Election Results in Romania Annulled due to Tiktok

[axj]

It is quite astounding that a EU country annuls election results due to an alleged campaign on Tiktok and yet nobody in Europe or elsewhere seems to care. Is there any resistance to this in Romania?

From a recent SOTT article:

Now on the heels of the Romanian electoral 'blip', naturally the only calls being made are for more censorship, with several prominent European figures not only militating for 'action' against social media, but openly condoning the whimsical abrogation of elections based on hearsay. A sitting member of the European Parliament:

Note the blasé fashion with which the cancellation of a presidential election is given full pass, as if it's not something that has shaken the very bedrock of political trust and the social compact with society. The precedent set is that any election can henceforth be entirely liquidated based mere circumstantial rumors of "Russian interference". Most haven't even bothered to consider that 'social media interference' is a fallacious slippery slope to begin with:

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It also raises the question whether this blatant disregard for appearances is due to potential plans to expand the Ukranian war to Romania and the rest of Europe.

 

[Ina]

For the record:
The Presidential elections, before the second round, 8th Dec, were canceled altogether and postponed with three months. This was done by the use of the Justice system.
The Romanian people elected the candidate you mention in the first round, and the majority of votes that distanced the candidate, came from the diaspora.
The Candidate was not known politically, was not affiliated to any political party, and made his electoral campaign on TikTok. If you want more information, watch YouTube, Sebastian Sas channel coverage of the issue and events.

 

[axj]

This was done by the use of the Justice system.

The issue here is that the court anulled presidential election results because of a supposed Russian disinformation campaign on Tiktok. This is unprecedented and frankly a ridiculous justification, yet nobody seems to care.

 

[Ina]

The issue here is that the court anulled presidential election results because of a supposed Russian disinformation campaign on Tiktok. This is unprecedented and frankly a ridiculous justification, yet nobody seems to care.

This was done because of the candidate being considered 'suspect' by the authorities. Forget about TikTok and think for a minute that you are a Romanian citizen living in Romania and your next president of the country is a virtually unknown Romanian person that is actually elected due to your fellow Romanians living abroad.

 

[Ina]

The current situation in Romania is close to political crisis, as it (the country) has a newly elected Parliament, but the current Presidential mandate expires on the 21st Dec.
It is a developing situation, a wait and see scenario unless one lives in the country and is involved in marches and rallies.

 

[T.C.]

I know quite a few Romanians. They were all forced to leave their homeland due to government corruption and bureaucracy, along with hundreds of thousands of others. It’s very difficult to find work there and even if you do it doesn’t pay a living wage. I was told that a bank manager in Romania earns less than the UK minimum wage.

So it’s understandable that all those who were forced to leave the country they love would, from afar, vote for ‘change’.

 

[Ina]

I know quite a few Romanians. They were all forced to leave their homeland due to government corruption and bureaucracy, along with hundreds of thousands of others. It’s very difficult to find work there and even if you do it doesn’t pay a living wage. I was told that a bank manager in Romania earns less than the UK minimum wage.

So it’s understandable that all those who were forced to leave the country they love would, from afar, vote for ‘change’.

I am one of them. I know very well what you are talking about and much more, however, the case in point here is about a very unusual election saga, from which we only saw the first act.

 

[axj]

This was done because of the candidate being considered 'suspect' by the authorities.

It is not the job of "authorities" to cancel election results if they do not like a candidate or find him suspect.

Forget about TikTok and think for a minute that you are a Romanian citizen living in Romania and your next president of the country is a virtually unknown Romanian person that is actually elected due to your fellow Romanians living abroad.

The "Russian campaign on Tiktok" is actually the official reason given by the court for anulling the presidential election results. Why do you want to forget about that?

And the justification that this is okay because Romanians abroad voted wrong makes no sense either. As long as they are Romanian citizens they can vote.

 

[Ina]

It is not the job of "authorities" to cancel election results if they do not like a candidate or find him suspect.


The "Russian campaign on Tiktok" is actually the official reason given by the court for anulling the presidential election results. Why do you want to forget about that?

And the justification that this is okay because Romanians abroad voted wrong makes no sense either. As long as they are Romanian citizens they can vote.

Do you agree that we have different points of view? Do you agree that none of us has the full information? Do you agree that a richer discussion and analysis can be made at a later stage with more constructive conclusions?
If to all of the above the answer is Yes, I thank you. For the moment we agree that we do not see the same political protuberances, and that's that.

 

[Deneb]

I know quite a few Romanians. They were all forced to leave their homeland due to government corruption and bureaucracy, along with hundreds of thousands of others. It’s very difficult to find work there and even if you do it doesn’t pay a living wage. I was told that a bank manager in Romania earns less than the UK minimum wage.

So it’s understandable that all those who were forced to leave the country they love would, from afar, vote for ‘change’.

people who have left country in 90ties keep believing their country continues in 90ties
this is acute case of emigrant syndrome, inability to update their info about home country and irrational hate caused by in reality love and longing after home
simple search brings us to 800$ minimum wage and 1800$ on average in romania today

 

[T.C.]

simple search brings us to 800$ minimum wage and 1800$ on average in romania today

This site says starting salary for a bank manager in Bucharest (the capital city, so one would assume the highest salary example in the country) is 110,834 RON, which is just over 18k GBP, which is less than minimum wage here. So while my friends may be nostalgic for a stronger Romania, the one who told me that about bank managers wasn't exaggerating.

 

[axj]

Do you agree that we have different points of view? Do you agree that none of us has the full information? Do you agree that a richer discussion and analysis can be made at a later stage with more constructive conclusions?

The only disagreement I see is you justifying this apalling and unprecedented decision by the court and I do not understand why. It is most likely unconstitutional and the involved judges should be impeached.

I don't know what information you expect to get at a later stage, it is pretty clear what happened. And I also have my doubts about the claim that he was voted for primarily by Romanians living abroad. It sounds like a justification to make Romanians accept this travesty. Just like in the US and elsewhere, anything can be claimed about mail-in votes.