Etruscans and time travel

[Satori]

I have been meditating with crystals for many years. Yesterday i felt a problem with my heart chakra and decided to do some balancing using 9 crystals during a meditation. 7 crystals on the main chakras, this as usual worked well and as i had a little time i held the other 2 in my hands, the one in my right hand was a "record keeper". For those that don't know, record keepers are a type of quartz with a natural face that contains small and slightly raised triangles which often can only be seen at a certain angle. It is said that these hold the knowledge of the ancients and if correctly used during meditation can release valuable information lost in history. I had a very pleasant meditation and when finished i decided torelax and have a game of cards on my computer.

After a few minutes the word "Eutruscans" came into my head, i ignored this. The a couple of minutes later it happened again, being a bit slow i ignored it again. Very often i think of things and they slip out of my mind, even when i try to remember. But again and again it kept coming back!! So i wrote the word down and caried on playing. At this point i had never heard of this word or had any idea what it meant but as i had just used the record keeper i thought it might be important.

When i finished the game i googled the word. I discovered the 2 different spellings and to my amazement opened the wiki page which told me of an ancient civilisation (pre-Roman) in part of what is now Italy. This felt significant, so i did a search on the forum here and found a few mentions by the C's with a few clues about them, but not much really

This is from a session with the C's

Q: I am tracking the clues through the various languages and alphabets. I would like to know which of these alphabets, Runic, Greek, or Etruscan, preceded the others, and from which the others are derived?

A: Etruscan.

Q: Well, who were the Etruscans?

A: Templar carriers.

Q: What does that mean?

A: Seek and ye shall find.

Q: Well, how am I supposed to do that? I can’t find anything else on the Etruscans! What are Templar carriers?

A: Penitent Avian Lords.

Q: What does that mean?

A: For your search. All is drawn from some more ancient form.

[…]

Q: Well, I think that a HUGE key is in the tracking of the languages...

A: The roots of all languages are identical...

Q: What do you mean?

A: Your origin.

Q: You mean Orion?

A: Interesting the word root similarity, yes?

Q: Well, the word root similarities of a LOT of things are VERY interesting! It is AMAZING the things I have discovered by tracking word roots...

A: The architects of your languages left clues aplenty.

Penitant Avian Lords really struck a chord, so i did a search on google and came up with a really facsinating page, very long and a bit too much maths in places but nevertheless an interesting read

Here's a segment

ADMIN NOTE: Deleted word salad by Vincent Bridges.

Earlier on it talks about levels of waves and frequencies and talks about time, not as a dimension but as a wave!!! It makes perfect sense if you think about the whole of creation as represented by different frequencies or wavelengths.

Solid mater is a form of wave with a low, slow or long vibration
Sound is a faster, higher and shorter vibe
Light carries on through the spectrum and is faster still, higher and even shorter vibration
Then comes time, faster, shorter and a much higher vibrational rate
I also think that spirit is the next up in the stage

Einstein said that it was not possible to travel faster than the speed of light because of the effects on time, therefore by implication anything which travels faster than light would be travelling in time, ergo time is a wave that travels faster than light


Here's a link to the full page if anyone's interested

_http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/orion/orionheart.html

This didn't really answer the questions i thought it would, but it certainly led me to some interesting ideas

By the way, if anyone has any info on the Eutruscans or Etruscans please let me know

 

[durabone]

Hey Satori;

That Dan is Dan Winter, discussed many times here.
Controversial character definitely worth searching up,
he was active way back. I think I first heard of him
in 1996. Also of relevance is Winter's 'origins' and his
apparent attendance at the University of Science and Philosophy,
and this will lead you to a whole 'nuther realm, known
as "Walter Russell" about whom there is much dis-info.
('course you might already know all this) ENJOY

type of quartz with a natural face that contains small and slightly raised triangles which often can only be seen at a certain angle

I'd like to see one of these are they pretty easily obtained? Thxs.

EDIT: Off topic: That ancient Estruscan recipe I found for artichokes is possibly the best I have ever had!!!!

