fine articles

webglider said:
Okay, so now that I have been introduced to the concept that much of what I perceive is a code for something else, the need to develop new tools to crack a code I didn't suspect existed becomes that much more urgent.
Sorry about that... it seems my analogy wasn't appropriate. There's no "code" as such - I was just making a "Matrix" reference. Perhaps the following C's session will clarify what I meant:

C's session 96-07-14 said:
Q: (L) Let's boil it down. Was Hitler's agenda a practice run for a future scenario?
A: Close. Was a "testing" of the will.
Q: (L) Whose will was being tested?
A: Yours.
Q: (L) Me specifically, or the planet?
A: Latter.
Q: (L) In terms of this scenario, is there some lesson that we can learn about what may or may not occur through this book I have mentioned?
A: Maybe, but suggest you learn to blend mosaic consciousness.
Q: (L) What is mosaic consciousness?
A: Thinking in internally spherical terms, rather than using linear "point blank" approach. The whole picture is seen by seeing the whole scene.
Q: (L) Well, I guess that is why I guess I get into so many thought patterns...
A: Picture yourself as being at the center of a mosaic.
Q: (MM) [Incomprehensible comment about mosaics being under repair somewhere.] (L) Okay, I know what you are saying, but I just don't think that there is any way I can DO this!
A: Yes you can!
Q: (L) Okay. Okay. This whole situation, this Polish connection, this German connection, the American and alien things, the soldier/Nephilim thing, these are all manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing, am I correct?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And some of the manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing are that some people graduate or transition to 4th density, that their awareness changes, everything changes, the playing field is leveled. So, what happened in Germany was a 'practice run' but what is going to happen is that the 'playing field' is going to be leveled, so it will not be exactly the same scenario, is this a correct assessment?
A: Maybe. Alright, my dear, you want the facts, so we will give them to you, and hopefully you will comprehend. If not now, then when necessary maybe... Fact one: All there is -- is lessons. Fact two: this is one big school. Fact three: Timing as you perceive it, is never, NEVER definite. Fact four: What is to happen, as you state it, is a ways off, and will not occur until you have reached that point on the learning cycle, and you are not close yet. Now ponder before more facts are given!!
I see Laura's "Secret History of the World" as being like a written example of "mosaic consciousness". There are threads from all sorts of scientific areas - history, archeology, paleontology, dendrochronology, geology etc - all woven together into a "mosaic" that creates a big picture. The data she had access to for research is all publicly accessible (nothing that required "decoding" so to speak), but it was the arranging of it all together that allows for the overall "big picture" to be seen.

The SOTT page operates on the same basis. Editors from all over the world contribute data and perspectives which are assembled like a "mosaic" into a big picture. No one person can do it all - it's impossible. Even Fulcanelli likely had a fair bit of support from a network of seekers in order to do what he did.

Anyway, this is more along the lines of the point I was trying to make.
 
Cs session 96-07-14 said:
Q: (L) Okay. Okay. This whole situation, this Polish connection, this German connection, the American and alien things, the soldier/Nephilim thing, these are all manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing, am I correct?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And some of the manifestations of a Realm Border Crossing are that some people graduate or transition to 4th density, that their awareness changes, everything changes, the playing field is leveled. So, what happened in Germany was a 'practice run' but what is going to happen is that the 'playing field' is going to be leveled, so it will not be exactly the same scenario, is this a correct assessment?
A: Maybe. Alright, my dear, you want the facts, so we will give them to you, and hopefully you will comprehend. If not now, then when necessary maybe... Fact one: All there is -- is lessons. Fact two: this is one big school. Fact three: Timing as you perceive it, is never, NEVER definite./b] Fact four: What is to happen, as you state it, is a ways off, and will not occur until you have reached that point on the learning cycle, and you are not close yet. Now ponder before more facts are given!!

Okay, so this is far challenging than I thought. As I understand it, I'm not even trapped within a firm set of boundaries in which I can wander around and delude myself into thinking that I have some degree of free will.

Instead, I'm just a tile in a mosaic GLUED in place next to other tiles who are also GLUED in place. Somehow all of us these different tiles have to make contact with one another. But before that can happen, the fastened tiles must come to some realization that they are part of a pattern which they can't see, serving a function that they don't understand.

I understand the words of the above quote, but I'm having difficulty putting them together in a way that makes sense to me, so I'll try to break it down to see if I can come to a reasonable working hypothesis.

