by a nuclear terrorism scare as well perpetrated by the Murdoch/Cheney consortium on behalf of the Al Qaeda operational group of former CIA, Mossad and Saudi intelligence officers.

My personal recommendation is to close US borders, stop all Africa travel, make medical checks on all air travel mandatory.

By closing borders, I mean “shoot to kill” on the Mexican border based on the nature of the threat.

Then we take a look at those involved, the oil and fuel futures manipulation, the market and currency games and stop the lying about ISIS.

Time we started jailing some, killing more and enforcing some of the real laws left.

Short URL: _http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=325820
 
A nurse friend of mine posted this on Facebook: _http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/blog/entry/statement-by-registered-nurses-at-texas-health-presbyterian-hospital-in-dal/

Statement by RN’s at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital as provided to National Nurses United

National Nurses United, 10/15/14

This is an inside story from some registered nurses at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas who have familiarity with what occurred at the hospital following the positive Ebola infection of first the late Thomas Eric Duncan and then a registered nurse who cared for him Nina Pham.

The RNs contacted National Nurses United out of frustration with a lack of training and preparation. They are choosing to remain anonymous out of fear of retaliation.

The RNs who have spoken to us from Texas Health Presbyterian are listening in on this call and this is their report based on their experiences and what other nurses are sharing with them. When we have finished with our statement, we will have time for several questions. The nurses will have the opportunity to respond to your questions via email that they will send to us, that we will read to you.

We are not identifying the nurses for their protection, but they work at Texas Health Presbyterian and have knowledge of what occurred at the hospital.

They feel a duty to speak out about the concerns that they say are shared by many in the hospital who are concerned about the protocols that were followed and what they view were confusion and frequently changing policies and protocols that are of concern to them, and to our organization as well.

When Thomas Eric Duncan first came into the hospital, he arrived with an elevated temperature, but was sent home.

On his return visit to the hospital, he was brought in by ambulance under the suspicion from him and family members that he may have Ebola.

Mr. Duncan was left for several hours, not in isolation, in an area where other patients were present.

No one knew what the protocols were or were able to verify what kind of personal protective equipment should be worn and there was no training.

Subsequently a nurse supervisor arrived and demanded that he be moved to an isolation unit– yet faced resistance from other hospital authorities.

Lab specimens from Mr. Duncan were sent through the hospital tube system without being specially sealed and hand delivered. The result is that the entire tube system by which all lab specimens are sent was potentially contaminated.

There was no advance preparedness on what to do with the patient, there was no protocol, there was no system. The nurses were asked to call the Infectious Disease Department. The Infectious Disease Department did not have clear policies to provide either.

Initial nurses who interacted with Mr. Duncan nurses wore a non-impermeable gown front and back, three pairs of gloves, with no taping around wrists, surgical masks, with the option of N-95s, and face shields. Some supervisors said that even the N-95 masks were not necessary.

The suits they were given still exposed their necks, the part closest to their face and mouth. They had suits with booties and hoods, three pairs of gloves, no tape.

For their necks, nurses had to use medical tape, that is not impermeable and has permeable seams, to wrap around their necks in order to protect themselves, and had to put on the tape and take it off on their own.

Nurses had to interact with Mr. Duncan with whatever protective equipment was available, at a time when he had copious amounts of diarrhea and vomiting which produces a lot of contagious fluids.

Hospital officials allowed nurses who had interacted with Mr. Duncan to then continue normal patient care duties, taking care of other patients, even though they had not had the proper personal protective equipment while caring for Mr. Duncan.

Patients who may have been exposed were one day kept in strict isolation units. On the next day were ordered to be transferred out of strict isolation into areas where there were other patients, even those with low-grade fevers who could potentially be contagious.

Were protocols breached? The nurses say there were no protocols.

Some hospital personnel were coming in and out of those isolation areas in the Emergency Department without having worn the proper protective equipment.

CDC officials who are in the hospital and Infectious Disease personnel have not kept hallways clean; they were going back and forth between the Isolation Pod and back into the hallways that were not properly cleaned, even after CDC, infectious control personnel, and doctors who exited into those hallways after being in the isolation pods.
Advance preparation

Advance preparation that had been done by the hospital primarily consisted of emailing us about one optional lecture/seminar on Ebola. There was no mandate for nurses to attend trainings, or what nurses had to do in the event of the arrival of a patient with Ebola-like symptoms.

