Echos from France

Ellipse

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
I often see news from France reflecting the more global news unless this is the opposite. The fact is that Laura and some of us live here and we need knowledge of our surrounding so I think it's important and I will try to translate those only french news.

Today there was a worrying article in "Libération" :

fr:
Le plan secret pour la justice

C'est un plan secret, dévoilé aujourd'hui par le Syndicat de la magistrature (SM), documents à l'appui.

En cas de pandémie grippale, le gouvernement envisage, en catimini, de bouleverser les règles de fonctionnement de l'institution judiciaire.

Juge unique, huis clos, pas de débat contradictoire, prolongation des détentions provisoires...

La justice grippée rime avec militarisée.

Dans une lettre ouverte à la Garde des Sceaux, Michèle Alliot ­Marie, communiquée en exclusivité à Libéra­tion' le Syndicat dénonce «la volonté de créer une justice d'exception par ordonnances gouvernementales », et «demande expressément » à la ministre «de renoncer à la mise en œuvre d'un tel dispositif liberticide».



Le SM révèle que «des projets de textes modifiant l'organisation et le fonctfonnement de la jus­tice ont été transmis dans le plus grand secret aux chefs de cour en juillet 2009» - ainsi qu'aux procureurs généraux.

Le premier document communiqué est un texte permettant au gouvernement « d'adapter la procédure pénale » par « voie d'ordonnance en cas de pandémie ».

Le se­cond est le projet d'ordonnance lui-même, «portant adaptation des règles de procédure pé­nale et d'organisation judiciaire en cas de crise sanitaire».

Il prévoit «de confier toutes les audiences pénales - quelle que soit la nature du délit - à un seul magistrat», et ce, «en violation du principe de collégialité», soulignent les ma­gistrats.

Il envisage aussi «de remettre en cause 'la publicité des débats, en prévoyant la possibilité de généraliser le huis clos».

Le plan pandémie de la justice enverra aussi les mineurs devant le tribunal correctionnel, contredisant 'les «principes constitutionnels et internationaux».

Mais l'atteinte aux droits des justiciables est sans précédent aussi pour les gardés à vue et les détenus.

Il est prévu de différer la possibilité de «s'entretenir avec un avocat à la 24e heure» - plutôt qu'au début de la garde à vue -, et «de prolonger les délais de détention provisoire de 4 à 6 mois sans audience ni débat devant le juge des libertés et de la détention qui statuerait sur dossier».

En outre, «tous les délais de prescription» seraient suspendus.

«Ces projets d'ordonnance sont révoltants, s'indigne Em­manuelle Perreux, la présidente du SM. Ce sont des mesures qui relèvent de l'Etat d'exception.»

Le SM souligne «la disproportion manifeste entre une situation de pandémie grippale et la gravité des mesures envisagées» .

La méthode est aussi critiquée par le SM, qui déplore «l'absence de dialogue» et «l'infantilisation des personnels».

Les instances de con­certation ad hoc du ministère - le comité d'hy­giène et de sécurité, et le comité technique paritaire - n'ont en effet pas été consultées.

KARLLASKE

en:
The secret plan for the justice

It is a secret plan, unveiled today by the Union of the judiciary (SM), documents to the support.

In case of influenzal pandemic, the government considers, on the sly, to upset the rules of working of the judicial institution.

Unique judge, enclosed door, not of contradictory debate, overtime of the temporary detentions...

The cold justice rhymes with militarized.

In a letter opened to the Minister of Justice, Michèle Alliot ­ Marie, communicated in exclusive rights in Libération' the Union denounces will to create a justice of exception by governmental orders ", and "demand expressly" to the minister "to give up the implementation of a such liberticide plan."


The SM reveals that projects of texts modifying the organization and the fonctfonnement of the justice have been transmitted in the biggest secret to the chiefs of court in July 2009" - as well as to the attorneys general.

The first document communiqué is a text allowing the government" to adapt the penal procedure "by" way of order in case of pandemic ".

The second is the project of order himself, "carrying adaptation of the rules of procedure pénale and judicial organization in case of sanitary crisis."

It foresees to confide all penal audiences - whatever is the nature of the offense - to only one magistrate", and that, "in violation of the collegial administration" principle, underlines the magistrates.

It also considers putting back in reason 'the advertisement of proceedings, while foreseeing the possibility to generalize the enclosed door."

The plan pandemic of the justice will also send the miners before the criminal court, contradicting the "constitutional and international" principles.

But the attack to the rights of the justiciables is also without precedent for kept them to view and the convicts.
It is foreseen to defer the possibility to converse with a lawyer at the 24th hour" - rather than au beginning of the close watch -, and "to prolong the delays of temporary detention of 4 to 6 months without audience nor debate before the judge of the liberties and the detention who would enact on file."

Besides, "all delays of prescription" would be suspended.

"These projects of order are revolting, be indignant Emmanuelle Perreux, the chairwoman of the SM.

These are the measures that raise from the State of exception."The SM underlines "the manifest disproportion between a situation of influenzal pandemic and the gravity of the measures considered."

The method is also criticized by the SM, that deplores "the absence of dialogue" and "the infantilisation of the staffs."

The processes of ad hoc dialogue of the ministry - the committee of hygiene and security, and the equal technical committee - have not been consulted indeed.
 
Really not surprising for SOTT reader, is it? We could see this coming from far, couldn't we? And I think this will not be the last attempt they will make :evil:
 
Hi Ellipse

I don't live in France anymore, but my parents do it's a worrying article for everybody living in France

Thanks for the post Ellipse
 
9/11 on the French TV

September 15, big event on the French TV.

