Fitness/workout?

ytain

Jedi
Since most of the frequent forum users are on paleo diet or similar, what kind of fitness/workout do you do in your limited free time?

For myself I plan to buy resistance bands or bodylastics to start working out my body, also I was looking at various bodyweight workouts and I've found some that I remember doing that when I was a small kid:
- animal flow workout by mike fitch;
- parkour;
- yamakasi.

I know there are similarities between those three above, and I feel that I can do the animal flow workout at home and outside at the park closest by my place. Those exercises reminds me of the book 'Zen Body-Being' by Peter Ralston.

The reason for buying resistance bands is to train for strength and stimulating the HGH production. (suggested in the book 'Body by Science' by John Little to do once a week)

What are your thoughts/suggestions?

Ytain
 
From all the reading I have done on exercise, it seems the simplest and most efficient method I have found is the following:

20 minutes of resistance training three times a week. Do eight exercises on each day working different muscle groups. Each exercise consists of doing 15 to 20 repetitions. Then a one minute rest before continuing to the next exercise. Use enough weight to accomplish at least 15 repetitions until failure. Once you can reach 20, then increase the weight. Here is a sample workout:

MONDAY

Chest and Back

1. Bench Press

2. Dorsi Bar Pulldown

3. Incline Bench Press

4. Bent Over Row

5. Dip

6. Pull-up or Lat Pull

7. Butterfly

8. Rowing

WEDNESDAY

Legs and Abdominals

1. Squat (or Frontal Squat)

2. Dead Lift or Stiff-Leg Dead Lift

3. Leg Press

4. Leg Extension

5. Leg Curl

6. Calf Raise or Donkey Press

7. Leg Bend or Body Curl

8. Incline Sit-up or Roman Chair Sit-up or a crunch

FRIDAY

Shoulders, Traps and Arms

1. Military Press

2. Standing Bicep Curl

3. Tricep Pushdown or Tricep Extension

4. Shoulder Shrug or Haney Shrug

5. Back of Neck Press or Lat Raises

6. Tricep Press

7. Upright Row

Then on Tuesday and Thursday, I do interval training for 20 minutes. Warm up jog for about 4 minutes, then run as fast as I can for one minute. Slow jog for 2 minutes (let heart rate come back down), then repeat the fast and slow jogs another 4 or 5 times. Then a 4 minute cool down jog. You can do this on a bicycle or other exercise equipment of your choosing. Interval training is great for your heart, lungs, and helps your body to efficiently create HGH (Human Growth Hormone). Interval training has been shown to produce the most amount of HGH.

On Saturday, I enjoy a long, easy one hour jog (I enjoy jogging :)) or any activity you enjoy.

Don't forget to stretch out after your workouts while your muscles are warm.

This routine has helped me stay in good shape while not wasting time. Hopefully this framework will help anyone and can be modified to suit your desires and equipment availability.
 
Hello Nicolas,

Well I don't plan to join a gym/fitness club, so that's why I'm looking for doing at home.


Your list of exercises, that you do, require gym equipment.

Ytain
 
ytain said:
Since most of the frequent forum users are on paleo diet or similar, what kind of fitness/workout do you do in your limited free time?

For myself I plan to buy resistance bands or bodylastics to start working out my body, also I was looking at various bodyweight workouts and I've found some that I remember doing that when I was a small kid:
- animal flow workout by mike fitch;
- parkour;
- yamakasi.

I know there are similarities between those three above, and I feel that I can do the animal flow workout at home and outside at the park closest by my place. Those exercises reminds me of the book 'Zen Body-Being' by Peter Ralston.

The reason for buying resistance bands is to train for strength and stimulating the HGH production. (suggested in the book 'Body by Science' by John Little to do once a week)

What are your thoughts/suggestions?

Ytain

When I have free time, I do certain stretching exercises which I really, really enjoy and then I jog/run for at least 20 to 30 min. That's about all for regularity. Wing Chun is my choice for martial art due to the use of the principle of the center-line and focus on the "in your face" defense. When the mood strikes me, I might do some Chi Sao (sticking hands) with a partner or Muk Yan Jong (open hand forms) against a dummy. I'm getting a bit rusty though.