1. "What is to happen..." Does this refer to the border-realm crossing?

2. ". . . their awareness changes, everything changes..." Does this mean that we are
co-creating "what is to happen". Is this different from YCYOR in the sense that what-
ever change is to happen is precipitated by awareness and not belief?" Does this
mean that the tiles don't have to rearrange themselves physically to create a new
picture, but that they have to somehow through joint effort communicate the
whole pattern of the picture that they form together?

3. ""What is to happen, as you state it, is a ways off, and will not occur until you have
reached that point on the learning cycle, and you ar not close yet."
This part really confuses me because I haven't been able to verify for myself the
specifics of "What is to happen." and what my part is in helping to make that
possible.

4. Is the work the STS forces are undertaking part of the learning cycle that is referred
to? Are the STS forces glued in place with the STOs in the same mosaic? If so,
does there need to be a balance between STS and STO consciousness or
just a critical mass change in either pole that will shift it to "the point on the
learning cycle" need to effect this change?

I I feel like I'm approaching an understanding, but as I approach the point of understanding, it recedes further into the distance.

The scope of the project is so vast, and the phenomenon is so far above the present level of my ability to understand it , that the only way that I can think to even approach is is by analogy.
 
webglider said:
Okay, so this is far challenging than I thought. As I understand it, I'm not even trapped within a firm set of boundaries in which I can wander around and delude myself into thinking that I have some degree of free will.

Instead, I'm just a tile in a mosaic GLUED in place next to other tiles who are also GLUED in place. Somehow all of us these different tiles have to make contact with one another. But before that can happen, the fastened tiles must come to some realization that they are part of a pattern which they can't see, serving a function that they don't understand.
Hmm.. it seems I'm not really making myself clear, so I'll leave it up to someone else to try a different approach (if they so wish). It does seem to me though that you are missing the crux of the matter and trying to impose some kind of "fixed" or "limiting" construct upon your own understanding. Maybe just take a step back and ponder the matter for a while. I find that trying to intellectually "brute force" a lesson doesn't usually achieve a greater understanding, yet the answer will pop up in a moment of inspiration later on.

webglider said:
The scope of the project is so vast, and the phenomenon is so far above the present level of my ability to understand it , that the only way that I can think to even approach is is by analogy.
Well, I know I have no hope of understanding the technicalities of Ark's mathematics without a lifetime of study, so I don't spend too much time fretting over it. If I was meant to be a mathematician, I would be one. The Work is not really about what others are doing, it's about what one does oneself.

I'm sorry if was unable to help you out in this case.
 
Hi, ScioAgapeOmnis. Thanks for the links you posted; it was a very constructive aid.

Having had some very negative experiences with so-called 'esoteric groups' in the past, I could understand PepperFritz's post. All the ones I joined were, I discovered, more interested in the 'aligning without' as Anart put it. They all had quite a vicious pecking order which seemed at odds with what I thought a group seeking higher knowledge should be about. Someone (or two) within the group always wanted to be the 'leader', in the sense of being the 'pusher', and telling us what to think very quickly degenerated into telling us what to do. The last group I was a part of was run by two sweet old ladies who did nothing more than organise the various guest speakers on esoteric subjects, and the tea and buns. We were none of us what you might call great thinkers, but we all wanted to be better than we were, to learn how to be more spiritual and more understanding of what we perceived to be 'Higher Truths'. All that changed with the arrival of a young newcomer. Within a very short time, this young man, along with one of the elderly members, had taken over the group, had organised a table which he and the other sat behind, and who began directing us. Before, after the guest speaker had finished their talk, we had just milled around quite happily with other members. All that stopped. The end came for me during a dowsing excercise organised by these two, when I spotted a compass on their table, before it was very quickly whisked out of sight. This was about 25 years ago, and, until I came across these Forum pages, the last time I had anything to do with any kind of esoteric group. Until I discovered the Cass site and this Forum, I had never heard of Mouravieff. Gurdjieff I had heard spoken of, but disparagingly, so I didn't, when I had the chance, obtain any of his books. It has taken the Cass site and this Forum to re-educate me about Gurdjieff, and what a re-education it has been! Thanks to you all.
Now I'm off to read SAO's links.

Although I've read most of the articles on the Casseopean site, I need to go back and re-read the Gurdjieff-related ones.
 
Back
Top Bottom