Elon Musk: Tech Genius! Green Warrior! Biz King! Good Oligarch?

Elon is known for his awkwardish moves when speaking in front of a crowd, which has made into memes earlier. He's not very tuned into his body, it seems, at least on those situations. With the current programming it's not a surprise that the "Trump/Elon/Whoever I dislike is literally Hitler" -folks are going frenzy with this one on social media. Good example of pattern recognition running amok, fueled by MSM and political/social climate, IMO.
 
He was clearly just trying to say thank you and expressing heartfelt gratitude for all that everyone did to get to that moment.

As for whether he can be a vector of attack or be influenced by higher forces, we already knew this because of what he was saying before and what happened after his visit to Israel. This most recent gesticulatory gaffe of his means nothing and gives no new insights.
 
Well, that's not very clever of him. If I want to say thank you from the bottom of my heart, I'm not going to make this kind of very connoted gesture with the palm downwards and a such grin.
The nazi salute is not as lateral and it stands a longer time. Here, his hand is first on his heart: he sends his joy and congratulates from the bottom of his heart. His exaltation is accompanied with his thanks to the audience. He says: I just want to say thank you for making it happen. Thank you [he sends the thanks at this moment, with his hand on his heart, in that gesture of sending from his heart]. My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the futur of civilisation is assured.

His motivated joy, heightened tenfold by the atmosphere of the inauguration and the prospect of the MAGA project, and also the excitement of being an active participant in it, naturally gives a determined movement of his arm, and that grin. There is a word in french, I ignore how to translate it in english, meaning a determined force, brut but positive : de la hargne à vaincre.
Then he turns and salutes the picture behind him, with stars, representing the Make America great again project.

Yeah but precisely, doesn't his symptom make him easy prey from external influences? We know that madness and genius can go hand in hand and the limit can be thin.
No, since it's not the nazi salute.
External influence? Who is not influenced on this planet, except a few exceptional people?
Sure Elon is influenceable, like many others, but his determination, his hargne has nothing to do with his Asperger sd.
 
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There's this hysteria whenever anyone's hand goes into the "red zone" for any reason. It's actually so stupid and unreasonable that everyone should be paranoid about "accidentally" approximating a nazi salute in any way at all times because god forbid the scizoid "pattern recognition run amock" group will accuse you of something. You better bend that elbow, or do a wave, or make sure your wrist is bent at least this much at all times! Unless someone is an actual neo-nazi (and there would be plenty of indications), people need to stop the insanity. And we all know an actual intentional nazi salute when we see it, but a still picture of a wave can make anything look like anything.

It's also pretty annoying that nazis somehow appropriated the entire 90 degree area for your hand forever and ever. I can't wait til there's a fascist leader who makes sitting down on a chair their official salute so no one can ever sit down again.
 
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Case in point - there's tons of actual Nazis in Ukraine who don't get caught on camera doing the salute. So the left, obsessed with superficiality only, will say they're not Nazis. Me, on the other hand, I lived my whole life not being a Nazi, and I reached for a cup in the cupboard one day and someone snapped a picture and I magically became a Nazi from that point on. Yes you can literally become a Nazi if your hand enters the "red zone" and you will have an urge to start buying German WWII memorabilia immediately after. It's absurd but that's apparently the logic.
 
Elon is known for his awkwardish moves when speaking in front of a crowd, which has made into memes earlier. He's not very tuned into his body, it seems, at least on those situations. With the current programming it's not a surprise that the "Trump/Elon/Whoever I dislike is literally Hitler" -folks are going frenzy with this one on social media. Good example of pattern recognition running amok, fueled by MSM and political/social climate, IMO.
Pattern recognition running amok? Look at those guys in the below video. This is exactly the same gesture:

Neo-Nazi Groups Hold Demonstrations In Orlando, FL on September 2, 2023:

And this one:

This gesture is extremely loaded and everyone know this. If Musk does not, we have another problem.

