Folic acid vs folate: the dangers of folic acid

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I just watched this interview by Dr John Campbell, and I'm glad I did.
It runs into something that was discussed in the MTHFR mutation community several decades ago - that of (synthetic) folic acid build up in the blood, and it's blocking mechanism to (natural) folate. I didn't think this was a big deal at the time - other than perhaps contributing to fatigue and DNA methylation not working so well. However it seems the research by these two (and others) has is questioning this.
So a quick FYI before digging into this topic.
Folic acid is a synthetic chemical, and not a vitamin. It can have a small percentage converted into folate in the body.
Folate is what the body needs, and is an actual vitamin/naturally occurring product.
Many Dr's, websites, and research papers confuse folic acid (synthetic) for folate (natural) and vice versa.

The 'fortification of food' with things like folic acid since the 80's is potentially causing a great deal of health problems. Most off the shelf vitamins are folic acid. I should also mention that most off the shelf vitamins also contain a form of B12 that is really not good for you (cyanocobalamin - cobalamin combined with cyanide).

The reason given for this public health intervention, was because it could prevent neural tube defects in babies. A better option would be mothers who may be prone to this (i.e. have a MTHFR type mutation), should be getting natural folate from foods - and/or a proper folate supplement (methylated folate).
Please note I am not a doctor and this isn't medical advice - if you are pregnant or attempting to get pregnant, please do your own research.

Here are the links from under the video:
The paper under the video:

Disruption of Cerebral Folate Metabolism as a Unifying Framework for Autism Spectrum Disorder Risk and Causation Running title: Cerebral folate disruption and ASD​

  • October 2025

    Autism spectrum disorder (ASD) arises from diverse influences that rarely align into a single explanatory model. Here, we propose a unifying framework centred on disrupted cerebral folate metabolism acting across sensitive developmental windows. Reduced folates are essential for nucleotide synthesis and methylation and their transfer to the developing brain relies on high-affinity folate receptor-α (FRα) transport at the placenta and choroid plexus. Disruption of this pathway, through genetic variants, synthetic folic acid (sFA) producing unmetabolised folic acid (UMFA), or folate receptor autoantibodies (FRAAs), can impair neurodevelopment during critical stages from gestation to infancy and beyond. Using a Capacity-Load-Trigger (CLT) framework, we integrate evidence across genetics, pharmacology, immunology and epidemiology. Capacity reflects intrinsic susceptibility (e.g. folate-pathway polymorphisms) [for example MTHFR]; Load arises from exogenous pressures such as sFA exposure, drugs that deplete one-carbon intermediates, or FRAA-mediated blockade; and Triggers include infection, fever, or metabolic stress that break immune tolerance in predisposed hosts. Regional vulnerability is predicted to follow CSF diffusion distance and metabolic demand, with fronto-parietal association cortex, basal ganglia, long white-matter tracts and cerebellar hemispheres most affected when CSF folate is low in utero. This framework reconciles paradoxical findings, where both folate deficiency and excess sFA/UMFA exposure increase risk and clarifies how timing and 1 location of disruption shape phenotype. It identifies a mechanistically defined, potentially treatable subgroup and generates testable predictions for biomarkers, exposure timing and neuroanatomical patterns.

From the video (if I understand this correctly) they said that folic acid tends to bind to the folate receptors more tightly than folate would - meaning they can block the folate transport receptors for some time. This means cellular folate deficiency, as none is getting through - even though blood levels would read high due to folic acid.
It takes a long time for the body to rid itself of folic acid because of this. It can (see the paper above) also trigger an immune reaction to folate receptors - presumably because that's how the body get's the folic acid out of the receptors. These immune flare ups tend to go away once the body has cleared itself of folic acid.

Many other diseases/problems are associated with the immune system attacking folate receptor-α (or treated by stimulating folate receptor-α, which may be blocked by folic acid) - including a bunch of cancers (ovarian, breast, prostate, epithelial etc), kidney disease, fertility problems (and possibly PCOS), lung and ear infections - to name a few.
 
I just watched this interview by Dr John Campbell, and I'm glad I did.
It is instructive. Below are more notes, some based on the video, some based on other sources. As so often it is complicated.

SOTT carried an article in 2015: The difference between folic acid and folate. See also SOTT articles that mention folic, or folate. Most of them are older.

Folic acid is more chemically stable than folate, and that is at least one reason it is the preferred form when added to foods or included in supplements.

