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[Azur]

[Unless we become gods

Which gods do you mean?

That's pretty open, how do you see "gods" versus your intimated "useless" existence?

You seem to say there's a difference between the two. So what do you think it is?

 

[djewlew]

I reiterate: "Life is worthless". Because there is no aim, goal or objective to arrive at. You enjoy your ephemeral existence, and then what? You become a philosopher, and then what? You will be remembered for a thousand generations, and then what? You migrate to another place in the universe, and then what?... Life is an illusion... and there is no definition for illusion. [Unless we become gods one day ... but there is also no definition for "day".]

Hey djewlew,

You seem to be very frustrated and angry, these are clear consecuences of the difficulty imposed on our world to conceal the truth at all costs, it takes a great effort to not give up and go looking for truth despite the suffering this entails.
djewlew, you seem so tired, seems you have thrown the towel, is that the case?

Is there still inside you a spark of faith in truth?

'Life is religion. Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God. Those who are asleep are those of little faith in terms of their interaction with the creation. Some people think that the world exists for them to overcome or ignore or shut out. For those individuals, the world will cease. They will become exactly what they give to life. They will become merely a dream in the 'past.' People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the 'Future.'

Here, you will no longer going to be alone.

Hi, Ana. Beautiful name; reminds me of a beautiful lady I knew many years ago [she passed away in terrible pain... ].
Anyway, who would want to "conceal the truth at all costs"?!... Are you sure of that; absolutely sure?
Ana: why would it take suffering to look for the truth? But more important: WHO lost the truth? Who really lost the truth? And even more important then the truth itself: who DESIGNED the system where TRUTH WOULD BE LOST?! If you are able to answer you are not only a lady with a beautiful name but the apex of wisdom.

 

[Oxajil]

Hi djewlew,

Have you already started reading the Wave? It will give you possible answers on the questions you have and certainly will show you different perspectives on All that Is.

I reiterate: "Life is worthless". Because there is no aim, goal or objective to arrive at. You enjoy your ephemeral existence, and then what? You become a philosopher, and then what? You will be remembered for a thousand generations, and then what? You migrate to another place in the universe, and then what?... Life is an illusion... and there is no definition for illusion. [Unless we become gods one day ... but there is also no definition for "day".]

3D thinking.
The aim, goal or objective is to learn lessons from Life. Then what? Maybe then, we'll see, if there will be any 'then'.
Maybe we should concentrate on 'now', on this life, and what we can learn from it. There is so much to discover and to learn, but somehow you seem stuck.

Hi, Ana. Beautiful name; reminds me of a beautiful lady I knew many years ago [she passed away in terrible pain... ].
Anyway, who would want to "conceal the truth at all costs"?!... Are you sure of that; absolutely sure?
Ana: why would it take suffering to look for the truth? But more important: WHO lost the truth? Who really lost the truth? And even more important then the truth itself: who DESIGNED the system where TRUTH WOULD BE LOST?! If you are able to answer you are not only a lady with a beautiful name but the apex of wisdom.

Again, I advise you to read the Wave online, or otherwise read the books.

online: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm
books: http://www.qfgpublishing.com/product_info.php?products_id=33&osCsid=n9vnf0h6uk6hg9q6d7l7v8j6n1

 

[ana]

Hi, Ana. Beautiful name; reminds me of a beautiful lady I knew many years ago [she passed away in terrible pain... ].
Anyway, who would want to "conceal the truth at all costs"?!... Are you sure of that; absolutely sure?
Ana: why would it take suffering to look for the truth? But more important: WHO lost the truth? Who really lost the truth? And even more important then the truth itself: who DESIGNED the system where TRUTH WOULD BE LOST?!

There is a sentence from Laura, wich seems to me perfect for your questions:

There is no free lunch in the Universe and if you think there is, then you’re lunch.

If you are able to answer you are not only a lady with a beautiful name but the apex of wisdom.

Neither one nor the other..., now, where are you going to try to pigeon hole myself?

 

[RedFox]

Anyway, who would want to "conceal the truth at all costs"?!...

You would have to read the Wave series to answer that for yourself.

why would it take suffering to look for the truth?

Djewlew. I have followed your posts and think I may have some insight for you.

Hi, Ana. Beautiful name; reminds me of a beautiful lady I knew many years ago [she passed away in terrible pain... ]

I have seen a lot of anger in your posts. Here you show for the first time the tip of an iceberg of pain perhaps? You are literally so full of emotion that I can almost taste the bitterness in your posts. How many years have you had this pain and kept it bottled inside you?? 30, 40, 50 years?
The reason I bring this up is because you cannot know why truth requires suffering when you are so full of trapped and unexpressed emotions. There is no room in your internal world for anything but your own pain and suffering.
Without finally letting go of it all, you will never be able to know 'why would it take suffering to look for the truth?'.

