BrendaH
Jedi
Hello.
Today I listened to the audio files about channeling and exorcism part 1 and part 2 from Cassiopaea.org page, I was looking for answers about exorcism and what are those entities, if they are demons, or different parts of our personality that manifest themselves in that way or whatever it could be. The reason why I was curious about it was because before I get rid of my old beliefs I used to go to a church called "The Universal Church of the Kingdom Of God". This church was found in Brazil in 1977. Well, the point is that this church have a special meet for everyday of the week. And what I want to talk about it's about Fridays. Friday is a "liberation's day" and that's how they call it. It's basically, and after listening to the audio files that I mentioned above, like a spirit release meet/therapy or whatever you want to call it. The pastor of the church starts the meeting, people pray, and then he starts putting above people's head the "consecrated mantle" while he is praying. He says something like this: "In the name of Jesus, all the spirits of sadness, illness (he names a lot of "spirits" more)... that are in the body of this person, I order you in the name of Jesus to leave the body" and more... well, and people starts crying, shouting, fall to the ground, In some cases they want to run away of the church and so. I remember that I used to hate this part, there was a lot of noise. I used to feel scared. As always my heart began to beat fast, it was really awful. So, I end up founding a relation between what Laura said in the audio file and with what I've seen there. When a person starts to shout, cry, and all I've mentioned it's what they call "manifestation". After the manifestation follows the liberation or release of the spirit, so we can say that they are part of the same process. When someone is in this state they are not themselves because this entity takes control over the person's body. My mother still going to this church and so does my aunt, and once I asked her what do they see when they are in this state (I wanted to know where the mind or "I" goes when this entity takes control of the body) So she told me that she sees nothing but a black space and my mother told me the same, but in her case was white.
What I could observed is that for all of this to happen people need to let themselves go, they have to concentrate in the words of the pastor, plus the faith that they have in Jesus or in the power of the pastor, etc., they make it easy.
Do you remember I said that in some cases people want to run away of the church when they are under this state? This happened to my mother once, she run away and tried to go directly under the wheels of a moving car. And one of the persons that helps the pastor shouted something at her and took her out of this state. There was also an occasion where a girl began to vomit blood, apparently she was on drugs and was involved with a satanic group, I don't remember exactly. And I can go on. All the persons that have experienced this manifestation/liberation have something in common. All of them have a tortuous childhood, problems with drugs, involved with satanic groups, depression, suicidal thoughts, illness (but most of the time I saw someone under that state because of this was because, apparently it was a genetic illness or someone had made some kind of sorcery or whatever to the person).
Laura in the audio files mentions, what she calls the formula, where she calls angels of light to take the entity out of the body and guide him to the light, If I understood right. And then we have the pastor calling for Jesus to take the entity out of the body. I don't understand nothing about hypnosis and I don't know if the formula is the method to induce a person, but if this is the case we can say that when the pastor calls for Jesus, he is inducing the people under hypnosis.
And also she mentioned that the subject under hypnosis made movements like a serpent, and this is something that I have seen in the process of liberation.
Conclusion: I think what they do in this church is like put you under hypnosis so they can release the spirit/demon/entity. But now I wonder, I have seen a lot of people in the state of liberation, and when the process is finished they feel better, but then they go back to their old habits and the next Friday is the same as the last one, So can they really get rid of them? Can they leave these bad habits and consequently get rid of the entity?
These are videos of people being under the state that I've mentioned, all of them are in spanish or portuguese, I'm sorry for that, I couldn't find any video in english. But basically the pastor asks to the entity about what is he doing in the life of this person and what he wants, and the entity responds. In all of the videos says that he wants to take the soul of the person.
1)https://youtu.be/3KKZsZ2DzKY
2)https://youtu.be/ryINqexWzug
3)https://youtu.be/FK-1QVg7nuM
4)https://youtu.be/JUW2iNN_jF0
Well, that's all, I would like to know your opinion about this and if you think this "liberation's Fridays" consist in putting people under hypnosis to release the spirit.
