Films I like

Jason (ocean59) said:
And it most certainly does not fit in with the subject 'Films related to cassiopaea' osit.
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True. I changed the title of the thread and moved it to 'movies'.
 
Jason (ocean59) said:
I'd really only recommend the film Requiem for a Dream for one of two reasons (I've seen it about 3 times, and have long since refused to ever watch it again):

1 - If you or someone you know if thinking about trying heroin, this film should be watched first by that person.
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Actually, after reading Redirect, I'd question even that. It seems shock/scare tactics don't do very well to discourage people from such activities. They tend to just reinforce one category of people in their own motivations not to use drugs (leading to a lot of self-reports suggesting that the tactics actually work, when they don't - those people wouldn't have done the drugs in the first place). But for those who are really at risk, it just convinces them (or their unconscious) that they really ARE at risk of doing drugs. What actually works is to approach it from the side, not directly. E.g., by doing volunteer work, they come to see themselves as integral members of society, and thus acquire new motivations and personal narratives about themselves.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Actually, after reading Redirect, I'd question even that. It seems shock/scare tactics don't do very well to discourage people from such activities. They tend to just reinforce one category of people in their own motivations not to use drugs (leading to a lot of self-reports suggesting that the tactics actually work, when they don't - those people wouldn't have done the drugs in the first place). But for those who are really at risk, it just convinces them (or their unconscious) that they really ARE at risk of doing drugs. What actually works is to approach it from the side, not directly. E.g., by doing volunteer work, they come to see themselves as integral members of society, and thus acquire new motivations and personal narratives about themselves.
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I haven't yet read Redirect, but after reading a few of the threads in the Cognitive Psychology board, it really makes sense, considering that we seem to be wired to go round and round in circles with our narratives about ourself, like in a closed, entropic system. This gives the concept of being trapped in the matrix, or being confined in one's subjective bubble, a very concrete meaning.

And I agree about the film 'Requiem for a Dream', I had to stop watching it after about 20 minutes - watching it with keeping the orientation of the bigger picture in mind didn't help (I'm refering to what the Cs said in one session, to be very careful about what to let into one's system and that negative stuff should be handled with awareness). It was just too much to bear, and interesting to be reading about your corresponding viewpoints here today.
 
I highly recommend "The Company Men"(2010) with Ben Afflick, Tommy Lee Jones, Chris Cooper and Kevin Costner. No other movie I've seen in years ("Up in the Air", "Glengarry Glen Ross") shows the realism and betrayal of employees in corporate downsizing and the cascading financial disaster quite like this. It brought back all the painful emotions of the day I was, long ago, fired from a large company and before I went to work for myself.
 
"MEETINGS WITH REMARKABLE MEN" (1979) Dir. Peter Brook


Based in book of Gurdjieff adapted by Jeanne de Salzmann
music by Thomas de Hartmann.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Jgk1pNMus


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii3kwwry6Lg&feature=endscreen&NR=1
 
MOEBIUS (Argentina) 1996 Dir:Gustavo Mosquera.Based in the short story: "A subway named moebius"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH7JBg0POUw&feature=related
 
anart said:
carlise said:
I have not seen Requiem for a Dream so I can't really say much, however these comments have got me interested. Could it not sometimes be beneficial to see the darker side of life (especially when one is searching for objectivity)?
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It's interesting that what has been said has 'interested you'. Why is that? Also, this is not about avoiding the dark side of life, this is about observing the fact that exposing oneself to psychic slime and emotional violence as a form of entertainment is hardly beneficial. Such things can be endured and seen for what they are, but, honestly, to spend two hours exposing oneself to what amounts to a psychological/emotional cesspool is questionable at best. But, that is, of course, my personal take and if you're interested, then I suppose that's up to you.
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I did not see the movie and will not see it. Some movies is better not seeing them. I NOT RECOMMEND L'homme qui voulait savoir, a French/Neerland movie that made me obsessed during days. And I NOT RECOMMEND ILS, a very misterious movie that make me freak during weeks.

I ask myself: why make movies that make suffer the spectator? Why? Usually they are well done with good actors. But what is the objective of the director? To manipulate our minds? Why? Do the director needs our sufferance as energy?

So please, please, don't try to look those two movies. Even if ILS is based on a true story and even if it is a French movie...you will suffer. And cinema is an art, not hell.
 
caballero reyes said:
Based on the novel by Stanislaw Lam.
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I take it you meant Stanislaw Lem: _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_(novel)
I wouldn't have mentioned this, were it not for the fact that there also exists a Polish writer called Stanislaw Lam: _http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanisław_Lam
The Solaris movie by Tarkovsky was one of my favorites too.
There is also an American remake directed by Steven Soderbergh, which I haven't seen. See: _http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307479/
 
Palinurus said:
caballero reyes said:
Based on the novel by Stanislaw Lam.
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I take it you meant Stanislaw Lem: _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_(novel)
I wouldn't have mentioned this, were it not for the fact that there also exists a Polish writer called Stanislaw Lam: _http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanisław_Lam
The Solaris movie by Tarkovsky was one of my favorites too.
There is also an American remake directed by Steven Soderbergh, which I haven't seen. See: _http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0307479/
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We are looking Solaris by parts (it is a long movie) my husband and I these days. This movie, by Tarkovsky, is the favorite of my husband. I saw the movie 4 or 5 times and like the others movies by the Russian director, I think it is a master piece. But I still don't understand clearly all the movie. Maybe I have to read the book, that is in my pile of books, waiting. ;) Is it a movie about conscience? About how mind works? And more than that. What do you think? I love the movies about Tarkovsky, they all put me in a meditative mind.
 
anart said:
...I found The Fountain to be far too newagey for me - very disappointing, actually and not worth the watch. I found 'Requiem for a Dream' to be a horrific film - and I'm not exaggerating. It's an emotionally manipulative pain-fest and a film that I truly wish I had never seen. fwiw.
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I just am catching up here. I can't remember now what I thought about The Fountain, which seems to say something about it. Occasionally I watch films like that to help take my mind off of work for a while. This one apparently did help with that.

As for the 'wish I had never seen' genre, I am finding that sometimes it can actually be enjoyable to hit 'eject', stick them back in the envelope, and put them in the mail. If I sometimes misjudge a good movie, too bad.
 
caballero reyes said:
SOLARIS(Russia) 1972 Dir:Andrei Tarkovsky. Based on the novel by Stanislaw Lem.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcglyhUre4w
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"Stalker" by the same director is a must see. Very well directed and philosophical. Don't think I've ever seen somebody be that creative with a camera.

Other recommendations:

12 Angry Men: Study in human nature and the court system.

Network: Satire of television.

Brazil: Futuristic dystopia.

The Matrix and Dark City: Dealing with the themes of simulation and hidden control.

Regarding Requiem For A Dream, if you're not faint hearted the musical score in that film is worth the admission alone.
 
POWER TRIP (Rep. of Georgia/ U.S.A.) 2003 Dir.Paul Devlin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPGKgo7WkVQ


POWER TRIP--ROSE REVOLUTION.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9k2L7rzC0E&feature=related
 
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