Fatal Accident a Sign?

[Laura]

Good lord, he must have been traveling unbelievably fast for the car to have done that, not just ‘get home a bit quicker’ speed but insanely fast.

Must have been pretty shocking being so close to home. I’m glad you guys are safe, I think it’s kind of symbolic that ‘nothing major got through the fence’. Still, a chilling and horrible way to get a message if that’s what it is.

"Insanely fast" is about the conclusion that everyone is coming to at this point. Even with the skid marks on the road, he took out the kiwis you see in the photo AND went airborne. I think the estimate is about 180 KMH just before the braking which took the car out of control. The place is right after a rather gentle curve in the road so he may have come around that, saw something, like a deer, and slammed on his brakes on a wet road and that was it. (It was raining.)

Laura, I remember you talking about the ghost you saw some time back. Did you say he was wearing some kind of military jacket?

Yes.

Those are tire tracks on the 3d photo right? If that is so, it means that he traveled considerable length in parallel to the road, in straight line, and only turned to the right shortly before crash. It could explain how the car ended there, but it would still be very weird and very improbable for it to have happened the way it did, I think.

Those tracks are made in the soft, wet ground by the tow truck that went in to get the car and pull it out. The wrecked car only made all that damage to the kiwis on the right of that photo. See it again here:

Tracks on the left made by wrecker. Fallen kiwis (and row-end posts) on the right mowed down by car. What is horrifying is that, after the first 3 or 4 rows of damaged kiwis, there is NO sign of the car on the ground until it comes to rest in the ditch. That means he was airborne.

There were intense black skid marks on the road before the car went off into the ditch which means he braked strongly. Then, when he hit the ditch parallel to the road sideways it must have flipped him over, changed the trajectory, and he rolled through the kiwis, then flipped again into the air before landing in the final ditch. That last flip covered about 20 meters of distance that there were no marks on the ground, so he was in the air for that distance and then the momentum must have been mostly downward because the damage to the power pole is minimal. I guess while he was flying to the final impact, he was thrown from the car. I haven't heard whether or not his seat-belt was fastened. His battery also flew out of the car and was on the side of the road. Even if we had gone outside to look, there would have been no power to the lights or anything to draw us to the location and it's a big place to search for a noise in the middle of the night.

Considering that it happened exactly 10 years after Columbia incident which was meant as warning to Bush from PTB according to C's, if I'm not mistaken, then is it possible that this was warning too, but this time meant for Laura and the crew?

Just my thoughts. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think that we are anywhere near the same level as Bush and Co in terms of needing "warnings". Also note that the car did not come onto our property; it stopped at the "moat" and power pole.

We sent flowers to the family late yesterday. Ya'll don't need to worry about the family. This is France, remember? He was local and the community is looking after things.

 

[Aya]

This incident remined of me the guy who died in front of our house's drive way from having an heart attack in the three weeks ago. That happened also in the morning and I was so shocked to see the old man lying on a street cold and unconscious.

These are terrible things to wake up to...

But this accident indeed looks like a Sign from the cosmo - looke at those pictures - when, where and how it happened, it is very unusual and incredible.

What is horrifying is that, after the first 3 or 4 rows of damaged kiwis, there is NO sign of the car on the ground until it comes to rest in the ditch. That means he was airborne.

Wow..

I am sorry for the guy. Please take care and stay safe.

 

[ggen]

My thoughts are with you Laura, and all of the Chateaux Family. :) Like everyone else, the possible baby made my heart lurch. Seems the chaotic way this accident occurred is symbolic in it's own right. There's a car completely mangled with all it's items and driver just strewn about. I really hope the driver didn't suffer, geez. The questions are numerous in my mind about meaning. Military and all 'those' possibilities. A tired and intoxicated driver falls asleep and he heavy footed the accelerater? Wowza!

I'm curious to know what you all might find out. In the meantime, take vigilant care.

 

[Gaby]

But this accident indeed looks like a Sign from the cosmo - looke at those pictures - when, where and how it happened, it is very unusual and incredible.

It is truly bizarre, whatever that might mean. At least it is known that he didn't suffer and that the family is been looked for. Going at that kind of incredible speed, he could not have fallen asleep behind the wheel, or so it seems to me! From the pictures, it just doesn't add up even if the road was slippery by rain or ice.

Be extra aware and take good care!

 

[Gwenllian]

This is uncanny, OSIT. This thread has shaken me up a little.

What a terrible way to go and the young man leaves a wife and two young kids. The pictures show utter devastation.

Some thoughts, not sure whether they mean something.
A few days ago we had the military parked here for some time (at least for an hour), tanks and jeeps, and at one point one man was even firing blanks. They were only a few metres away from my home. I still do not know why they were there in the first place. No exercise had been planned, AFAIK.
When I inspected their tracks I saw that they had driven their jeep right next to our fence. Even the lorries that drive past do not get that close. The grass is really soggy now.