 

[Satori]

Hi potamus

Thanks for that I'll check him out

The record keepers are quite rare, but not necessarily expensive, i was lucky to find one about 17 years ago when i spent 6 months working in a shop that sold crystals. See if you can find some images on the internet to recognise one, then scour the shops, they are always quartz and most of the people selling them don't know the true value....thankfully

 

[durabone]

One minor clarification: My statement "worth searching up" does not mean advocacy.
What I mean is in that he has had a significant enough effect that he'd likely get solid
mention if there were some sort of Encyclopedic tome "Who's who" in the conspiracy/
new age community 'EDIT oops timed out, log back in ..." . Thanks for the crystal info.

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi all,

Did you guys have a chance to read about crystals? There's a lot of information there and it might just change your views about using them or anything else for that matter. :)

 

[Mountain Crown]

That Dan is Dan Winter, discussed many times here.

Whose associate and publisher is Vincent Bridges - exposed psychopath on a mission to destroy the QFG.

 

[Satori]

Thanks Vulcan

I'll have a read

 

[durabone]

Wooah!! Big connect the dots!!! Thanks Jerry!!

Whose associate and publisher is Vincent Bridges.

There is much in the way to corroborate that the Brookings Institute (British CIA) usurped Walter Russell's work, estate, and widow, and then set up a honey pot aka "The Univ of Sci & Phil.
If Dan Winter is a product of this honey pot, then he might be considered an 'asset' in certain circles. Has it been alleged that VB has connections with the BI? Thank you very much!

 

[Satori]

Thaks for the link Vulcan, I've read it and i can't see anything "bad" about using crystals. I have been studying crystals for about 20 years, there are many benefits if used correctly. They are a tool and a means, they are not the end. I read the bit about these so called new age pendants and i agree they can bedangerous if not used or charged correctly. By the way the sun does not energise the crystals, it mearly cleanses them. Crystals can accumalate both positive and negative energies and therefore it is a good idea to cleanse them frequently, this can also be done by running them under natural water (not tap). They are charged up in the full moon.

I have used them extensively for healing purposes on myself and others, there are many uses for them but mostly i use them to align my chakras and to help with meditation (i often meditate without them though). I don't have any ritualistic approach to using them. This might seem hard to believe but i feel energy in a different way to most and in particular i feel the unique energy patterns that are given off from crystals. This is useful as after 20 years i am begining to recognise and then create certain energies without the use of them. This is an ongoing learning experience for me and i hope to evolve to a point where they are no longer neccesary. I'm not into witchcraft or anything spooky!

I do understand that the application of knowledge is everything, which is why i have spent many years studying them. We all know about the harm that computers can cause, but we still use them. Fire can also be very dangerous if used incorrectly! Do you get my point?

Crystals can be used to offset negative energy, I use a cluster on my (walkaround type) house phone to depleet the harmfull microwaves given off by the base unit and i use many in my recording studio to counterbalance the magnetic forces created by all the electrical flow.

I notice that Laura mentions that she has some in a bowl in her house because she likes the look of them, she may not realise it but they also affect the environment and indirectly anyone who is near them. She also mentions (as i'm sure alot of people do) that she likes wearing an amethyst pendant because she likes the look of it. Maybeon a subconscious level she knows it has properties that resonate well with her, in the same way that people like to wear a particular colour of clothes, different colours give off certain frequencies (ie waves). Some people prefer to have wooden furniture or floors because they like the "feel".

If you cut yourself by accident then you would likely use a plaster or bandage to help the healing process, maybe some savlon or aloe vera? Likewise i use a crystal to help healing.

Quote from the C's

Q: (L) Do any of the rituals we perform provide protection against further abduction?
A: Maybe. Some Crystals with energy fields. Don't need protection if you have knowledge.

Q: (L) What about the rocks? [We had been discussing large crystals on a nearby table.]
A: Put in sunlight for two days.
Q: (L) And what will that do?
A: Energize.
Q: (L) Energized to do what?
A: Provide power to you.

I notice that they don't discourage the use of crystals. Knowledge is good

Love and luck my friend

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

I notice that they don't discourage the use of crystals. Knowledge is good

Love and luck my friend

They do discourage rituals, however, and using crystals or any physical objects and assuming it will protect you is a ritual. They have stressed that it is knowledge that protects and rituals are self-defeating. If crystals do anything at all, it seems that the effect is very limited at best, and most likely self-delusion in most cases. Knowledge, on the other hand, has no limits.