For the first time, the question "Should we debate about 9/11, and is it interesting ?" is asked.
Mathieu Kassovitz, a well know film-maker answer "Yes" and he isn't shut up... only accused to be anti-semitic but he can answer.

Sequence : _http://www.reopen911.info/News/2009/09/16/mathieu-kassovitz-et-le-11-septembre-il-y-a-beaucoup-de-choses-a-questionner-sur-cette-journee/
Original TV show : http://ce-soir-ou-jamais.france3.fr/?page=emission&id_rubrique=746
 
Re: 9/11 on the French TV

Ellipse said:
September 15, big event on the French TV.

For the first time, the question "Should we debate about 9/11, and is it interesting ?" is asked.
A well know film-maker answer "Yes" and isn't shut up... only accused to be anti-semitic but he can answer.

_http://www.reopen911.info/News/2009/09/16/mathieu-kassovitz-et-le-11-septembre-il-y-a-beaucoup-de-choses-a-questionner-sur-cette-journee/
Original TV show : http://ce-soir-ou-jamais.france3.fr/?page=emission&id_rubrique=746

The constant comparison between people who dare to ask questions on 911 and holocaust deniers is beginning to get tiresome, to put it mildly. (BTW, Kassovitz is jewish. Another self-hating Jew, I guess :cool2:)
I think Kassovitz dealt with it well overall, though he obviously was very cautious and tried not to rock the boat too much.
I found the other guests totally (but predictably) pathetic. It reminds me of the old worn-out debate between UFO researchers and die-hard skeptics / so-called "debunkers".
 
September 10, continuation of the Kassovitz affair:

Translation from http://www.agoravox.tv/article.php3?id_article=23877 :

The film-maker confirms us that he attacks in justice L’Express, France Info, France5 and Le Journal du Dimanche, all these medias having, according him, defamed him, while calling it revisionist, of denialer (fr: négationniste), while comparing him with Faurisson or Goebbels, or even while making a photo mounting with his head and the one of Hitler.
 
29/11/09 The Climategate is mentioned at the french TV. Of course the person is call a plotter.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbbabi_climategate-zemmour-adepte-de-la-th_news
 
Ellipse said:
29/11/09 The Climategate is mentioned at the french TV. Of course the person is call a plotter.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbbabi_climategate-zemmour-adepte-de-la-th_news

Personally, I would cast doubts about Zemmour's interest in this.
At first it would seem to be the same dynamic when someone is contesting the consensus but as it happened during Ruckier's show I am wondering if this wasn't done exactly to discredit even more the Climategate.
It all seems too purposeful imho.
 
I note that when the global warming is challenged, the response is oriented on the man made pollution. It is as if the link between those two problems was obvious. So, this is not really possible to discuss the subject without digressing.
 
@TigerSoap
I think, mentioning the climatgate is what matters.

@Heaalih
Absolutely. I notice this too each time I challenge someone on the global warning.
 
I heard this, this morning during the radio news :

Jars homemade fruit and vegetables at every meal, meat, but not too much, never McDonalds or sweets ... These are now the tenets of a healthy and balanced diet for your children. "Well, you've got it all wrong," says Professor Patrick TOUNIAN shock in a book which was just released and will undermine the beliefs of many parents confident of doing well by applying these injunctions nutritional released by the medical profession.
[...]
"No study on the effects of fruit and vegetables has been conducted on children," explains Professor TOUNIAN.
Yes to McDonalds and pizza. According to the specialist, the principal is to offer all children to prevent deficiencies.

I let you imagine the damages of such words. :cry:
 
If you want to have a taste of the strike, some videos :
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfa7hn_les-jeunes-sont-chauds_new
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmGriqS3uro (Nîmes)
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfanu2_greve-et-manifestation-pour-la-defe_news (Lille)

Riots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewCYNgGpwyc (Lyon)

Yesterday :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBpAEhH2Y3I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEfipcmXtAc (Paris)

CGT mean Confédération Générale du Travail (French trade union). They always have a lot of flags but most people you can see, do not belong to them in fact.

The map give an idea where are the actions.
 

Attachments

  • strike_map2.jpg
    strike_map2.jpg
    24.2 KB · Views: 272
Nice big pictures from the strike and, important, well commented : http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/10/france_on_strike.html
 
Oil from CO2 + plankton + sun + water

The video is from the French TV on 1 February 2011. Seem to be a real serious project. The question is, is the energetic balance positive ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c7rXUa4zAx4
 
Great victory for freedom! Journalist Denis Robert win trial against Clearstream

After 8 years of battle, French cassation court say Denis Robert have never libeling Clearstream so his books can be published again.

Clearstream is the custody and settlement division of Deutsche Börse, based in Luxembourg. Denis Robert demonstrate how Clearstream is used to launder money from majors world banks.

In 2001, co-authors Denis Robert and Ernest Backes released a book called "Révélation$," followed by Robert's "La Boîte Noire," describing what has been named the "greatest financial scandal in the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg."[7] The little publicity their works received came only in the French media, and even there publicity was minimal. In a number of interviews, Denis Robert accused "Le Monde" of deliberately suppressing articles and reviews of his book, suggesting that financial links between "Le Monde" and Deutsche Börse (which now owns 100% of Clearstream's shares) were the cause of this censorship. Denis Robert was found guilty of libel and sentenced altogether 8 times by the French courts for describing Clearstream as a huge money laundering and tax evasion machine, used by major banks, shell companies, and organized crime all over the world. (Paris Court of Appeal, 16, October 2008, 18 December 2008, Tribunal correctionnel de Bordeaux, June 2008)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearstream


French article :
http://www.rue89.com/2011/02/08/denis-robert-bat-clearstream-la-fin-dune-vraie-censure-189458
 
Back
Top Bottom