"Greet what arrives, escort what leaves and rush upon loss of contact"- Yip Man
:D

Over the years though, I have come to really dislike general exercise for the sake of it. Without some kind of structure linked to scientific studies and a personal goal or two, I feel like I'm just wasting so much time and energy.

For anyone who simply wants to do the minimal to gain aerobic health, I recommend Dr. Kenneth Cooper's "Aerobics". His plans are based on years of research and working with military personnel and can help just about anyone, no matter what kind of shape they're in. And progress is measurable.
 
ytain said:
Hello Nicolas,

Well I don't plan to join a gym/fitness club, so that's why I'm looking for doing at home.


Your list of exercises, that you do, require gym equipment.

Ytain

I was told in the book Primal Body Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas, using kettlebells is the most efficient form of exercise for human beings. I'm sure any health or sports section in a bookstore will have a few books on what these exercises entail, and you probably would only have to buy one or two different size kettlebells.
 
ytain said:
Since most of the frequent forum users are on paleo diet or similar, what kind of fitness/workout do you do in your limited free time?

For myself I plan to buy resistance bands or bodylastics to start working out my body, also I was looking at various bodyweight workouts and I've found some that I remember doing that when I was a small kid:
- animal flow workout by mike fitch;
- parkour;
- yamakasi.

I know there are similarities between those three above, and I feel that I can do the animal flow workout at home and outside at the park closest by my place. Those exercises reminds me of the book 'Zen Body-Being' by Peter Ralston.

The reason for buying resistance bands is to train for strength and stimulating the HGH production. (suggested in the book 'Body by Science' by John Little to do once a week)

What are your thoughts/suggestions?

Ytain

A good way to stimulate HGH production other than doing big lifts such as deadlift/squat (I assume you dont have the equipment for this) is high intensity interval cardio. This involves basically sprinting for a short time, followed by jogging for a short time, in cycles. It keeps your heart rate very high and is extremely taxing on the body if you do it properly, so doing it more than three times per week is not reccomended. It takes just 15 minutes per session so is incredibly time-saving, and you get huge fitness benefits.

Here Dr Mercola gives a good explanation of his version of this well known training technique, called peak 8. He uses the exercise bike for the intervals, but I have done this on a treadmill, and running outdoors. I wouldn't reccomend the running option unless you are young with healthy joints.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERo7gVn2VQ

Here is a demonstration on the exercise bike.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NmNS75w9hI

I'd also imagine using it whilst swimming would be very effective.
 
My personal favorite happens to be Fallen Foo: the art of tripping over nothing, and missing the ground. :D

Stairs, curbs, cars, escalators(those tend to frighten bystanders the most), and carpeting over hardwood floors provide ample opportunities for practicing essential kata/form.

I'm a Master of this hidden martial art. All it requires is a chronic illness that compromises your mobility, and you're set.

Yes, that's said in a joking manner, but I'm serious when I mention there's skill in learning how to fall down and not break anything. Its overlooked too much.

I do whatever I can manage to do to keep muscle tone/mass. I have little workout stations through out the house, and when I do happen to hit the floor (properly or not) its a good workout to figure out what can be put away/cleaned up while I happen to be down there. ;D

Kettlebells, balance balls (Those are an absolute riot at my house. Hubby has to go hide somewhere, too much crashing and harsh language for his nerves.), stretch bands, yoga, recumbent bike, everything I can manage that won't cause serious damage to me or the house.

Do what you love, if you can. If you can't, get as close to it as possible. :flowers: :flowers: :rockon:
 
Gimpy said:
My personal favorite happens to be Fallen Foo: the art of tripping over nothing, and missing the ground. :D

Stairs, curbs, cars, escalators(those tend to frighten bystanders the most), and carpeting over hardwood floors provide ample opportunities for practicing essential kata/form.

I'm a Master of this hidden martial art. All it requires is a chronic illness that compromises your mobility, and you're set.

Yes, that's said in a joking manner, but I'm serious when I mention there's skill in learning how to fall down and not break anything. Its overlooked too much.

I do whatever I can manage to do to keep muscle tone/mass. I have little workout stations through out the house, and when I do happen to hit the floor (properly or not) its a good workout to figure out what can be put away/cleaned up while I happen to be down there. ;D

Kettlebells, balance balls (Those are an absolute riot at my house. Hubby has to go hide somewhere, too much crashing and harsh language for his nerves.), stretch bands, yoga, recumbent bike, everything I can manage that won't cause serious damage to me or the house.