The video says that daily need is 100 mcg but to absorb that much one needs to consume about 200 mcg. In the video, they say that folic acid deficiency is uncommon as most diets have sufficient amounts, and many foods contain folate naturally especially grains, seeds and vegetables. The recommended CDC daily allowance is not 200 mcg but 400 mcg as you can also see in the Wiki:

According to the video, the NIH websites states that People who have cancer, B12, a heart stent, should avoid folic acid, see this time -ttps://youtu.be/4cIIN5-vn5E?t=2405 /app 40 min.

The Wiki describes one problem for some people:
Methyl-THF converts vitamin B12 to methyl-B12 (methylcobalamin). Methyl-B12 converts homocysteine, in a reaction catalyzed by homocysteine methyltransferase, to methionine. A defect in homocysteine methyltransferase or a deficiency of B12 may lead to a so-called "methyl-trap" of THF, in which THF converts to methyl-THF, causing a deficiency in folate. Thus, a deficiency in B12 can cause accumulation of methyl-THF, mimicking folate deficiency.
The Wiki has more examples of disease conditions where folate can be factor.

This paper from New Zealand, (the country that had strict COVID legislation!), lays out the reasoning they maintain legally enforced supplementation of folic acid.
The Health Benefits and Risks of Folic Acid Fortification of Food
A report by the Office of the Prime Minister’s Chief ScienceAdvisor and the Royal Society Te Apārangi June 2018
[...]
Based on an overall assessment of the evidence, and also considering the need to ensure that disadvantaged people including Māori receive benefit, the Expert Panel concludes that the benefits of mandatory fortification of packaged bread with folic acid outweigh any potential adverse effects. In addition, the Panel strongly encourages the continued use of folic acid supplements by as recommended by their healthcare professionals, and encourages all women of child bearing age to ensure that their folate intakes are adequate.

Looking at videos, there is Does folic acid act differently in the body than natural folate? by Chris Masterjohn.
He says that folic acid is transformed by an enzyme, dihydrofolate reductase, DHFR, to give dihydrofolate which is transformed by the same enzyme one more time to create tetrahydrofolate. That is, the enzyme DHFR is doing the same to folic acid as it does to dihydrofolate, (which comes out of DNA synthesis), but the process is repeated twice rather than once. Tetrahydrofolate then has a methyl group added to make methylfolate. The Wiki explains this latter functions and explains further:
Tetrahydrofolate's main function in metabolism is transporting single-carbon groups (i.e., a methyl group, methylene group, or formyl group). These carbon groups can be transferred to other molecules as part of the modification or biosynthesis of a variety of biological molecules. Folates are essential for the synthesis of DNA, the modification of DNA and RNA, the synthesis of methionine from homocysteine, and various other chemical reactions involved in cellular metabolism. These reactions are collectively known as folate-mediated one-carbon metabolism.
More from the video description by Chris Masterjohn.
The question is, does that synthetic folic acid, we call that unmetabolized folic acid, does that cause harm? There are scientific hypotheses that it might, and it might, but there's no conclusive evidence of that. That's one side of the argument against synthetic folic acid. The other side of the argument is now that you are giving the DHFR enzyme more work, that means that might be detracting from the work that it has in recycling dihydrofolate that came out of the DNA synthesis reactions to make tetrahydrofolate.

There is a standard way of explaining the effects of nutrients, but since people have small differences in the way their systems function and metabolize what they take in, there can be overall beneficial effects for a population, but not for all, as usual.
 
Just ran across this from Dr Ben Lynch

The short version is: autism and learning difficulties may be because of blocked folate pathways in the brain. Folic acid (fortified food/drinks etc), block these pathways, and so does an immune reaction to all dairy.


Article version (seems the formatting is broken on the website, I've tried to fix it a bit)

Cerebral Folate Deficiency: Why Your Child's Brain Isn't Getting the Folate It Needs—Even When Blood Tests Look Normal

Most cases aren't genetic. They're caused by three things hiding in your kitchen: folic acid, dairy, and surprisingly—green tea.