Have you considered seeing a councillor to help you process all your unresolved emotions??

We have a Breathing and Meditation program here that is freely available for anyone to download and listen too, that is very effective at helping release bottled emotions.

why would it take suffering to look for the truth?

Can you put yourself in anothers shoes? Can you think of others without thinking of yourself?
Can you know what it is like to live as a child knowing nothing but starvation and disease? Can you appreciate a sunset?
Can you know what it is like to live with abuse and have your soul crushed? Can you appreciate the beauty in music?
Can you know what it is like to witness as a child soldiers raping and killing your mother and sisters and fleeing for your life through fire? Can you appreciate the joy in creating a meal for yourself and loved ones?
Can you know what it is like to be old and alone and socially isolated, and sleeping on the street in freezing conditions with no shelter? Can you appreciate the beauty of growing your own flowers?

Can you experience both through the eyes of another?

Not everyone wants to/is ready to move on from there past.....some people ware there pain like a badge of honour. Here however, in this forum, we strive to move forward with kindness and wisdom, and support each other through the horror and beauty of it all. Eventually letting go of our past barriers, shields and 'badges of honour' around such pain/sadness/anger/grief, experiencing the emotions and letting it go is the only way to move forwards.

Rather than read or post anything else, I would suggest you seriously consider that perhaps it is time for you to stop waring your pain like a badge of honour, and heal yourself so you don't have to suffer that way any more.

If this is what you want, we can probably point you in the right direction and offer support.
If it is not, I kindly suggest that you leave your pain at the door.

 

[djewlew]

Anyway, who would want to "conceal the truth at all costs"?!...

You would have to read the Wave series to answer that for yourself.

why would it take suffering to look for the truth?

Djewlew. I have followed your posts and think I may have some insight for you.

Hi, Ana. Beautiful name; reminds me of a beautiful lady I knew many years ago [she passed away in terrible pain... ]

I have seen a lot of anger in your posts. Here you show for the first time the tip of an iceberg of pain perhaps? You are literally so full of emotion that I can almost taste the bitterness in your posts. How many years have you had this pain and kept it bottled inside you?? 30, 40, 50 years?
The reason I bring this up is because you cannot know why truth requires suffering when you are so full of trapped and unexpressed emotions. There is no room in your internal world for anything but your own pain and suffering.
Without finally letting go of it all, you will never be able to know 'why would it take suffering to look for the truth?'.

Have you considered seeing a councillor to help you process all your unresolved emotions??

We have a Breathing and Meditation program here that is freely available for anyone to download and listen too, that is very effective at helping release bottled emotions.

why would it take suffering to look for the truth?

Can you put yourself in anothers shoes? Can you think of others without thinking of yourself?
Can you know what it is like to live as a child knowing nothing but starvation and disease? Can you appreciate a sunset?
Can you know what it is like to live with abuse and have your soul crushed? Can you appreciate the beauty in music?
Can you know what it is like to witness as a child soldiers raping and killing your mother and sisters and fleeing for your life through fire? Can you appreciate the joy in creating a meal for yourself and loved ones?
Can you know what it is like to be old and alone and socially isolated, and sleeping on the street in freezing conditions with no shelter? Can you appreciate the beauty of growing your own flowers?

Can you experience both through the eyes of another?

Not everyone wants to/is ready to move on from there past.....some people ware there pain like a badge of honour. Here however, in this forum, we strive to move forward with kindness and wisdom, and support each other through the horror and beauty of it all. Eventually letting go of our past barriers, shields and 'badges of honour' around such pain/sadness/anger/grief, experiencing the emotions and letting it go is the only way to move forwards.

Rather than read or post anything else, I would suggest you seriously consider that perhaps it is time for you to stop waring your pain like a badge of honour, and heal yourself so you don't have to suffer that way any more.

If this is what you want, we can probably point you in the right direction and offer support.
If it is not, I kindly suggest that you leave your pain at the door.

Hi, RedFox. Appreciated your kind words, thank you.
I liked your label "Pain like a badge of honour".
Yes, pain is NOT to be part of THE truth.
If it would, we would have a firm index finger to point sharply at some "Creator" who did not have a BETTER PLAN then this morally MESSED UP PLANET!!
I am angry at that "Subjective Creator" infesting our lives with ridiculous diatribes and absurdities!!!
I heard this preacher praying for a new car he needed to go around doing evangelism!
I got extremely upset with him, but did not have the courage [cowardly of me!] to go confront him and tell him rather pray for MISSING CHILDREN in the world, so that their parents stop suffering the HORROR!!!
He was a deceived bigot, with priorities upside down.
Isn't this the truth of our lives?
Looking for our own pleasures and forgetting the suffering of the other human being?!...
STOP praying for new cars, you idiot!
Pray to your god to find ALL the MISSING CHILDREN in the world, then come and ask me to believe the truth!!