Do what you love, if you can. If you can't, get as close to it as possible. :flowers: :flowers: :rockon:
Thanks for that Gimpy, I really needed some ab work today.
:rotfl:
 
I have a gym membership at this club around the corner from my apartment, so twice I week I go in and do some lifting or run on the treadmill or both. This guy, Scott Herman, puts these excellent videos up on youtube, so I've picked up a few tips from his stuff and then I just do what I'm naturally inclined to. I tend to get a lot of leg exercise already given that I walk everywhere (live in NYC) and live on a 5th floor walk up, so mostly at the gym I focus on my upper body and stretching.

Everyone's a little different, so you really need to find a groove that you're comfortable with, push yourself, but never over do it, and if you have any particular medical conditions its best to consult your physician.
 
Turgon said:
ytain said:
Hello Nicolas,

Well I don't plan to join a gym/fitness club, so that's why I'm looking for doing at home.


Your list of exercises, that you do, require gym equipment.

Ytain

I was told in the book Primal Body Primal Mind by Nora Gedgaudas, using kettlebells is the most efficient form of exercise for human beings. I'm sure any health or sports section in a bookstore will have a few books on what these exercises entail, and you probably would only have to buy one or two different size kettlebells.

Usually the people who advocate kettlebells says that, but there is no difference. I recall at least two studies that compared kettlebells with other modalities like dumbells or bars, and found no diference in gain of strength.

Any exercise can be used, you just have to progress in dificulty as sessions pass. Keep the total number of repetitions low, if you dont want to gain muscle mass, or higher if the opposite is desired. Since the range of repetition for gaining muscle mass varies with the selected modality of exercise I cannot give you a range since I dont know what ytain has choosen.
You will gain strength no matter what, since most of strength gain is neurological adaptation to the demand imposed.

If the exercise chosen is one done with very little resistance, or bodyweight exercises, you will need to do it more often that if you choose more demanding exercises. A good frequency of training is 3 days a week if you go through the training with weights route, or more days if you go to the bodyweight route.
 
I have tried to keep up my fitness by regular training for some years now, so I thought I'd share my current routine.

I tend to do 2 or 3 resistance/ bodyweigth training sessions per week. Usually I just do a full body routine, picking an exercise from each of the following: pull, push, lower body, core. To avoid eventual boredom and keep things fresh, I switch the routine with new exercises every 4 weeks. Also to keep up variety, I either do the exercises in a circuit fashion, or in supersets. Or a mixture of the both.

In a circuit one would perform all of the desired exercises in one continuum, without a rest in between the sets. The rest period would come at the end of the last exercise, before starting the next ”circuit”.

With a superset one would pair 2 ”opposing” exercises not using the same major muscle groups (e.g. pull/ push or lower body/pull, etc.). For example you would do a set of inverted rows, rest, do a set of push ups, rest, and repeat for the desired amount of total sets, before moving on to the next bout of exercises, be they another superset/ circuit/ singular exercises, etc.

I have understood that a good goal would be to with each successive week to increase the ”load” (more repetitions in an exercise/ reduced rest period/ added weight/ added set... ) to achieve advancement in your fitness. During the 4 week block you however should aim to have a ”de-load” week (either the 3rd or 4th week), where the repetitions and sets would be decreased. This way you would recuperate and recover sufficiently, and not burn yourself out with constant loading.

I also find it to be great to sometimes take some time of from the training totally and just concentrate on walking, stretching, mobility drills, etc.
During the summers I have the habit of cycling and hiking, and during winter to do some cross country skiing. Nothing like the great outdoors. :)

It is very interesting, that as people nowadays tend to sit excessive amounts of time, the posterior chain (glutes, hamstrings, back) appears to weaken and the muscles in the front of the body (hip flexors, pectorals, etc.) ”tighten up”.

Hence to balance things out with resistance training, it seems it would be a good idea to aim for more horizontal pulling vs. pushing exercises, and with lower body to put emphasis in doing more posterior chain exercises vs. ”quad-dominant”, ”anterior” exercises.