This is a very large hospital. To be effective, any classes would have to offered repeatedly, covering all times when nurses work; instead this was treated like the hundreds of other seminars that are routinely offered to staff.

There was no advance hands-on training on the use of personal protective equipment for Ebola. No training on what symptoms to look for. No training on what questions to ask.

Even when some trainings did occur, after Mr. Duncan had tested positive for Ebola, they were limited, and they did not include having every nurse in the training practicing the proper way to don and doff, put on and take off, the appropriate personal protective equipment to assure that they would not be infected or spread an infection to anyone else.

Guidelines have now been changed, but it is not clear what version Nina Pham had available.

The hospital later said that their guidelines had changed and that the nurses needed to adhere to them. What has caused confusion is that the guidelines were constantly changing. It was later asked which guidelines should we follow? The message to the nurses was it’s up to you.

It is not up to the nurses to be setting the policy, nurses say, in the face of such a virulent disease. They needed to be trained optimally and correctly in how to deal with Ebola and the proper PPE doffing, as well as how to dispose of the waste.

In summary, the nurses state there have been no policies in cleaning or bleaching the premises without housekeeping services. There was no one to pick up hazardous waste as it piled to the ceiling. They did not have access to proper supplies and observed the Infectious Disease Department and CDC themselves violate basic principles of infection control, including cross contaminating between patients. In the end, the nurses strongly feel unsupported, unprepared, lied to, and deserted to handle the situation on their own.

We want our facility to be recognized as a leader in responding to this crisis. We also want to recognize the other nurses as heroes who put their lives on the line for their patients every day when they walk in the door.
 
Hospitals are notoriously germy places. They can't even stop things like rotovirus or C.Diff from spreading in units. There's no way they can contain Ebola. If you're a nurse or an aide dealing with bodily fluids something is going to get through at some point. A drop of blood, a bit of urine, someone coughs in your face, a little projectile vomiting -- all that comes with the territory on a regular day while working in a hospital. Multiple gloves, a mask and a paper gown aren't protection enough even in a non-Ebola situation. With Ebola, anything less than a full haz-mat suit is sheer insanity.

Dr. Gupta demonstrates how easy it is for "protocol" to be broken:

 
Odyssey said:
Multiple gloves, a mask and a paper gown aren't protection enough even in a non-Ebola situation. With Ebola, anything less than a full haz-mat suit is sheer insanity.

Yeah, with the former ones, it is easy enough to break the protocol, which newbies will invariably do. It could be relatively safe for surgeons and nurses who are used to that protocol and who have done it at least a few thousand times, but they will still be exposed.

Some colleagues were getting acquainted with the hazmat the other day. They were following international recommendations given and they still wrote down a list of doubts and inconsistencies. In the end, they were wondering if there was a video somewhere :/ Here is a somewhat enlightening article about it:

I'm a Hazmat-Trained Hospital Worker: Here's What No One Is Telling You About Ebola

_http://www.huffingtonpost.com/abby-norman/im-a-hazmat-trained-hospi_b_5998486.html

I've worked in health care for a few years now. One of the first things I took advantage of was training to become FEMA-certified for hazmat ops in a hospital setting. My rationale for this was that, in my home state of Maine, natural disasters are almost a given. We're also, though you may not know it, a state that has many major ports that receive hazardous liquids from ships and transport them inland. In the back of my mind, of course, I was aware that any hospital in the world could potentially find itself at the epicenter of a scene from The Hot Zone. That was several years ago. Today I'm thinking, by God, I might actually have to use this training. Mostly, though, I'm aware of just that -- that I did receive training. Lots of it. Because you can't just expect any nurse or any doctor or any health care worker or layperson to understand the deconning procedures by way of some kind of pamphlet or 10-minute training video. Not only is it mentally rigorous, but it's physically exhausting.

