emotions

[truth seeker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNsd4AYwaJA

Hi a_d,

Perhaps this link may help to clarify a bit: :)

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13j.htm

 

[anamaria_dinca]

Exactly, here in 3D ;)

 

[anart]

Exactly, here in 3D ;)

Apologies, anamaria, I don't quite understand your 'exactly' since everything else you've posted in this thread runs contrary to current understanding. Can you clarify?

 

[Buddy]

I wanted to try to find out the difference between a feeling and a emotion.

In casual expressions, maybe the difference depends on what a person is wanting to communicate at the time.

A little addition.

Where do feelings come from.
I was forgotten about this. I learnt a while ago that feelings are created by our thoughts. Mostly onconsious thoughts.
What we think is what we feel. And what we feel is what we experience.

Sandra

It may help to think of 'feelings' as an overall state of consciousness in relation to something. This overall state may or may not include a specific emotion. And if it does include a specific emotion, it may or may not be recognized due to buffering.

I described a situation involving my grandson that fits this explanation. My overall state of consciousness in that situation could be described as "I felt he was being uncooperative and thus annoying me, possibly on purpose." My 'feelings' included certain thoughts, volitions or determinations, sensations and emotion. The real emotion present was sorrow at a changing of the bonding dynamic between he and I.

So, in case it's not clear, I'm saying that when a person uses phrases like: I feel this or that, I feel you are wrong, I feel things are screwed up, etc., they seem most likely to be describing their overall state of consciousness in relation to something and this state may or may not include a specific recognizable emotion.

If this description is useful, we can scale it up to the level of society and maybe see something interesting today of all days. The events of September 11, 2001 induced horror, anger, sorrow and many other emotions in people as the reality of what was happening in the twin towers made it's visceral impact. But that's not all that was going on with the average person.

At the same time that these specific emotions toward this tragedy were being felt, the average person (if he were paying attention) would find that his feelings toward Islam and muslims and maybe the middle east in general were being shaped into a moral condemnation. People in general were manipulated into performing this judgement themselves with the support of the mainstream media and politicians and ever since then, for these same people, their feelings or state of consciousness in relation to Islam, Muslims, Iraq, Iran, and anything resembling this people, area or culture gelled into a moral condemnation and justification for revenge.

If anything needs further clarification, please ask.

 

[Buddy]

I did not know where else to post this, this is the most suitable thread I could find.

My question is about thinking. What does SOTT mean by a world for people who THINK? I know emotional thinking can be a hindrance, a huge one. But so can thinking without emotions. Is this what SOTT means?

Maybe you're over-thinking it a bit? People who do their own thinking just need data, even if they must separate the wheat and chaff themselves. The remainder of people just need a story that includes the most obvious data and just sounds good, OSIT.

Typically, "emotional intelligence" is defined in terms of emotional empathy, attention to, and discrimination of, one's emotions, accurate recognition of one's own and others' moods, mood management or control over emotions, response with appropriate (adaptive) emotions and behaviors in various life situations, especially to stress and difficult situations, balancing of honest expression of emotions against courtesy, consideration, and respect (i.e., possession of good social skills and communication skills). Additional, though less often mentioned qualities, include selection of work that is emotionally rewarding to avoid procrastination, self-doubt, and low achievement (i.e., good self-motivation and goal management) and a balance between work, home, and recreational life.

and the IQ. So a good level of IQ and emotional intelligence results in a person that can THINK?

How do you get "a good level of IQ and emotional intelligence" before you can think?

The goal is to become conscious, or increase the levels of consciousness. It is surprising to me how many people describe their internal self-talk as "thinking", especially when 'whole-being' mentation is possible and the bigger goal, so-to-speak. We have to both think and feel to be conscious because the entire organism must be involved as G says.

 

[obyvatel]

My question is about thinking. What does SOTT mean by a world for people who THINK? I know emotional thinking can be a hindrance, a huge one. But so can thinking without emotions. Is this what SOTT means?

The statement "people who think" in the SOTT context perhaps means people who are able to consider data and facts ,which most often run against the official and mass-media propagated stories generally accepted as the truth, with an open and critical mind. Perhaps for many such people, the visceral understanding that the world is not what it is popularly made out to be is a starting point to look further into the real state of affairs. If they do wish to delve further, they may come to the forum and ponerology and 4th Way Work, where they begin to sort out things like emotional thinking or separate out thoughts and emotions.

 

[HowToBe]

The word feeling can be used to mean "emotion", "sensation", or "intuition" depending on context and what the speaker is trying to say (I haven't thought of any other meanings yet). I suppose it can also be used to mean all of these things at once or a specific combination of these, such as in a sentence like "" This could cause confusion when, rather than using specific terms, a person uses the word "feeling" in a nonspecific way, one time using it to mean emotion, the next time, intuition, etc.

Examples:
"Play the music with feeling!" ~emotion
"This feels smooth." ~sensation
"I have a bad feeling about this." ~intuition

I hope this is helpful and on-target. I really enjoy analyzing words, language, and communication. :)