 

[Satori]

They do discourage rituals, however, and using crystals or any physical objects and assuming it will protect you is a ritual. They have stressed that it is knowledge that protects and rituals are self-defeating. If crystals do anything at all, it seems that the effect is very limited at best, and most likely self-delusion in most cases. Knowledge, on the other hand, has no limits.

Interesting reply SAO. I agree that rituals are not a good thing, but i don't remember using any with the crystals or even mentioning any, or suggesting that they should be used for protection!! If you read my post then you would know that?

Knowledge is obviously the most important aspect here as is always the case, but you have decided that crystals do not have much effect... what knowledge do you have to base this decision on my friend?

People are oft to put down things they don't understand

Learning is much more fun

Any repetitive action could be considered a ritual, morning coffee anyone? Deep breathing exercises?

I'm not suggesting that either of those are bad, but think about it

I am however feeling that there is a strong negative attitude towards crystals here, I wonder why?

 

[Jakesully]

Earlier on it talks about levels of waves and frequencies and talks about time, not as a dimension but as a wave!!! It makes perfect sense if you think about the whole of creation as represented by different frequencies or wavelengths.

Solid mater is a form of wave with a low, slow or long vibration
Sound is a faster, higher and shorter vibe
Light carries on through the spectrum and is faster still, higher and even shorter vibration
Then comes time, faster, shorter and a much higher vibrational rate
I also think that spirit is the next up in the stage

Einstein said that it was not possible to travel faster than the speed of light because of the effects on time, therefore by implication anything which travels faster than light would be travelling in time, ergo time is a wave that travels faster than light


Here's a link to the full page if anyone's interested

_http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/orion/orionheart.html

Spirit, yes, and even knowledge. Perhaps this is what Gurdjieff meant when he said that knowledge is a finite substance. Could this also be the very meaning of the different levels of densities? Someone who can exceed the "speed" of light can move back and forth through time and achieve 4th Density consciousness. Then someone who dies essentially exceeds the "speed" of time and goes back to 5D "home" outside of time to plan their next adventure in 3D or 4D.

Funny how I was just browsing Crossfit.com and came across this excerpt from "The Use of Knowledge in Society" by Friedrich August von Hayek (1945). It's an interesting read in relation to knowledge and economic models. What Hayek says basically is that the pricing system allows people to make use of their overlapping areas of circumstantial, temporary knowledge of their immediate surroundings in order to plan and function as a composite whole optimally as if a centralized figure with all of the circumstantial knowledge of the whole system would devise such a plan.

It allows everyone to use knowledge of the whole system that they wouldn't have otherwise.

It makes me wonder if just such an economic or "pricing" system could be developed in relation to knowledge just as with material goods. Or if one has not already been developed and perhaps we are using it right now.

 

[anart]

They do discourage rituals, however, and using crystals or any physical objects and assuming it will protect you is a ritual. They have stressed that it is knowledge that protects and rituals are self-defeating. If crystals do anything at all, it seems that the effect is very limited at best, and most likely self-delusion in most cases. Knowledge, on the other hand, has no limits.

Interesting reply SAO. I agree that rituals are not a good thing, but i don't remember using any with the crystals or even mentioning any, or suggesting that they should be used for protection!! If you read my post then you would know that?

Knowledge is obviously the most important aspect here as is always the case, but you have decided that crystals do not have much effect... what knowledge do you have to base this decision on my friend?

People are oft to put down things they don't understand

Learning is much more fun

Any repetitive action could be considered a ritual, morning coffee anyone? Deep breathing exercises?

I'm not suggesting that either of those are bad, but think about it

I am however feeling that there is a strong negative attitude towards crystals here, I wonder why?

Satori, I think what SAO was picking up on is the idea that you focus your activity ON your crystals. You write as if the crystals are the most important part of what you do - as if they actually 'store knowledge' - when it is your knowledge that matters. The crystals do not matter - not in comparison to the human being.

From what you have written here, you appear to be quite identified with your crystals, as if they alone matter.

