Father Kills Pedophile Molesting his Daughter

[Lilou]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/11/father-kills-man-who-sexually-abused-daughter-texas_n_1587724.html?ref=crime&icid=maing-grid7%7Ccompaq-laptop%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D168967

A father walked in on an acquaintance while he was attempting to molest his 4 year old daughter. The father beat the man to death by hitting him in the head, repeatedly. So far, Texas is not filing any charges. It will be interesting to see if the grand jury brings an indictment.

The way I see it, it's one less perv on the streets. If they bring charges against this man, I think people will be in an absolute uproar, like they were in the Trayvon Martin case. There are far too many of these perverts walking around. It's just plain sick and disgusting.

 

[melatonin]

As a victim of abuse as a child, i feel as much outrage as the next person when i read stuff like this. Will be intresting to see what evidence is needed in future cases though, if it sets a precedent.
I say this because in extreme trauma/abuse the abusers often set-up someone else to be the fall-guy, by brain-washing the child.
Its a shame (understatement) things arent much simpler.

 

[loreta]

I think he did good. How can you abuse a child of 4 years? How this is possible! If a pedophile would do the same to my daughter maybe I would kill him. Because how can you abuse a child of 4 years and be free? You are a parasite if you do things like that.

 

[Jones]

:( for that little girl. Not only has she been abused but also possibly witnessed an act of extreme violence. I hope that she will understand that none of it is her fault.

 

[Laura]

:( for that little girl. Not only has she been abused but also possibly witnessed an act of extreme violence. I hope that she will understand that none of it is her fault.

I can sure understand the reaction. I just hope he had his wits about him enough to put the child out of the way first. Geezus, witnessing something like that could so grossly compound the damage of the molestation that I just can't imagine it! Indeed, children need to know that there is someone who is their advocate, their protector, but they should not be made to feel responsible for the death of someone else.

 

[forge]

I think he did good. How can you abuse a child of 4 years? How this is possible! If a pedophile would do the same to my daughter maybe I would kill him. Because how can you abuse a child of 4 years and be free? You are a parasite if you do things like that.

If you have or somebody in the family has a young child, do not leave it in the care of a male acquaintance or kin for babysitting no matter how good you know them. Trust women only. I would be extremely wary during "guest visits" and family come together events and would not let my even child be touched by males appearing surprisingly kind, "fatherly", amiable toward the child and young or older males amazingly "good with children". These males can seemingly play well and seem very well understand children - especially if the child is 3-4 years young. I saw two teenagers 12 and 14 years of age during my career, who seemed super-good with children, turned out to be dangerous sexual-psychopaths, like the one killed in this case. They have always found the young to corrupt.

 

[melatonin]

Trust women only? Wow, what a narrow minded view.

My mother was one of my primary abusers, and my bigger family is full of abusive females married to 'nice' guys. Women are just as capable as men of abuse, especially emotional/physcological abuse.

 

[Thomas Alan]

Trust women only? Wow, what a narrow minded view.

My mother was one of my primary abusers, and my bigger family is full of abusive females married to 'nice' guys. Women are just as capable as men of abuse, especially emotional/physcological abuse.

Indeed. My mother probably wasn't a psychopath, but she was extremely mechanical. When my dad wasn't there she was very abusive. I kept hoping my dad would help me but he seemed oblivious to what was going on.

A woman two houses from us tried to seduce me when I was 11 years old.

Women can be very dangerous. It's part of why I didn't have kids of my own. I didn't feel I could protect them.

Mac

 

[loreta]

I think he did good. How can you abuse a child of 4 years? How this is possible! If a pedophile would do the same to my daughter maybe I would kill him. Because how can you abuse a child of 4 years and be free? You are a parasite if you do things like that.

If you have or somebody in the family has a young child, do not leave it in the care of a male acquaintance or kin for babysitting no matter how good you know them. Trust women only. I would be extremely wary during "guest visits" and family come together events and would not let my even child be touched by males appearing surprisingly kind, "fatherly", amiable toward the child and young or older males amazingly "good with children". These males can seemingly play well and seem very well understand children - especially if the child is 3-4 years young. I saw two teenagers 12 and 14 years of age during my career, who seemed super-good with children, turned out to be dangerous sexual-psychopaths, like the one killed in this case. They have always found the young to corrupt.