I hope I expressed myself well. Bye :)
Today I listened to the audio files about channeling and exorcism part 1 and part 2 from Cassiopaea.org page, I was looking for answers about exorcism and what are those entities, if they are demons, or different parts of our personality that manifest themselves in that way or whatever it could be. The reason why I was curious about it was because before I get rid of my old beliefs I used to go to a church called "The Universal Church of the Kingdom Of God". This church was found in Brazil in 1977. Well, the point is that this church have a special meet for everyday of the week. And what I want to talk about it's about Fridays. Friday is a "liberation's day" and that's how they call it. It's basically, and after listening to the audio files that I mentioned above, like a spirit release meet/therapy or whatever you want to call it. The pastor of the church starts the meeting, people pray, and then he starts putting above people's head the "consecrated mantle" while he is praying. He says something like this: "In the name of Jesus, all the spirits of sadness, illness (he names a lot of "spirits" more)... that are in the body of this person, I order you in the name of Jesus to leave the body" and more... well, and people starts crying, shouting, fall to the ground, In some cases they want to run away of the church and so. I remember that I used to hate this part, there was a lot of noise. I used to feel scared. As always my heart began to beat fast, it was really awful. So, I end up founding a relation between what Laura said in the audio file and with what I've seen there. When a person starts to shout, cry, and all I've mentioned it's what they call "manifestation". After the manifestation follows the liberation or release of the spirit, so we can say that they are part of the same process. When someone is in this state they are not themselves because this entity takes control over the person's body. My mother still going to this church and so does my aunt, and once I asked her what do they see when they are in this state (I wanted to know where the mind or "I" goes when this entity takes control of the body) So she told me that she sees nothing but a black space and my mother told me the same, but in her case was white.
What I could observed is that for all of this to happen people need to let themselves go, they have to concentrate in the words of the pastor, plus the faith that they have in Jesus or in the power of the pastor, etc., they make it easy.
Do you remember I said that in some cases people want to run away of the church when they are under this state? This happened to my mother once, she run away and tried to go directly under the wheels of a moving car. And one of the persons that helps the pastor shouted something at her and took her out of this state. There was also an occasion where a girl began to vomit blood, apparently she was on drugs and was involved with a satanic group, I don't remember exactly. And I can go on. All the persons that have experienced this manifestation/liberation have something in common. All of them have a tortuous childhood, problems with drugs, involved with satanic groups, depression, suicidal thoughts, illness (but most of the time I saw someone under that state because of this was because, apparently it was a genetic illness or someone had made some kind of sorcery or whatever to the person).
Laura in the audio files mentions, what she calls the formula, where she calls angels of light to take the entity out of the body and guide him to the light, If I understood right. And then we have the pastor calling for Jesus to take the entity out of the body. I don't understand nothing about hypnosis and I don't know if the formula is the method to induce a person, but if this is the case we can say that when the pastor calls for Jesus, he is inducing the people under hypnosis.
And also she mentioned that the subject under hypnosis made movements like a serpent, and this is something that I have seen in the process of liberation.
Conclusion: I think what they do in this church is like put you under hypnosis so they can release the spirit/demon/entity. But now I wonder, I have seen a lot of people in the state of liberation, and when the process is finished they feel better, but then they go back to their old habits and the next Friday is the same as the last one, So can they really get rid of them? Can they leave these bad habits and consequently get rid of the entity?
These are videos of people being under the state that I've mentioned, all of them are in spanish or portuguese, I'm sorry for that, I couldn't find any video in english. But basically the pastor asks to the entity about what is he doing in the life of this person and what he wants, and the entity responds. In all of the videos says that he wants to take the soul of the person.
1)https://youtu.be/3KKZsZ2DzKY
2)https://youtu.be/ryINqexWzug
3)https://youtu.be/FK-1QVg7nuM
4)https://youtu.be/JUW2iNN_jF0
Well, that's all, I would like to know your opinion about this and if you think this "liberation's Fridays" consist in putting people under hypnosis to release the spirit.
I hope I expressed myself well. Bye :)