(In my previous training I totally missed the importance of balanced training, especially when it came to pulling/ pushing exercises. With all pushing exercises the humeral head of the shoulder is in an internally rotated position, as it tends to be in everyday, sitting activities as well. There is internal rotation of the shoulder present in vertical pulling exercises too, and if you do not incorporate enough horizontal pulling volume in your training, there will be be problems with your shoulders eventually.)

There is some good information on the subject out there, for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxbmcPzMKkI


Personally I aim to do stuff that can be performed at home, so I have purchased a selection of resistance bands (with an attachable handle), ideal for performing a plethora of pulling exercises. With gymnastic rings and/or ”TRX” -set one can do plenty of bodyweight pulling exercises (numerous inverted row variations, pull ups/ chin ups, etc.) as well. Throw a set of adjustable dumbbells in there and you are pretty much covered with all the pulling, pushing (there’s easily at least a dozen doable push-up variations and if paired with dumbbell pressing variations, one has a volume of pushing exercises to choose from) and lower body exercises.

When it comes to commercial gyms and the machines they harbor, it looks like most of them are actually useless and possibly even dangerous in the long run (excluding the cable pulley machines).

From http://coretraining101.com/exercise-machines-suck/
1.) Exercise machines are NOT an optimal form of exercise for most. Exercise machines are great for isolating specific muscles (i.e. – the standard leg extension machine for the quads), but because exercise machines are anchored to the ground, your stabilizer muscles (muscle that surround your joints and protect them from injury), do NOT get developed. Exercise machines do not allow you to stabilize the weight you are lifting in three dimensions, and since daily activities such as work and athletics do require you to use these important muscles (the stabilizers), exercise machines are an inferior method of exercise


I haven’t seen the "foam roller" mentioned here on the forum, so I thought I’d bring it up here, as it’s a great and cheap device that can be used for ”self massage”. For people who sit a lot in front of the computer, especially the ”thoracic extension” movement and "rolling" the upper back could probably be of benefit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzWOECAhsAM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efbP1XdJ1fE

Personally I tend to break my sessions at the computer with foam rolling the upper back, doing thracic extensions and performing some light resistance, standing inverted rows every now and then. Really helps to keep the spine stay in order. :)

More on foam rollers:

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/flexibilityandstretching/ss/FoamRoller.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8caF1Keg2XU&feature=player_embedded


Iron said:
Usually the people who advocate kettlebells says that, but there is no difference. I recall at least two studies that compared kettlebells with other modalities like dumbells or bars, and found no diference in gain of strength.

There is an interesting article here about the overhyping of kettlebells:

http://skinnybulkup.com/kettlebells-are-inferior-to-dumbbells

I guess they have their use in some movements, but hardly are not the be all end all of fitness. Perhaps the best way to train would be to pick the best of ”both” worlds (bodyweight, weights/bands/cable pulleys) and combine a suitable approach for oneself.


Recent article on Sott mentioned the dangers of yoga:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/239981-How-Yoga-Can-Wreck-Your-Body

Especially the emphasis placed on the over extension of the lumbar back seems to cause havoc:

From http://thefitcast.com/yoga-this-and-pilates-that
They don’t differentiate between good and bad range of motion. That is, these disciplines look at being limber as being healthy. This assumption couldn’t be further from the truth.
The truth of the matter is that certain joints in our body – the ankles, hips, and thoracic spine for instance – require more MOBILITY training because they’re too stable/tight. Conversely, some joints – most notably the lumbar spine and glenohumeral (shoulder) joint – require a lot more stability training because they’re too mobile. Every joint in our body is designed to function with a delicate balance of mobility and stability; some just need more of one than the other.
My main concern with yoga and Pilates is the tremendous amount of lumbar hyperextension that occurs; this is the LAST thing you want at the lumbar spine. Most back problems are extension-based; that is, people get excessive ROM at their lumbar spine because they lack ROM at their hips, or they’re just too weak to prevent it at the lumbar spine

More on Yoga:

http://www.coreperformance.com/daily/the-performance-life/5-questions-for-yoga-lovers.html

http://www.tonygentilcore.com/blog/reason-i-think-yoga-mostly-sucks-infinity/
 
Carlise said:
A good way to stimulate HGH production other than doing big lifts such as deadlift/squat (I assume you dont have the equipment for this) is high intensity interval cardio. This involves basically sprinting for a short time, followed by jogging for a short time, in cycles. It keeps your heart rate very high and is extremely taxing on the body if you do it properly, so doing it more than three times per week is not reccomended. It takes just 15 minutes per session so is incredibly time-saving, and you get huge fitness benefits.