I never understood how a parent can leave his child with people other than a sister or a parent. This is something that I don't understand. I don't have children and one of the reason is because I am very suspicious of this world and their human kind. Surely if I would have been a mother I would have been very, very hysterical. And I know this is not good for the child. But sometimes I see parents completely unaware of the dangers that their child can live. This world is so crazy.

 

[melatonin]

Trust women only? Wow, what a narrow minded view.

My mother was one of my primary abusers, and my bigger family is full of abusive females married to 'nice' guys. Women are just as capable as men of abuse, especially emotional/physcological abuse.

Indeed. My mother probably wasn't a psychopath, but she was extremely mechanical. When my dad wasn't there she was very abusive. I kept hoping my dad would help me but he seemed oblivious to what was going on.

A woman two houses from us tried to seduce me when I was 11 years old.

Women can be very dangerous. It's part of why I didn't have kids of my own. I didn't feel I could protect them.

Mac

I would never trust a mother with my children either Mac, which is why ive never had any either.
(I guess this is backed up by the fact that my Dad failed to see the traits in my mum, and protect me)

People will point toward statistics which will prove how many more men are perps of sexual abuse - which tells only one side of the story.
Far harder to prove physcological abuse, and males who are victims of sexual abuse by women as a child are far less likely to report it. (Its not a 'manly' thing to do, and it probably didnt involve physical restraint, but emotional manipulation, which makes it seem far less serious)

Edited - Added the top two lines.

 

[Thomas Alan]

I've thinking about this story the past few days. Of course, we will never know what the full circumstances were. The father was likely trapped in his own programs as are we all.

My first impulse on reading the story was, if I came upon a crime like that, yeah, I would want to take a ball bat to the guy. Like stomping a roach in the kitchen.

But, as Laura points out, this would further traumatize the child. Not only had she been brutally used but she will have witnessed someone violently killed as well. Plus she might loose her dad as well if he is sent to prison. Killing the perpetrator on the spot could be indulging ones own anger rather than helping the child in a moment of great need.

If one could hold ones anger and outrage, the first thing would be to comfort the child beginning the process of helping her heal. Try to keep her from blaming herself for what happened. She needs to be loved and accepted in this moment.

Then relate to the authorities what happened. Hopefully, this piece of filth would be put away for awhile where he couldn't harm another child. But you never know these days.

Mac

 

[loreta]

I've thinking about this story the past few days. Of course, we will never know what the full circumstances were. The father was likely trapped in his own programs as are we all.

My first impulse on reading the story was, if I came upon a crime like that, yeah, I would want to take a ball bat to the guy. Like stomping a roach in the kitchen.

But, as Laura points out, this would further traumatize the child. Not only had she been brutally used but she will have witnessed someone violently killed as well. Plus she might loose her dad as well if he is sent to prison. Killing the perpetrator on the spot could be indulging ones own anger rather than helping the child in a moment of great need.

If one could hold ones anger and outrage, the first thing would be to comfort the child beginning the process of helping her heal. Try to keep her from blaming herself for what happened. She needs to be loved and accepted in this moment.

Then relate to the authorities what happened. Hopefully, this piece of filth would be put away for awhile where he couldn't harm another child. But you never know these days.

Mac

But, since when the authorities make justice in cases like this one? Since when they put in jail the pedophiles? When you have read the Marc Dutroux article you are aware of the situation: there is no justice concerning the pedophiles. These people are free because they are part of the system. The question is very delicate. What is good, what is bad? Personally I don't have the answer.

 

[anart]

I think he did good. How can you abuse a child of 4 years? How this is possible! If a pedophile would do the same to my daughter maybe I would kill him. Because how can you abuse a child of 4 years and be free? You are a parasite if you do things like that.