 

[cholas]

Though you probably haven't stumbled upon it yet in your reading djewlew, it was mentioned here that using explanation points in your sentences gives the
non-verbal impression of shouting.

When the words used connote anger, the combination is a bit offensive and usually doesn't lend itself well to discussion, which is what we are ultimately trying to accomplish right?

FWIW.

 

[Mountain Crown]

djewlew,

There comes a time when one must admit to being part of this world; to being responsible to it.

Those preachers owe you nothing.

You repeatedly assert there is no truth, then expound on it's nature. Your discomfort from sitting on the fence is felt by many of us here; the provoking style of your posts is being viewed as an asking for help; what would it hurt to listen, just a little, give us here a little benefit of the doubt?

If you have lost a child, please accept my deepest sympathy; I wish you peace and healing for your soul.

 

[anothermagyar]

This is why this forum created to give help and advise people who reach out for help.
During my reading of the books especially esoteric books and psychological books I needed a lot of help.(still need help! ;))
Yes. We try to understand this world, why and how the people who ruling others(PTB) do whatever they do.
This was my first major understanding (against New Age thinkers-or stinkers- ;D)
Objective reality.
Here is a thread it might help:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3925.0

This is about opinions and really fascinating. I learned a lot reading it.
This was one was very important step for me.
We collect and try to understand facts.
Facts:
- Millions of children are missing.
-War is going on.
There was no literally time in history in Earth when people were living in peace. Never Ever.
I was thinking about this many years. I have been told because "human nature". But which human? Indeed I could never kill anybody not even an animal.
But there are other species in this BBM in human form who can do it and have quiet pleasure in it.
Scary.
Children are missing. I feel pain coming through you your words. I feel for you if you have lost a child.
One who face with the reality can not just go on without feeling pain or anger or both.
I have the same feelings when I read news or see pictures of innocent victims of war, mostly children. I get angry.
I have been argue with God many times ask: Why? Why this has to happen?
Then I sincerely started to look for answers.
Read. Observe. Discern.
That's the way I do it.

 

[djewlew]

This is why this forum created to give help and advise people who reach out for help.
During my reading of the books especially esoteric books and psychological books I needed a lot of help.(still need help! ;))
Yes. We try to understand this world, why and how the people who ruling others(PTB) do whatever they do.
This was my first major understanding (against New Age thinkers-or stinkers- ;D)
Objective reality.
Here is a thread it might help:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=3925.0

This is about opinions and really fascinating. I learned a lot reading it.
This was one was very important step for me.
We collect and try to understand facts.
Facts:
- Millions of children are missing.
-War is going on.
There was no literally time in history in Earth when people were living in peace. Never Ever.
I was thinking about this many years. I have been told because "human nature". But which human? Indeed I could never kill anybody not even an animal.
But there are other species in this BBM in human form who can do it and have quiet pleasure in it.
Scary.
Children are missing. I feel pain coming through you your words. I feel for you if you have lost a child.
One who face with the reality can not just go on without feeling pain or anger or both.
I have the same feelings when I read news or see pictures of innocent victims of war, mostly children. I get angry.
I have been argue with God many times ask: Why? Why this has to happen?
Then I sincerely started to look for answers.
Read. Observe. Discern.
That's the way I do it.

Thank for your kind words. Appreciated. Missing children, that's a real-life issue. It is saturated with horror, pain and intense suffering. I wanted to post a thread with that topic here, but I don't know if it will be accepted. Maybe you can do it for me. "Missing Children: What Do You Do To Help?"

 

[anothermagyar]

[quote author=djewlew]I wanted to post a thread with that topic here, but I don't know if it will be accepted. Maybe you can do it for me. "Missing Children: What Do You Do To Help?"[/quote]
Hmmm.
I don't think this is a good idea.
First: this is YOUR idea and probably you have more data on this then me.
Second: We have been talked about missing children in this forum:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=5912.msg40691#msg40691

Here is another thought:
Are you reading "The Wave" series from author Laura Knight-Jadczyk? You can find A LOT of fascinating information and knowledge in there!
Why would you want somebody else using your idea?
There is no hurry. Just a thought.
You welcome to start a new topic!

 

[sid]

Hi djewlew

Referring back to the first post in this thread, you can try reading the Bringers of Dawn by Barbara Marciniak which goes more into the details of gods, the prime creator etc.

Cheers!

Sid