He was clearly just trying to say thank you and expressing heartfelt gratitude for all that everyone did to get to that moment.

As for whether he can be a vector of attack or be influenced by higher forces, we already knew this because of what he was saying before and what happened after his visit to Israel. This most recent gesticulatory gaffe of his means nothing and gives no new insights.
Not clear at all, otherwise there would be no controversy. Couldn't he just do a few dance steps or make the heart sign with his hands? Why choose such a highly symbolic gesture when you're the centre of media attention? He knows it's bound to cause controversy.

The nazi salute is not as lateral and it stands a longer time. Here, his hand is first on his heart: he sends his joy and congratulates from the bottom of his heart. His exaltation is accompanied with his thanks to the audience. He says: I just want to say thank you for making it happen. Thank you [he sends the thanks at this moment, with his hand on his heart, in that gesture of sending from his heart]. My heart goes out to you. It is thanks to you that the futur of civilisation is assured.

His motivated joy, heightened tenfold by the atmosphere of the inauguration and the prospect of the MAGA project, and also the excitement of being an active participant in it, naturally gives a determined movement of his arm, and that grin. There is a word in french, I ignore how to translate it in english, meaning a determined force, brut but positive : de la hargne à vaincre.
Then he turns and salutes the picture behind him, with stars, representing the Make America great again project.
I see no difference with the videos I posted above. And there's others mean to express exaltation/fight, why to choose precisely this one?

No, since it's not the nazi salute.
External influence? Who is not influenced on this planet, except a few exceptional people?
Sure Elon is influenceable, like many others, but his determination, his hargne has nothing to do with his Asperger sd.
I don't buy it. Perhaps his brain short-circuit but it is. The Nazi salute is not just the outstretched arm, it's the gestures used to extend it. He can say whatever words he wants on it, but it doesn't change a thing. There were a thousand other things he could have done to express his gratitude. Why introduce such ambiguity, and in front of the world's cameras? Personally I think there's a real problem.

Musk is not an ordinary person. He have a great power. So if STS forces can easily go through him and so influence him, the consequences can be problematic.

There's this hysteria whenever anyone's hand goes into the "red zone" for any reason. It's actually so stupid and unreasonable that everyone should be paranoid about "accidentally" approximating a nazi salute in any way at all times because god forbid the scizoid "pattern recognition run amock" group will accuse you of something. You better bend that elbow, or do a wave, or make sure your wrist is bent at least this much at all times! Unless someone is an actual neo-nazi (and there would be plenty of indications), people need to stop the insanity. And we all know an actual intentional nazi salute when we see it, but a still picture of a wave can make anything look like anything.

It's also pretty annoying that nazis somehow appropriated the entire 90 degree area for your hand forever and ever. I can't wait til there's a fascist leader who makes sitting down on a chair their official salute so no one can ever sit down again.
It's more subtle than that. You can agree with only parts of an ideology or have something in you which resonate with it without going at full throttle.

Case in point - there's tons of actual Nazis in Ukraine who don't get caught on camera doing the salute. So the left, obsessed with superficiality only, will say they're not Nazis. Me, on the other hand, I lived my whole life not being a Nazi, and I reached for a cup in the cupboard one day and someone snapped a picture and I magically became a Nazi from that point on. Yes you can literally become a Nazi if your hand enters the "red zone" and you will have an urge to start buying German WWII memorabilia immediately after. It's absurd but that's apparently the logic.
With great power come great responsibility. The message which is delivered in front of the world's cameras and so how it can be interpreted by millions of persons is important. Musk was not caught by surprise.
 
Nazi or not nazi salute is immaterial if he's got zionist and deep-state support. The problem with these distractions is that they distract from any eventual criticisms of real problems and dubious connections. Even if Musk is anti-woke because of personal issues (would he be anti-woke if that problem didn't exist?), he's still a technocrat working with and for the military-industrial complex. So if anything, some things can be commendable, but his actions are nonetheless to be scrutinized.
 