Also, you have described a ritual with your description of how you use your crystals and rituals drain. What might you find out about yourself and learn if you put down your crystals and walked away from them. Are you capable of doing that, or do you think they hold a power, in and of themselves?

 

[Jakesully]

Earlier on it talks about levels of waves and frequencies and talks about time, not as a dimension but as a wave!!! It makes perfect sense if you think about the whole of creation as represented by different frequencies or wavelengths.

Solid mater is a form of wave with a low, slow or long vibration
Sound is a faster, higher and shorter vibe
Light carries on through the spectrum and is faster still, higher and even shorter vibration
Then comes time, faster, shorter and a much higher vibrational rate
I also think that spirit is the next up in the stage

Einstein said that it was not possible to travel faster than the speed of light because of the effects on time, therefore by implication anything which travels faster than light would be travelling in time, ergo time is a wave that travels faster than light


Here's a link to the full page if anyone's interested

_http://caltek.net/dan/connectivity/phibiz/orion/orionheart.html

Spirit, yes, and even knowledge. Perhaps this is what Gurdjieff meant when he said that knowledge is a finite substance. Could this also be the very meaning of the different levels of densities? Someone who can exceed the "speed" of light can move back and forth through time and achieve 4th Density consciousness. Then someone who dies essentially exceeds the "speed" of time and goes back to 5D "home" outside of time to plan their next adventure in 3D or 4D.

Funny how I was just browsing Crossfit.com and came across this excerpt from "The Use of Knowledge in Society" by Friedrich August von Hayek (1945). It's an interesting read in relation to knowledge and economic models. What Hayek says basically is that the pricing system allows people to make use of their overlapping areas of circumstantial, temporary knowledge of their immediate surroundings in order to plan and function as a composite whole optimally as if a centralized figure with all of the circumstantial knowledge of the whole system would devise such a plan.

It allows everyone to use knowledge of the whole system that they wouldn't have otherwise.

It makes me wonder if just such an economic or "pricing" system could be developed in relation to knowledge just as with material goods. Or if one has not already been developed and perhaps we are using it right now.

Adding on to my point, it's apparent from the use of a pricing system that knowledge as a substance moves much faster than our ability to think about it. Quoting from the piece by Hayek,

As Alfred Whitehead has said in another connection, “It is a profoundly erroneous truism, repeated by all copy-books and by eminent people when they are making speeches, that we should cultivate the habit of thinking what we are doing. The precise opposite is the case. Civilization advances by extending the number of important operations which we can perform without thinking about them.” This is of profound significance in the social field. We make constant use of formulas, symbols, and rules whose meaning we do not understand and through the use of which we avail ourselves of the assistance of knowledge which individually we do not possess. We have developed these practices and institutions by building upon habits and institutions which have proved successful in their own sphere and which have in turn become the foundation of the civilization we have built up.

Further underscoring the importance of the networking principle and community collaboration.

 

[Jakesully]

They do discourage rituals, however, and using crystals or any physical objects and assuming it will protect you is a ritual. They have stressed that it is knowledge that protects and rituals are self-defeating. If crystals do anything at all, it seems that the effect is very limited at best, and most likely self-delusion in most cases. Knowledge, on the other hand, has no limits.

Interesting reply SAO. I agree that rituals are not a good thing, but i don't remember using any with the crystals or even mentioning any, or suggesting that they should be used for protection!! If you read my post then you would know that?

Knowledge is obviously the most important aspect here as is always the case, but you have decided that crystals do not have much effect... what knowledge do you have to base this decision on my friend?

People are oft to put down things they don't understand

Learning is much more fun

Any repetitive action could be considered a ritual, morning coffee anyone? Deep breathing exercises?

I'm not suggesting that either of those are bad, but think about it

I am however feeling that there is a strong negative attitude towards crystals here, I wonder why?

Satori, I think it's important to understand that use of crystals in meditation or in any other aspect of your life is simply a tool, just as Laura's use of a Ouijia Board to channel the C's. All these tools should be ordered towards the Work, inner growth, or else they become a path towards sleep.

And further building on the point that knowledge as a substance moves much faster than a crystal (matter), perhaps this is what the C's mean when they say you don't need protection or even the use of crystals if you have knowledge.