FamilyTreeNow.com Lists Past and Current Addresses of Living Americans for Free

Sinapi

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Hi all,

I thought it might be worth sharing this information on SOTT about this genealogy website called FamilyTreeNow.com, as I didn't see it discussed on either SOTT or the forum. One of my relatives told me about it and I saw all my past and current addresses, along with all my relatives and the records of people I may know. They draw info from US public records and list it for free on their website. The records don't go outside of the country as far as I know; I looked up Laura's name as a test and saw several addresses in Florida, but none from France. I think people should know about it because stalkers could easily use the website to find your personal info and that of your friends. There's an option to opt out, which I did, but as of now my addresses can be seen by anyone for free.

Here is the opt out link if anyone is interested: _http://www.familytreenow.com/optout

And here is an article about it from The Washington Post. Of course they allude that it could be used to target people who didn't vote for Trump :rolleyes:, but I think it's still a threat to personal safety. What do you all think?

_https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/01/12/youve-probably-never-heard-of-this-creepy-genealogy-site-but-its-heard-all-about-you/?utm_term=.efcbd6fd9175

You’ve probably never heard of this creepy genealogy site. But it knows a lot about you.
By Abby Ohlheiser January 12

Early Tuesday morning, Anna Brittain got a text from her sister: Did she know about Familytreenow.com? The relatively unknown site, which presents itself as a free genealogy resource, seemed to know an awful lot about her.

“The site listed my 3- and 5-year-olds as ‘possible associates,’ ” Brittain, a 30-year-old young-adult fiction writer in Birmingham, Ala., told The Washington Post on Tuesday. Her sister, a social worker who works at a child advocacy center, found the site while doing a regular Internet footprint checkup on herself. “Given the danger level of my sister’s occupation,” Brittain added, the depth of information available on the genealogy site “scared me to death.”

There are many “people search” sites and data brokers out there, like Spokeo, or Intelius, that also know a lot about you. This is not news, at least for the Internet-literate. And the information on FamilyTreeNow comes largely from the public records and other legally accessible sources that those other data brokers use. What makes FamilyTreeNow stand out on the creepy scale, though, is how easy the site makes it for anyone to access that information all at once, and free.

Profiles on FamilyTreeNow include the age, birth month, family members, addresses and phone numbers for individuals in their system, if they have them. It also guesses at their “possible associates,” all on a publicly accessible, permalink-able page. It’s possible to opt out, but it’s not clear whether doing so actually removes you from their records or (more likely) simply hides your record so it’s no longer accessible to the public.

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Unusually for a site like this, FamilyTreeNow doesn’t require a fee, or even the creation of an account, to access those detailed profiles (assuming, of course, that person hasn’t already opted out). Lexis Nexis, for instance, can also aggregate tons of public records to create an in-depth profile of a person. But that service is cost-prohibitive to most people who don’t have access to the site through an institutional subscription.

Sure, a free database aggregating thousands of U.S. public records could be beloved by genealogy hobbyists across the country. But the site is also extremely useful to those who might want to harass or physically harm someone else — and that, it seems, is what is freaking a lot of people out about it.

After reading the text from her sister, Brittain pulled up her own profile and immediately opted out of having her information included on the site. Then she composed tweets, warning others and providing detailed instructions on how to do the same. The top of her thread on FamilyTreeNow had thousands of retweets by the end of the day.

3) if you're a part of an online community, ESPECIALLY if you receive threats, take note. You need to opt out, and I'm going to tell you how

— Anna Brittain (@Almost_Anna) January 10, 2017

A similar warning about FamilyTreeNow also popped up on “Enough is Enough” and “Survive the Streets” this week, both popular Facebook groups about law enforcement officer safety. One post, which begins, “OFFICER SAFETY ALERT” warned that the site could be used by individuals who want to target the families of police officers. That post had more than 10,000 shares by Wednesday morning. As Snopes noted, the site doesn’t specifically note whether an individual is a member of law enforcement or not.

Several Washington Post reporters checked their own listings on the site in response to these warnings. The listings largely appeared to be thorough and accurate — although not perfect in every case.

My listing had accurate home addresses going back several years, my correct age and birth month, and links to the names, ages and profiles of my family members. It also flagged two “possible associates” for me, people who FamilyTreeNow believed might be connected to me somehow, based on its aggregation of public records. Those “possible associates” were my former roommate and my ex-boyfriend.

I also opted out; within an hour or so of doing that, my listing was no longer accessible. You can still see that there’s a listing for me on FamilyTreeNow when you search for my name, but it doesn’t actually let you click on it to learn more. It isn’t clear whether “opting out” eventually removes your personal information from their database, or whether it just prompts the site to block access to it.

If you’d like to opt out, by the way, go here and follow the steps. Some of my colleagues had trouble getting their opt-out requests to go through the first time; and it seems there’s a cap on how many records you can opt out in a single day. Others had trouble trying to get an opt-out to work on mobile and had to switch to desktop. The site said those listings will go away within 48 hours.

Opting out of FamilyTreeNow is a good start to any sort of Internet privacy checkup. But it’s worth noting that it’s just that: a start. There’s a lot more work you’d have to do to get control of your personal information on the Internet. Journalist Julia Angwin compiled an exhaustive list of all the data brokers she could find a couple of years ago, and tried to opt out of having her information included in each of their databases. Fewer than half of the 212 data brokers she identified accepted requests for opt-outs, she wrote in a blog post that gives detailed instructions on how to remove yourself from many of these services.

I tried to reach Dustin Weirich, the Sacramento-based entrepreneur who listed himself as the founder of FamilyTreeNow on his LinkedIn page and is the only manager listed in California public records for Family Tree Now LLC. I hoped that speaking to him would help me understand why this database was created in the first place.