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PPE, or, personal protective equipment, is sort of a catch-all phrase for the suits, booties, gloves, hoods and in many cases respirators worn by individuals who are entering a hot zone. These suits are incredibly difficult to move in. You are wearing several layers of gloves, which limits your dexterity to basically nil, the hoods limit the scope of your vision -- especially your peripheral vision, which all but disappears. The suits are hot -- almost unbearably so. The respirator gives you clean air, but not cool air. These suits are for protection, not comfort. Before you even suit up, your vitals need to be taken. You can't perform in the suit for more than about a half hour at a time -- if you make it that long. Heat stroke is almost a given at that point. You have to be fully hydrated and calm before you even step into the suit. By the time you come out of it, and your vitals are taken again, you're likely to be feeling the impact -- you may not have taken more than a few steps in the suit, but you'll feel like you've run a marathon on a 90-degree day.

Getting the suit on is easy enough, but it requires team work. Your gloves, all layers of them, are taped to your suit. This provides an extra layer of protection and also limits your movement. There is a very specific way to tape all the way around so that there are no gaps or "tenting" of the tape. If you don't do this properly, there ends up being more than enough open pockets for contamination to seep in.

If you're wearing a respirator, it needs to be tested prior to donning to make sure it is in good condition and that the filter has been changed recently, so that it will do its job. Ebola is not airborne. It is not like influenza, which spreads on particles that you sneeze or cough. {Wrong!} However, Ebola lives in vomit, diarrhea and saliva  -- and these avenues for infection can travel. Projectile vomiting is called so for a reason. Particles that are in vomit may aerosolize at the moment the patient vomits. This is why if the nurses in Dallas were in the room when the first patient, Thomas Duncan, was actively vomiting, it would be fairly easy for them to become infected. Especially if they were not utilizing their PPE correctly.

The other consideration is this: The "doffing" procedure, that is, the removal of PPE, is the most crucial part. It is also the point at which the majority of mistakes are made, and my guess is that this is what happened in Dallas.

The PPE, if worn correctly, does an excellent job of protecting you while you are wearing it. But eventually you'll need to take it off. Before you begin, you need to decon the outside of the PPE. That's the first thing. This is often done in the field with hoses or mobile showers/tents. Once this crucial step has occurred, the removal of PPE needs to be done in pairs. You cannot safely remove it by yourself. One reason you are wearing several sets of gloves is so that you have sterile gloves beneath your exterior gloves that will help you to get out of your suit. The procedure for this is taught in FEMA courses, and you run drills with a buddy over and over again until you get it right. You remove the tape and discard it. You throw it away from you. You step out of your boots  --  careful not to let your body touch the sides. Your partner helps you to slither out of the suit, again, not touching the outside of it. This is difficult, and it cannot be rushed. The respirators need to be deconned, batteries changed, filters changed. The hoods, once deconnned, need to be stored properly. If the suits are disposable, they need to be disposed of properly. If not, they need to be thoroughly deconned and stored safely. And they always need to be checked for rips, tears, holes, punctures or any other even tiny, practically invisible openings that could make the suit vulnerable.

It is crazy...

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I vote for a Middle Ages design made up with impermeable material :cool2:
 
Ocean said:
This is also very interesting from the Observer newspaper in Liberia :-

_http://www.liberianobserver.com/security/ebola-aids-manufactured-western-pharmaceuticals-us-dod

2. EBOLA HAS A TERRIBLE HISTORY, AND TESTING HAS BEEN SECRETLY TAKING PLACE IN AFRICA

I am now reading The Hot Zone, a novel, by Richard Preston (copyrighted 1989 and 1994); it is heart-rending. The prolific and prominent writer, Steven King, is quoted as saying that the book is “One of the most horrifying things I have ever read. What a remarkable piece of work.” As a New York Times bestseller, The Hot Zone is presented as “A terrifying true story.” Terrifying, yes, because the pathological description of what was found in animals killed by the Ebola virus is what the virus has been doing to citizens of Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia in its most recent outbreak: Ebola virus destroys peoples’ internal organs and the body deteriorates rapidly after death. It softens and the tissues turn into jelly, even if it is refrigerated to keep it cold. Spontaneous liquefaction is what happens to the body of people killed by the Ebola virus! The author noted in Point 1, Dr. Horowitz, chides The Hot Zone for writing to be politically correct; I understand because his book makes every effort to be very factual. The 1976 Ebola incident in Zaire, during President Mobutu Sese Seko, was the introduction of the GMO Ebola to Africa.