Pattern recognition running amok? Look at those guys in the below video. This is exactly the same gesture:
Not exactly the same gesture, it does'nt go towards an audience, neither in a similar ambiance . What do they say while doing that gesture? What is the context? What their chief said just before and they respond by the salute?

Not clear at all, otherwise there would be no controversy. Couldn't he just do a few dance steps or make the heart sign with his hands? Why choose such a highly symbolic gesture when you're the centre of media attention? He knows it's bound to cause controversy.
Controversy is easily manufactured by media.

Couldn't he just do a few dance steps or make the heart sign with his hands? He choose a gesture sending his heart. Why do you want people to express their emotion or gratefullness the way that would please to you?
I see no difference with the videos I posted above. And there's others mean to express exaltation/fight, why to choose precisely this one?
Why precisely this one? Because it's spontaneous. If you look the full video, just before he comes to his speech, he sort of dances and expresses a high joy. The whole thing is so natural for a human being. It doesn't seem to be something calculated.
With great power come great responsibility. The message which is delivered in front of the world's cameras and so how it can be interpreted by millions of persons is important. Musk was not caught by surprise.
Unfortunately there is also the lack of thinking out of the box, for the wide majority of people.
If the media didn't cry wolf, this innocent expression from Musk would not get such an attention.

To finish, I think you'll benefit from this video by Candace.


or this one, shorter:

Enjoy!
 
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Pattern recognition running amok? Look at those guys in the below video. This is exactly the same gesture:
"Running amok" part is when people are deducing from his hand gesture that he must be a Nazi, that it was intentional Sieg Heil salute (thus conveying his ideology or other "evil intentions").

If you see someone waving their hand in the street to his friend while saying "my heart goes to you", and then witness some crazy person starting to accuse him of being a National Socialist because his hand was in a certain angle, should he be held accountable for not taking into consideration that crazy person?

In normal times where media wouldn't feed the hysteria, some people would have just chuckled a bit that their mind actually made that association, just like it could be made from the pictures of zillion other politicians and public figures giving speech while having their hand raised in a certain angle, or when some random person in the street waves to his friend.

There's plenty to criticize Musk for, but as said, this is just a distraction and social hysteria in action.
 
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There's plenty to criticize Musk for, but as said, this is just a distraction and social hysteria in action.
Well, one possibility I see is that Musk did this "salute" - consciously or not - to provoke fears on the left of a nazi takeover under Trump. Maybe it was a subtle 'nudge' in his subconscious by STS forces to do it and he may not consciously know why he did it.

More fear and conflict is always "good" for STS, more to feed on.
 
Mea culpa Joe, mea culpa.

I admit that I have not watch the full context.
View attachment 105218 Sorry if I made noise. I stand chastised.
A few years ago I made the same kind of misinterpretation, I got reprimanded, I apologized and I learned not to judge a situation too quickly. That's how we learn to be people a little more... adults? This is a school here, we are here to learn and so it is normal and even necessary to make mistakes in order to see things more clearly.
 
Nazi or not nazi salute is immaterial if he's got zionist and deep-state support. The problem with these distractions is that they distract from any eventual criticisms of real problems and dubious connections. Even if Musk is anti-woke because of personal issues (would he be anti-woke if that problem didn't exist?), he's still a technocrat working with and for the military-industrial complex. So if anything, some things can be commendable, but his actions are nonetheless to be scrutinized.
I think this is spot on. The focus should be on his actions and they warrant scrutiny because of his govt. & MIC contracts.

Having said that, I have enjoyed some of the memes, like this one using math to work out the exact angle of the salute. :-D
 
He was clearly just trying to say thank you and expressing heartfelt gratitude for all that everyone did to get to that moment.

Not clear at all, otherwise there would be no controversy. Couldn't he just do a few dance steps or make the heart sign with his hands? Why choose such a highly symbolic gesture when you're the centre of media attention? He knows it's bound to cause controversy.
What do you make of the crowd cheering and applauding?
 
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