Here Dr Mercola gives a good explanation of his version of this well known training technique, called peak 8. He uses the exercise bike for the intervals, but I have done this on a treadmill, and running outdoors. I wouldn't reccomend the running option unless you are young with healthy joints.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ERo7gVn2VQ

Here is a demonstration on the exercise bike.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NmNS75w9hI

I'd also imagine using it whilst swimming would be very effective.

I've begun doing Dr. Mercola's work-out and it is very efficient since the actual exertion time is only 4 minutes during the 15 minutes. But don't underestimate the effects. There's quite a difference between 45 minutes on a treadmill (that almost becomes a meditative state) and running as if you're a cave-man running from a tiger! Based on their looks, the other gym members are probably wondering if I'm trying to get the treadmill air-borne!

As Mercola points out, cave-men did not run marathons, they ran at high speeds for very short periods of time and then rested. This then triggered the production of growth hormone to repair injuries likely to occur as they ran for their lives. (I've read of some who go as far as donating blood every month to simulate the cave-man's blood loss from routine injuries in his fight to survive.)

The higher your levels of growth hormone, the healthier and stronger you're going to be. And the longer you can keep your body producing higher levels of HGH, the longer you will experience robust health and strength.

So I think of Mercola's work-out as the "Paleo Work-Out."

Here's the link to his article:
_http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2010/06/26/10-minutes-of-exercise-yields-hourlong-effects.aspx
 
JGeropoulas said:
I've begun doing Dr. Mercola's work-out and it is very efficient since the actual exertion time is only 4 minutes during the 15 minutes. But don't underestimate the effects. There's quite a difference between 45 minutes on a treadmill (that almost becomes a meditative state) and running as if you're a cave-man running from a tiger! Based on their looks, the other gym members are probably wondering if I'm trying to get the treadmill air-borne!

I can confirm this meditative state after spending some time working out on elliptical trainers (approx after 20 min - but I am listening music from my MP3 player so I need less time to go "meditative" :-[...). Also I am not interested in gaining big muscles so I train with weights rarely, I am using a wide range of regular gym equipment just to fill gaps while exercising my abdominal muscles. So my workout is high in pace and I sweat a LOT so I am aware that I'm loosing some essential minerals & co but refused to use some suspicious supplements from fitness shops... :thdown:

I wonder if anyone knows some "homemade" recipes for "gatorade drinks"?

Also at summer I swim a lot (mile or two) and "meditation" there is GREAT especially during calm (bonaca) in crystal blue Adriatic Sea (yeeeah) :thup: :thup: :thup:
 
Just wondering if one was naturally very small and skinny for a male adult at my age (22), 121lbs and 5ft5, would it benefit me to actually gain some muscle mass? Or just to forget about it and maintiain fitness levels?

Im asking because I'm not sure if it would be a waste of time and focus to increase muscle mass, than to concentrate on other things? Most of my friends attend the gym and subscribe to the bodybuilding culture that pretty much dominates the mass male psyche where I live (uk). I used to be pretty hung up over it, and I probably would still feel ashamed if certain things are said, but it doesn't really bother me anymore.
 
Paragon said:
Just wondering if one was naturally very small and skinny for a male adult at my age (22), 121lbs and 5ft5, would it benefit me to actually gain some muscle mass? Or just to forget about it and maintiain fitness levels?

Im asking because I'm not sure if it would be a waste of time and focus to increase muscle mass, than to concentrate on other things? Most of my friends attend the gym and subscribe to the bodybuilding culture that pretty much dominates the mass male psyche where I live (uk). I used to be pretty hung up over it, and I probably would still feel ashamed if certain things are said, but it doesn't really bother me anymore.

I also used to feel like this, although I am tall and skinny. If it helps at all, in the sport which I love (bouldering/climbing) you are at a major advantage by having a high strength/weight ratio. The best climbers are not big but they are strong, mostly as a function of their tendon strength. For me it is important to really enjoy exercise and be motivated by it. The physical benefits that result are matched by the mental. It wouldn't be waste of time for you to find a sport that you love, I don't think.
 
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