It might be unrelated but I was told several years ago about a person sensitive to bee venom who died after a severe anaphylactic reaction, and soon his body liquefied such that he had to be put in plastic bags.
Now, I have tried to find out what might cause this phenomenon, and I found this article about different kind of venoms and their mechanisms:

https://www.inkling.com/read/greenfields-surgery-scientific-principles-practice/chapter-31/envenomation

as you can see, venom contains a bunch of enzymes whose action is multifaceted, and some of it target the hemolysis and some of it the destruction of cells and tissues by breaking down protein, collagen, etc, followed by invasion of body fluids into the destruction area, failure of blood clothing - thus internal hemorrhage, electrolyte imbalance, kidney failure, etc

Snake Venom

Table 31.3 Enzymes of Snake Venoms
The function of venom is to kill or immobilize prey and to aid in digestion. Venom consists of a complex array of proteins and enzymes that have historically been characterized as neurotoxins, hemotoxins, and cardiotoxins.9 The components of pit viper venom, however, affect almost every organ system; thus, labeling snake venom as a specific organ toxin is probably inaccurate.5 More than 26 different proteins and nonenzymatic peptides have been isolated from various venoms.2,5 The Crotalidae venom consists of approximately 90% water, 5 to 15 enzymes, 3 to 12 nonenzymatic proteins and peptides, and more than 6 other unidentified substances. A partial list of these enzymes is shown in Table 31.3 and includes several proteolytic enzymes, phospholipase, nucleotidase, acetylcholinesterase, and amino acid oxidase.
These low-molecular-weight peptides and polypeptides (6 to 100 kD) appear to act by damaging vascular endothelial cells. Electron microscopic analysis of tissue from human snakebite victims has demonstrated disruption of the vascular endothelium and other plasma membranes. Microangiopathic vascular injury leads to increased permeability, peripheral edema, pulmonary edema and hemorrhage, significant interstitial fluid sequestration, and hypotension. Other venom proteins appear to induce a neuromuscular blockade or coagulopathy. Procoagulant venom factors seem to dominate, primarily exerting their effect late in the clotting cascade by activating factor X or prothrombin or by directly converting fibrinogen to fibrin.10 Tissue destruction is aided by several different proteins. L-Amino acid oxidase causes extensive tissue destruction and splits fibrinogen, leading to platelet trapping and unstable clot formation, thus contributing to the genesis of disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC). Phospholipase A2 causes hydrolysis of lecithin at the C-2 position, resulting in the formation of lysolecithin. This event alters the permeability of erythrocyte membranes and muscle cell plasma membranes, leading to hemolysis and tissue edema. Hyaluronidase induces the lysis of ground substance and thereby aids in the distribution of the venom throughout body tissues.

(.....)
The more than 100,000 species of Hymenoptera consist of the well-known families of bees, wasps, and hornets but also include the fire ants, a nonwinged Hymenoptera present in the southeastern United States.61 More envenomations and deaths (approximately 40 annually) in the United States are caused by Hymenoptera stings than by snakebites, emphasizing the fact that the venom of most Hymenoptera is as toxic as the rattlesnake’s venom, the difference being the volume administered. The venom is primarily a hemolysin and neurotoxin, known for triggering anaphylactic reactions. Bee venom also contains melittin, phospholipase A2, and hyaluronidase, which when given in adequate volume can cause endothelial disruption, cell breakdown, and tissue necrosis. It is estimated that approximately 0.4% of the human population is at risk for anaphylaxis from Hymenoptera stings.62 Fortunately, most sting reactions are mild, involving dermal manifestations (e.g., hives, edema) only. The clinical effects are related both to the local toxic effects and to the anaphylactic systemic effects. The local toxic effects include significant pain, swelling, and pruritus. If a significant amount of toxin is injected, the patient may experience nausea, emesis, and muscle spasms.
Most deaths from Hymenoptera stings are a result of severe anaphylactic reaction, which can occur at any age, but is relatively more common in adults. In this reaction, a preformed immunoglobulin E antibody activates mast cells, leading to degranulation with massive histamine release and prompting laryngeal and pulmonary edema, vasodilation, and vascular collapse. The treatment for Hymenoptera bites and stings is to remove the stinger, treat the local wound with ice and possibly an enzymatic meat tenderizer, and treat the anaphylactic reactions aggressively with antihistamines (diphenhydramine, 50 to 100 mg intramuscularly or intravenously) or epinephrine (1:1,000 dilution, 0.3 to 0.5 mL intramuscularly or subcutaneously). Patients also require supplemental oxygen and intravenous fluids.