These past few weeks I have been thinking about car accidents on a regular basis. My house is next (very close) to a road and some people drive really fast and furiously, like kamikazes. As if they wish to kill themselves or others. A couple of days ago I also had this image of a man landing in a ditch (my house is also surrounded by ditches). And a feeling that something bad might happen to you, Laura.
I don't think it is a question of hindsight bias.
FWIW.

All the best to you at the chateau and to all of you. Take care and pay attention.

 

[Chu]

What is strange also is how come they suspect that there was a baby missing? The accident happened at night, how come they thought the military guy had a baby in his car? It is like this military guy was fleeing something or somebody. What is very amazing is the furiosity of the accident in a quiet road in the middle of the night.

They thought the baby was in the car because there were two baby seats, one of them with the seat belt attached, and close to the car. The second one ended at the opposite side of the road, and there were the young man's belongings and parts of the car scattered all over the place, including in our property. No need to assume he was fleeing either. He was on the roadback home. He could have had a hundred reasons for driving with a baby at that time. Some people do that, and that early in the investigation, they didn't know that he had been drinking (it's not even confirmed now as far as we know), or that the children were at home.

 

[Serendipity]

Those tracks are made in the soft, wet ground by the tow truck that went in to get the car and pull it out. The wrecked car only made all that damage to the kiwis on the right of that photo. See it again here:

I don't think that we are anywhere near the same level as Bush and Co in terms of needing "warnings". Also note that the car did not come onto our property; it stopped at the "moat" and power pole.

I see. Then the symbolism it comes to my mind is that the danger and death are very near, even at the doorstep.
And also the fence and the ditch might be symbols for protection in form of knowledge and awareness.

 

[Pierre]

Based on the various data, we've tried to reconstitute how the crash occurred. Here is a schematic that might help understand what happened.

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The ditch is drawn in blue its about 2 meters wide and 1.5 meters deep. There's about 30 cm of water in the ditches.
The road is in yellow, it's mostly straight, it's wide and slightly wet.
The rows of kiwi trees are green lines. Only the eleven last ones are represented. One kiwi tree is about 2.5 meters tall and 2 meters in circumference. - Row number 1 is the closest to our property (very right), row 2 is on the left of row 1,...
The ground of the kiwi field is very wet, muddy, partly covered with patches of grass.
The limits of our park are indicated by the thin red lines
The vehicle is represented by the orange rectangle. The orange arrow shows the front of the vehicle.
The red star indicate the location of the drivers' corpse. It's about ten meters from the car. The head is pointing towards the car.

140 meters from final impact: The car is on the road, it is coming from the left. It's 1.12 a.m., the driver is a 32 y.o. soldier, father of 3 little girls. He's driving back from the barrack where he had some beers. A few beers or a lot of beers? It's unknown yet. He's now 6 km from the barracks and less than 2 kilometers from his house. The road is a bit wet, after a gentle curve the car passes a big tree. There's no mark and no debris on the tree.

120 meters from final impact: Braking marks on the right side of the road, the marks continue in the field (wet grass and mud) and then in the ditch. The marks are about 25 meters long. There are 3 marks, so the car is slipping sideways. The braking is maximal (pieces of tarmac are torn away from the road and projected towards the right of the diagram). At this point the driver is awake, he's braking violently.

100 meters from final impact: After driving for several meters inside the ditch (about 2 meters wide and 1.5 meters deep) the front of the car violently hits the opposite bank of the ditch. The impact on the ground is massive. A lot of dirt is removed/compressed. Numerous debris including bumpers, plastic engine protection fly around.

70 meters from final impact: Not one single tire mark or body mark or impact on the ground or on the kiwis for 30 meters (100 meter to 70 meters before final location). After the first massive impact against the bank of the ditch the car seems to have heavily "rebounded" and literally flown (while rotating?) in the air for 30 meters. Then the car lands heavily: it destroys the very end of the 7th row of kiwi trees. About 4 meters above (on the diagram) the damaged kiwi tree, are two big impacts in the ground. The car is about 4.50 meters long, so we can assume that at this point the axis of the car and its trajectory are almost perpendicular. This is a typical tumbling situation.

From this point to the final location the car (probably) tumbles. Each of the 7 rows of kiwi, are destroyed over 3 to 5 meters. Most trees and posts are cut at the level of the ground, which means that the car was tumbling on the ground but for row 2 and 3 (row 1 being on the very right) the trees are cut/damaged about 1 meter above the ground, so the car has rebounded once more while keeping tumbling and "flew" about 1 meter high over rows 2 and 3.

final impact: Finally the car heavily hits the right bank (on the diagram) of the ditch and the telephone post. Impacts marks are found on the post and in the bank. Debris will be found more than 30 meters inside our park. The concrete fence post (square section of about 10 centimeters) next to the telephone post was broken during the final impact.

So after 25 meters of emergency breaking, at least two massive impacts (at 100 and 70 meters), a 30 meters flight, numerous tumbles, breaking 20+ trees and tutoring posts, the car still had enough energy to seriously impact the telephone post, break one phone post and eject equipment 30 meters away (including a 1-pound boot piston, a cigarette lighter and pieces of windscreen).