But Weirich, or any representative of the site, did not respond to an emailed request for comment to multiple addresses associated with FamilyTreeNow or Weirich’s other listed businesses. One listed phone number for a business associated with Weirich went to a generic Google Voice voice mail; additional phone numbers listed for Weirich appeared to be disconnected. Over the course of Tuesday, Weirich’s LinkedIn page and FamilyTreeNow profiles also became inaccessible to the public.

Based on its Internet history and public records, the company appears to be a few years old. One complaint about its living people database goes back to 2015, for instance. The site has a Twitter account and a Facebook page, but both appear to have been inactive for some time.

Although FamilyTreeNow isn’t unique, the timing of Brittain’s warning about the site — along with the depth and accessibility of the information available there — really hit a nerve with a lot of people who saw it. One possible reason: “Twitter is a dangerous place right now for marginalized groups,” Brittain said. She’s seen it in the young-adult fiction community lately, where “women, minority groups, and marginalized people are targets of online abuse and threats almost daily, and this level of information could be particularly dangerous for them.”

“Perhaps,” she said, “the software engineers didn’t quite puzzle together the kind of monster they were creating.”

Brittain said that she’d gotten a lot of replies, particularly from people in their teens and early 20s expressing shock that it was even possible for people to access basic information like this. Her warning may have resonated, she guessed, because people are more on edge about online abuse right now.

“Online trolls have lurked around the underbelly of the Internet since ever,” she said, “but I’ve never seen anything like the online abuse targeted toward women, minority groups, and marginalized people than what I’ve witnessed since the election.”

[this post has been updated]

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Thanks for bringing it up. Unfortunately that is only for people in the US, but for them it could be a good way to discover the family history...
 
Thanks zlyja, publishing an individual's personal data online without consent is bang out of order... and IMO the website should be shut down.

Pashalis said:
Thanks for bringing it up. Unfortunately that is only for people in the US, but for them it could be a good way to discover the family history...
Pashalis, I think you may have missed the context of the article and the reason why zlyja brought up the topic. The point was to highlight the potential dangers of a platform like FamilyTreeNow advertising peoples personal data without their consent and how it infringes upon each individual's privacy.
 
Funny, they list me as still living in NPR, and they list a house I owned, but never lived in - it was a rental. And they actually did NOT list the two addresses I lived at the longest part of my life. So, a real dud of a site.
 
Thank you all for your thoughts!

Laura said:
Funny, they list me as still living in NPR, and they list a house I owned, but never lived in - it was a rental. And they actually did NOT list the two addresses I lived at the longest part of my life. So, a real dud of a site.

I wish it had been a dud in my case, but I'm glad that it was for your listing. I looked at several of my relatives and the current addresses have all been accurate, but before 2000 it gets a lot less accurate and not all addresses are listed. Sometimes they even manage to get the ages wrong, like saying my grandpa is 117! So if any members are currently living in the US I would recommend checking just to be sure. I hope they shut down the website, too.
 
Keyhole said:
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Pashalis, I think you may have missed the context of the article and the reason why zlyja brought up the topic. The point was to highlight the potential dangers of a platform like FamilyTreeNow advertising peoples personal data without their consent and how it infringes upon each individual's privacy.

Ohh... I did not read that, as well as the part on only being in the US. My bad...
 
I am glad to be alerted of this site and dismayed at its high accuracy when searching myself and my family. Some of us had been the first result too. The opt out seems to have worked after a couple hours.
 
There is also now this Ancestry (.ca or.com) site that seems to offer DNA tests and a spectrum result of ones ethnic background.

Something about this wide spread data collection that is strange. _https://www.ancestry.ca/dna/

Once you've taken your test, we'll search our global network of AncestryDNA members and identify the people who share your DNA. There's no limit to what you might discover—together
 
I also opted out yesterday and checked again today and they removed me, so at least they're pretty quick on the removal.

Thanks for bringing this up zlyja!
 
zlyja said:
Thank you all for your thoughts!

Laura said:
Funny, they list me as still living in NPR, and they list a house I owned, but never lived in - it was a rental. And they actually did NOT list the two addresses I lived at the longest part of my life. So, a real dud of a site.

I wish it had been a dud in my case, but I'm glad that it was for your listing. I looked at several of my relatives and the current addresses have all been accurate, but before 2000 it gets a lot less accurate and not all addresses are listed. Sometimes they even manage to get the ages wrong, like saying my grandpa is 117! So if any members are currently living in the US I would recommend checking just to be sure. I hope they shut down the website, too.

Same for me. However, my recent address is what I don't want spread around. Did the opt out just now so will check again to see if it was removed. There are too many depraved people out there who would use this site to find whom they wanted to locate.

Thanks for the links, Zlyja. Most of all the opt out link.
 
Mine was accurate with address and family members. I opted out last night and my record is gone now.
 
Thanks for the heads up on this site, Zlyja, particularly the opt out link!

I found a couple of records on me, but what is interesting is that I was initially able to opt of only one - I think that was because it matched my search exactly. The one that was most detailed had a misspelling in my middle name and when I clicked on it, I could not opt out.

I went back to the site today and input search terms (with the misspelling) to exactly match the record I wanted to delete and was then able to opt out.
 
Funny, I cannot find myself listed. Could this be due to the fact that my parents migrated here? I'm doubtful about using that explaination, but I can't think of any other reason why I won't be listed. I mean, it's definitely a blessing, but I find it curious.

It would be helpful to know if any other 1st gerneration Americans have any luck finding themeseleves.
 
Nienna said:
3D Student said:
Mine was accurate with address and family members. I opted out last night and my record is gone now.

So is mine! :)

Me to. Plus the last three previous locations with correct dates, of the arrivals, and the departures of each nest.
 
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