I don't know how many ways nature provides for destruction and rebuild, but there is this other hint by the C's in the October 11th, 2014 session, dealing with diseases destined to modify DNA.

(L) Well, I think that obviously "tribal" means physiological spiritual union profile, and that that may have something to do with what we were talking about at a previous session when we asked about Caesar's soul group. Physiological spiritual union profile would be what defines what tribe you belong to, but it's a spiritual tribe and not necessarily specifically physical. You can grow into it according to some criteria... “graduate” was the term used. Am I correct here about a tribal group being like a soul group? Is that an accurate way of putting it?

A: Very close.

Q: (L) Is there anything that can get me closer?

A: In some cases there is also a supersensory component.

Q: (L) What is a supersensory component?

A: Externally driven mutation.

Q: (L) Externally driven by what?

A: Most often by the occupying soul itself.

Q: (L) So are you saying that if a soul selects a body or gets a close frequency match to a body that it wants to use, that it can also modify that body for its own purposes if it needs to and if the DNA match isn't quite to its taste or purposes?

A: Yes.

Q: (Andromeda) So our souls can cause mutations?

A: Yes.

Q: (Perceval) Does that happen pre-birth?

A: No, it can happen once the soul is seated and as needed.

Q: (L) So, what are some of the processes that can effect this in a physical way?

A: Diet is one. Also "arrangement" to contract the needed sickness.

Q: (Pierre) So you contract a sickness because the soul wants to learn something and experience something, and it's through this sickness that this learning will occur?

A: No. The soul and its helpers wants to trigger DNA modification!

Q: (L) They're saying no, that it's far more pragmatic. Okay, next question... I'm never going to get to my questions that I have! [laughter] Okay, when you say, "the soul and its helpers", what the heck are the soul's helpers?

A: Tribal unit members both in the body and out.

Q: (L) So if you're a member of a tribal unit, you are in a way connected via DNA connections or signals or frequencies with your other tribal members, whether they are incarnated or not? Is that what we're saying here?

A: Pretty much; no man is an island!

Now, not everybody infected dies...are we suppose to learn something, to get transformed due to this or other ordeals? Does the lesson learnt by some affect a larger body of humanity also, as in the "Hundredth Monkey Theory?" Or are these lessons individual?

Anyway, were it not for my high sensitivity against antinutriens, and the subsequent systemic body inflammation and the grim perspective offered by standard medicine, I wouldn't be looking for a cure, I wouldn't have discovered alternative medicine, neither this site. I wouldn't have learned, discovered joy, amazement, humility and reverence watching this unbelievable and intricate design of life and of its Creator.

Thank you for everybody's contribution

Joy

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CNN interviewed Richard Preston about Ebola. He talks about if it is air-bone or not, the duration of the incubation, and if USA is ready to fight Ebola.

_http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2014/10/20/newday-preston-hotzone-today.cnn&video_referrer=
 
This is a long article from Richard Preston, the author of The Hot Zone. It is interesting but I have the impression of two things: that very soon all Africans will be vaccinated with a Ebola vaccine (with all the others ones that they receive) and that Mr. Preston is telling us the "official" story. It is a very interesting story, again to learn how official people work very well with this virus, studying it with excellent machines and a lot of infrastructure and money. Also he is a good writer, so you have the human part, the drama, the tragedy. But no critic against WHO, nor how Ebola is treated very bad by governments around the world. He believes, I think, that the solution will come with medication, vaccines.

_http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/27/ebola-wars
 
This is an information about this: Ebola symptoms are similar of the symptoms of Yellow fever. And 12 millions of Africans received the vaccines of Yellow fever just before the pandemia. What do you think?