If you have or somebody in the family has a young child, do not leave it in the care of a male acquaintance or kin for babysitting no matter how good you know them. Trust women only. I would be extremely wary during "guest visits" and family come together events and would not let my even child be touched by males appearing surprisingly kind, "fatherly", amiable toward the child and young or older males amazingly "good with children". These males can seemingly play well and seem very well understand children - especially if the child is 3-4 years young. I saw two teenagers 12 and 14 years of age during my career, who seemed super-good with children, turned out to be dangerous sexual-psychopaths, like the one killed in this case. They have always found the young to corrupt.

forge, that's ridiculous. Decent men do exist. Indecent women exist. How is a child supposed to learn to bond with men if he/she is shielded from interacting with any of them? The Law of Three, forge - do you remember it?

 

[Approaching Infinity]

But, since when the authorities make justice in cases like this one? Since when they put in jail the pedophiles? When you have read the Marc Dutroux article you are aware of the situation: there is no justice concerning the pedophiles. These people are free because they are part of the system. The question is very delicate. What is good, what is bad? Personally I don't have the answer.

I don't think the situation is so black and white. There are PLENTY of pedophiles in prison. Many are protected (especially if they're part of a power structure), I don't think it's true that there is 'no' justice concerning pedophiles. It depends on the situation.

 

[forge]

@melatonin My mother was is the major abuser in the family. Definitely would arrange that my mother sees her grandchildren as little as possible in person and NOT touching them at all[not because of this topics subject, simply esoteric reasoning]. Short correspondences at most. There are a lot of "of courses" on this topic: i would now leave my children (if i had any) without thinking in the care of my late grandmother. The difference between the two women was night and day.

I think he did good. How can you abuse a child of 4 years? How this is possible! If a pedophile would do the same to my daughter maybe I would kill him. Because how can you abuse a child of 4 years and be free? You are a parasite if you do things like that.

If you have or somebody in the family has a young child, do not leave it in the care of a male acquaintance or kin for babysitting no matter how good you know them. Trust women only. I would be extremely wary during "guest visits" and family come together events and would not let my even child be touched by males appearing surprisingly kind, "fatherly", amiable toward the child and young or older males amazingly "good with children". These males can seemingly play well and seem very well understand children - especially if the child is 3-4 years young. I saw two teenagers 12 and 14 years of age during my career, who seemed super-good with children, turned out to be dangerous sexual-psychopaths, like the one killed in this case. They have always found the young to corrupt.

forge, that's ridiculous. Decent men do exist. Indecent women exist. How is a child supposed to learn to bond with men if he/she is shielded from interacting with any of them? The Law of Three, forge - do you remember it?

Pondering on how to resolve the consequences of abuse in the past - from the perspective of the Law of Three - I can only see one way out. There was even a podcast about it with the priest talking about transformation of torture victims. So i could figure only this:

In the torrents of fire, flood or violent earthquake mechanical humanity may have a chance to understand all Three Forces at the moment of becoming a martyr - extreme suffering - ,reaching the transformation-stage of the torture-victim. People were reported to change at that stage in the podcast. Without extreme suffering however I can see no change, no way out for this society. Remembering increasing entropy nowadays, i think this society strongly needs and attracts extreme suffering by cataclysm.

I'm only different from mechanical people of having studied the Laws of the Work to a degree and understanding some little, I am willing to follow to an extent.

Therefore:
As consequences of abuse in the past, strikingly similar to the events of the topic article without the killing - i'm willing to move toward the middle of the Pendulum by not swinging to the extreme.

Not carrying out fully what the Father did. Making our pedophile abuser*, - conceptually of course in the sphere of thought revolving about this topic -, (he being alive and well and not having been seen court yet regards his many numerous sexual abuses i know of), *so leaving him perfectly able to think (head unchanged) but rearranging his body, all tendons joints and bones to never be used again so that he lives on, and experiencing his changed physical state all the time for long long years.

I cannot accept the judges authority - Holy Reconciling Third force - yet. Where a

* plaintiff and defendant have their case resolved only through a judge.
* Flour and water become bread only when bonded by fire.

I can't make bread here yet.
Unable to reconcile, just as my signature shows.