Clearly the car was going very very fast. But was the speed the cause of the accident or just an aggravating factor?

Did a wild animal cross the road? Did he try to avoid another driver? Did alcohol make him mis-evaluate space, speed and trajectories? Did a mechanical part suddenly break? Was he on the phone and realized too late he was dangerously drifting to the right?

Will we ever know? In any case, I hope the doctor was not right when he said death occurred around 7 am. I can't imagine this poor guy agonizing alone in the dark for 6 endless hours in this freezing cold ditch.

 

[Cyre2067]

Did a wild animal cross the road? Did he try to avoid another driver? Did alcohol make him mis-evaluate space, speed and trajectories? Did a mechanical part suddenly break? Was he on the phone and realized too late he was dangerously drifting to the right?

Maybe Laura could ask the C's the next time she does a session, assuming it's important to know. The fact that it happened kinda speaks for itself...

 

[Guardian]

Did a wild animal cross the road? Did he try to avoid another driver? Did alcohol make him mis-evaluate space, speed and trajectories? Did a mechanical part suddenly break?

Did the car happen to be a Toyota? I was just thinking of the uncontrolled acceleration problem with certain Toyota that has never been explained.

 

[Pierre]

Did a wild animal cross the road? Did he try to avoid another driver? Did alcohol make him mis-evaluate space, speed and trajectories? Did a mechanical part suddenly break?

Did the car happen to be a Toyota? I was just thinking of the uncontrolled acceleration problem with certain Toyota that has never been explained.

No it was a Renault (a French brand). Actually, the car ended its trajectory a few meters from a Renault sign which is installed above the horizontal ditch (see diagram) at the top left corner of our property. Actually we had the very same car (same model, same body paint, same alloy wheels, same engine) parked on our property a few days ago (a visiting body-worker).

 

[Guardian]

Actually we had the very same car (same model, same body paint, same alloy wheels, same engine) parked on our property a few days ago (a visiting body-worker).

Now that's kind of an odd coincidence?

 

[happyliza]

Was this an accident black spot in the past? If it is a quiet road then at that time doubtful if he was blinded by oncoming headlights.

You would brake suddenly if you saw what 'appeared' to be a human (in military jacket) suddenly ahead of you, and then swerve to miss'it'.
If so it could start a spate of such accidents.


On a different note, unusual for here was seeing two low flying fighter jets around midday yesterday. Flying west to east over the med - about 200 meters out to sea. Could not see if turkish 'training' or another country's planes. But headed towards Syria.

Lost my boyfriendin similar crash 2009 - again raining, speed. But the Honda Civic Saloon- new - had very bad road handling which I experienced. That was verified by another lady who also had one.
There was a long straight road and slight bend - like your diagram.
Doubt if aquaplaned as those are serous brake marks.

 

[angelburst29]

Very sorry to hear of the accident and the emotional shock of having to deal with the after-effects of the incident.

The feeling I'm getting from reading the reports, is that, he probably died instantly from a head injury at the "100 meter mark from final impact" when the car violently hit the opposite back of the ditch. The weight of his body (against the gas peddle) accelertated, thrusting the car in an upward motion (airborne) until he was ejected from the vehicle and it came to an abrupt stop in the ditch between the telephone pole and concrete fense post.

Considering, it's stated, he was a 32 y.o. father of three little girls, a military soldier and coming from the barracks, I'm assumming he's - active duty? Depending on his rank and service duty experiance, it might be another avenue to explore, especially with France's recent war adventures overseas?

"A few beers or a lot of beers? It's unknown yet." Could be "beer's" or something else or a combination? Alot of stupid stuff going on in the military, lately? Mystery abounds! Could it be "why" in a hyperdementional sense, the accident scene stopped at the border's of the Chateau? Who better to investigate - all angles - to get at the truth?

And, it might be mind treats on my side but RU353535 came to mind (32 y.o. and 3 little girls). That session spoke of "Aquarius in Febuary as the Spiritual Man and Yin Yang." It was first reported, that members of the Chateau were alerted to something around 1:10 AM but were unable to detect anything. 11 is a power number (Divine Power?) Maybe, I'm seeing something that not there, entirely? But it's a thought.

As for the ghost, could be an imprint from another time that surfaces occasionally? Or a protective sentry?

I wonder, if a back history was ever gathered on the Chateau property and if metal detectors and divining rods were ever used, to detect energy grids and magnetic poles? A family member found two fresh water springs in the process on their property which were shallow enough to installl hand pumps. Fool - sold it!

If I remember correctly, only a short time after they moved in, the Chateau property and structures suffered immense damage, after a storm with Hurricane winds went through their section. No one was seriously hurt but the clean up and repair was staggering. Old family myth on my father's side would suggest "the land had been cleansed of negative energy" to be replaced with creative energy and new growth. I think, the Chateau and it's residents and it's on-going work is part and parcel of that new beginning and very much protected.


Mod: bold type corrected

 

[angelburst29]

Sorry for the bold type? I only meant to highlight, "A few beers or alot of beers? It's unknow yet"