Liberia & Sierra Leone, both primary epicenters of the supposed Ebola outbreak, were recently subject to the “largest ever Yellow Fever Immunization Program” conducted in that region – an estimated 12 million locals impacted (infected) by the compound shot.

The epidemiology of Yellow Fever also bares striking resemblance to Ebola, given the distinct characteristics & potential virulence common to each virus:

1. an incubation period lasting upwards of 1 week (‘Physical symptoms usually appear 3–6 days after’)

2. an array of flu-like symptoms during the initial stages, including (‘fever, muscle pain, particularly backache, headache, shivering, loss of appetite, and nausea or vomiting’)

3. leading to varying degrees of internal “blackish” bruising & widespread hemorrhaging (‘gastrointestinal bleeding, haematuria, skin petechiae, ecchymoses,’)

4. followed by rapid systemic deterioration, marked by Kidney failure, often leading to death (‘About 20%–50% of patients with hepato-renal failure die, usually 7–10 days after the onset of disease’)

‘Typically, the disease onset is abrupt, with fever, muscle pain, particularly backache, headache, shivering, loss of appetite, and nausea or vomiting. Congestion of the conjunctivae and face are common, as well as relative bradycardia in the presence of fever. The patient is usually viraemic during this period, which lasts for approximately 3–6 days.

In approximately 15% of infected persons, the illness recurs in more severe form after a brief remission of 2–24 hours.11 Symptoms include fever, nausea, vomiting, epigastric pain, jaundice, renal insufficiency, and cardiovascular instability. A bleeding diathesis can occur causing gastrointestinal bleeding, haematuria, skin petechiae, ecchymoses, epistaxis, and bleeding from the gums and needle-puncture sites.

Physical findings include scleral and dermal jaundice, haemorrhages at different sites and epigastric tenderness without hepatic enlargement. The haemorrhagic manifestations are caused by reduced synthesis of clotting factors as well as by a consumptive coagulopathy.

About 20%–50% of patients with hepato-renal failure die, usually 7–10 days after the onset of disease. Patients surviving YF may experience prolonged weakness and fatigue, but healing of the liver and kidney injuries is usually complete.‘ Vaccines and vaccination against yellow fever/WHO Position Paper – June 2011

‘Yellow fever vaccine-associated viscerotropic disease (YEL-AVD) is a rare and serious adverse event associated with administration of the yellow fever vaccine. YEL-AVD is an illness similar to wild-type yellow fever, in which the vaccine virus proliferates in multiple organs, causing multiple organ dysfunction syndrome or multiorgan failure and death in at least 60% of cases. Initial symptoms of YEL-AVD are nonspecific and can include the following: fever, malaise, headache, myalgia, vomiting, and diarrhea. More severe cases can progress to hepatic, renal, or respiratory insufficiency or failure; hypotension; thrombocytopenia; and coagulopathy (inability to regulate clotting causing massive hemorrhaging).‘ CDC – History, Epidemiology, and Vaccination Information

‘Yellow fever vaccine-associated viscerotropic disease (YEL-AVD) is clinically indistinguishable from wild-type yellow fever illness. Most YEL-AVD reports describe patients with fever and multiple organ system failure, and often death (17 deaths/29 cases worldwide).‘ The American Journal of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene

No Government is going to force another toxic, experimental Vaccine & medley of debilitating Drugs on our communities to combat a clearly manufactured Ebola crisis...not on my watch. We've been here before. History is predictably repeating itself…again.

Coming soon - VRM: The Ebola Report

_http://nblo.gs/10MnW0
 
loreta said:
This is a long article from Richard Preston, the author of The Hot Zone. It is interesting but I have the impression of two things: that very soon all Africans will be vaccinated with a Ebola vaccine (with all the others ones that they receive) and that Mr. Preston is telling us the "official" story. It is a very interesting story, again to learn how official people work very well with this virus, studying it with excellent machines and a lot of infrastructure and money. Also he is a good writer, so you have the human part, the drama, the tragedy. But no critic against WHO, nor how Ebola is treated very bad by governments around the world. He believes, I think, that the solution will come with medication, vaccines.

_http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/27/ebola-wars

Well, he was right- here come the vaccines:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canadian-experimental-ebola-vaccine-vials-arrive-in-geneva-1.2808940

The first 250 vials of Canada's experimental Ebola vaccine arrived in Geneva on Wednesday for clinical trials that could start next month.

The federal government said it would provide 800 vials of the vaccine, called rVSV-EBOV, in August.

It is one of two lead vaccines that the World Health Organization flagged for potential use for the outbreak in West Africa.

The UN health agency said Wednesday that a total of 9,936 cases of Ebola virus disease have been reported in five affected countries up to the end of Oct. 19, although there is widespread under-reporting in Liberia. A total of 4,877 deaths have been reported.

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Dr. Marie Paule Kieny, an assistant director general for the UN health agency, acknowledged Tuesday that many "ifs"remain about the experimental vaccines.

The first human trials of the Canadian vaccine began in Bethesda, Md., last week. Four more, in Germany, Switzerland, Gabon and Kenya, are expected to start in the next few weeks.

Kieny said that about 250 people will be enrolled in these Phase 1 trials that are designed to show whether a vaccine is safe to use in people and what protective dose is needed.

The CEO of the company that holds the licence for the Canadian-made Ebola vaccine said a batch is nearly ready and it is working with two manufacturers in Europe to produce more.

The company expects to have between 60,000 and 70,000 vials of VSV-EBOV by the end of the year, Dr. Charles Link,
CEO and chief scientific officer of NewLink Genetics, of Ames, Iowa, said.

"We couldn't go any faster without really doing things dangerously," Link told the Canadian Press.

"I don't think humanity has ever tried to do something this complex, to be quite honest."

WHO plans to start large-scale vaccine trials in West Africa in January 2015.

The other candidate vaccine, by British drugmaker GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) and the U.S. National Institutes of Health, is known as cAd3-ZEBOV. It is from a modified chimpanzee cold virus and an Ebola protein. It is in clinical trials now in Britain and in Mali.


State and local health officials in the U.S. will check travellers from Ebola-affected West African countries of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone daily for temperature for a 21-day period. (Abbas Dulleh/ Associated Press)

Elsewhere on Wednesday, WHO started its third emergency committee meeting to evaluate the Ebola outbreak and its response. The one-day meeting is expected to assess whether current recommendations need to be updated following infections in health-care workers who were exposed in Spain and the U.S.

In the U.S., the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday announced new measures to monitor for Ebola anyone entering the United States from Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea for a 21-day period.

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Under the measures starting Monday, travellers from the three West African countries will be expected to check in with health officials every day and report their temperatures and any Ebola symptoms throughout the 21-day period, the CDC said.

The director of CDC said the program will cover visitors as well as aid workers, journalists and other Americans returning from Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea.

The program will start in six states: New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, New Jersey and Georgia.

"The bottom line is that we have to keep our guard against Ebola," CDC Director Tom Frieden said.

Travellers from those countries will be given information cards and a thermometer and be required to make daily check-ins with state or local health officials to report their status. He said the check-ins could be in person, by telephone, Skype or Facetime or through employers — CDC was consulting with the state and local officials to help them work that out.

Affected travellers would be required to report any travel plans. Frieden said if they don't cooperate, they would be immediately called in.

Elsewhere in the U.S., a video journalist has recovered from Ebola and hospital officials in Omaha say he's been released.

Nebraska Medical Center officials say Ashoka Mukpo was released around 9 a.m. Wednesday from the hospital's biocontainment unit. In a statement read at a news conference later, Mukpo said: "Today is a joyful day."

Mukpo, of Providence, Rhode Island, contracted the virus while working in Liberia as a freelance cameraman for NBC and other media outlets.

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Today I went to the hospital for a little intervention and I saw their publicity for the flu vaccination. This is shameful! You can see the relation, subliminal relation, between Flu and Ebola in those pictures: the mask and the glasses! This is incredible. So this publicity says that the only security to be safe are vaccines.

:O :curse:
 

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Thank you loreta for the update! :)

It's interesting because for a while I was thinking if the virus itself was man made, kind a biological weapon and I think no coincidence the whole
epidemic started in Africa, like AIDS.
Who knows they used it for experimental purposes :evil: and the virus mutations occurred naturally, I don't know.
One thing for sure: Big Pharma want's make money out of this disaster, they have billions and billions of dollars but they want MORE!
:curse:

loreta said:
Today I went to the hospital for a little intervention and I saw their publicity for the flu vaccination. This is shameful! You can see the relation, subliminal relation, between Flu and Ebola in those pictures: the mask and the glasses! This is incredible. So this publicity says that the only security to be safe are vaccines.

:O :curse:

I just talk to my friend yesterday and he is 90 years old, went through WWII, a survivor literally(!) and he is smart, he can read between the lines, takes everything that comes from MSM with a grain of salt , and was skeptical about Ebola.
He has a great sense recognizing fascism and has been pointing out for many years how America transformed to a Nazi state.
Kind a like the author of "Defying Hitler", Sebastian Haffner.

We talked about nefarious intents of ptb, nothing happens by accident and vaccines.
I told him there is a big difference between natural immunization and vaccines.
Then he said: "I just got the flu shot." :headbash:
 
I came across this site on twitter. Haven't gone through enough of it to make a good judgement as to whether or not it's on solid ground, but it does appear they are attempting to cover the issue objectively and provide as much information as possible:

http://www.eboladeeply.org/
 
The sessions continue to be the one, and only source of reality :rockon:

From San Francsico UCSF California
Source _http://sfist.com/2014/10/29/nurses_warn_that_ucsf_isnt_ready_fo.php

Just days after the California Department of Health designated UCSF hospitals as Ebola centers, nurses at the hospital are saying that they're not ready for an outbreak after all.

At a demonstration (_https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2014/10/28/18763468.php) Tuesday, UCSF nurses argued that they haven't been trained to deal with the disease, that UCSF lacks the facilities or the staff to care for Ebola-afflicted patients, and that they only heard that they'd be the ones to treat SF's Ebola cases in the media, not from their bosses at the hospital.

According to an SF Examiner report from earlier this week, UCSF is spending "several hundred thousand dollars" to prepare for the deadly disease, including construction of an isolation room. The hospital is also seeking at least 30 volunteers to treat patients, in addition to over "70 doctors, nurses, respiratory therapists and laboratory scientists" who've already volunteered to help any Ebola patients

However, Erin Carrera, nurse at UCSF for the last 12 years, says that the hospital lacks the "equipment, training or staff to care for even one Ebola patient if they are to come in today," reports the Examiner.

"The only training or preparation they’ve " reports KCBS and "not one nurse has been given a personal protective suit or even a protocol for screening patients."

“We were blown away on Friday to hear announced that we are going to be an Ebola center and that we are ready to take any Ebola cases to come in the State of California," Carrera said Tuesday.

"We’re not ready. We’re hearing the same from our colleagues across the UC’s. It’s an outrage that they’ve put that out in the public that we’re ready when we’re not. We need personal protective equipment. We need training. We have received none of that."

At present, there has not been a single case of Ebola reported in the state of California. According to an announcement issued today by California public health director Dr. Ron Chapman, anyone who arrives in California from an Ebola-affected area and who's had contact with an infected person will be quarantined for 21 days.

“This order will allow local health officers to determine, for those coming into California, who is most at risk for developing this disease," Chapman said in a statement.

The quarantine, Chapman said, is expected "to contain any potential spread of the disease by responding to those risks appropriately."
Contact the author of this article or _email tips@sfist.com with further aqappropriately."

Video
Listen to the song, and dance of the administration of UCFS............ concerning communications of addressing the issues of protocols.
We Are Not Prepared For Ebola! NNU CNA UCSF Nurses Demand Mandatory Protocols
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIIEnJuMhl4#t=586
Ajoutée le 28 oct. 2014
Nurses who are members of the NNU CNA at the University of California Medical Center in San Francisco spoke out about their concerns on October 28, 2014. They called on Governor Brown, Cal-OSHA and President Obama to institute mandatory protocols for the protection of nurses, hospital staff, patients and the public. Associate Medical Officers For UCSF Dr. Adrienne Green opposed mandatory protocols and said the hospital could not train all the nurses who have contact with patients. She also said that the hospital which has been training for many months has set up a Ebola unit but has not hired any new staff for these additional tasks.
Production of Labor Video Project _www.laborvideo.org
 

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