Key Takeaways​

  • Cerebral Folate Deficiency (CFD) means your brain can't access folate—even when blood levels are normal. The folate is in your bloodstream, but blocked from entering your brain.
  • True genetic causes are extraordinarily rare. FRα mutations affect ~1 in 1 million people. Most cases result from modifiable factors.
  • Folic acid blocks the main pathway into your brain. It occupies 75-85% of folate receptors without delivering benefit, preventing natural folate entry.
  • Cow dairy triggers blocking antibodies in 71-76% of children with neurodevelopmental disorders. Complete elimination is required—organic, raw, and grass-fed doesn't matter.
  • Vitamin D is critical—it can increase brain folate levels up to six-fold. Children with low vitamin D may not respond to treatment, even at high doses.†
  • Green tea inhibits folate metabolism. EGCG disrupts the enzyme needed for folate activation. Pregnant women and children should avoid it completely.
  • Standard high-dose treatment (5-50 mg Leucovorin) forces folate through a 5% pathway. Meanwhile, the highways handling 85-95% of transport remain blocked.
  • A comprehensive approach works better. Combining lower-dose folinic acid (200-800 mcg) with root cause treatment often outperforms other treatments—with fewer side effects.†

You're doing everything right. Your child takes their supplements. You've tried the therapies. You've seen the specialists. But the developmental delays persist. The speech doesn't come. The coordination struggles continue.

Your doctor ordered folate tests. They came back normal—even high. So folate can't be the problem, right?

Wrong.

What Is Cerebral Folate Deficiency?​

Cerebral Folate Deficiency (CFD) is a neurological condition where your brain doesn't receive enough folate (vitamin B9)—even when folate levels in your blood are completely normal or even elevated.

Think of it like this: you have a warehouse full of supplies (blood folate), but the delivery trucks can't reach the destination (your brain). The supplies exist, but they're not getting where they need to go.

Signs in infants and young children (often appearing around 4-6 months):

  • Irritability and sleep disturbances
  • Developmental delays or regression
  • Poor muscle tone and coordination problems
  • Speech difficulties
  • White matter abnormalities on brain imaging
In adults:

  • Movement disorders
  • Balance and coordination problems
  • Cognitive decline and memory loss
  • Mood changes
The symptoms can range from mild behavioral changes to severe, progressive neurological deterioration. But here's the crucial point: intervention with the right form of folate can lead to substantial support—especially when started early.

How Folate Gets Into Your Brain: The Three Pathways​

Your brain is protected by specialized barriers. Folate can't just float through—it needs transport systems. There are three:

Transport #1: Folate Receptor Alpha (FRα) — The Primary Route (75-85%) This is the main highway. FRα handles 75-85% of all folate transport into your brain under normal conditions. What it transports: ✓ Methylfolate (nature's preferred form) ✓ Folinic acid (therapeutic form) ✗ Folic acid (BLOCKS this pathway)

Transport #2: Proton-Coupled Folate Transporter (PCFT) — Supporting Route (10-20%) PCFT handles 10-20% of transport and becomes critical when FRα is impaired.

Transport #3: Reduced Folate Carrier (RFC) — Minor Backup Route (<5%) RFC contributes less than 5% under normal conditions, but becomes more important when the other pathways are blocked—and when it's upregulated by vitamin D.


The Five Root Causes (And None of Them Are Genetic)
The vital pathways for folate transport into the brain can become severely restricted:

Cause #1: Synthetic Folic Acid Intake Folic acid—the unnatural, synthetic form added to enriched grains and most supplements—doesn't just fail to help with CFD. It actively makes it worse. Here's what happens: Just 200 mcg of folic acid overwhelms your DHFR enzyme Unmetabolized folic acid (UMFA) accumulates in your bloodstream UMFA competes with natural folate and blocks methylfolate from binding to FRα Your brain's primary folate delivery system gets shut down For pregnancy: Folic acid blocks the FRα receptor that delivers folate to both the placenta and your baby's developing brain. Always choose prenatal vitamins with methylfolate or folinic acid—never folic acid.†

Cause #2: Folate Receptor Antibodies Antibodies block folate from binding to FRα at the blood-brain barrier. Studies show these antibodies are present in 71-76% of individuals with neurodevelopmental disorders. The primary trigger? Cow dairy protein—regardless of whether it's organic, raw, or grass-fed. When dairy triggers these antibodies, brain folate levels can drop by up to 85%. This isn't about lactose intolerance or casein sensitivity. This is about antibodies physically blocking the receptors your brain needs to access folate. Exception: Ghee (clarified butter) contains minimal protein and may be tolerated.

Cause #3: Low Vitamin D Vitamin D is essential for RFC-mediated folate transport—the backup pathway that high-dose Leucovorin depends on. Research shows optimal vitamin D can increase brain folate levels more than six-fold.† Children with low vitamin D may have reduced RFC function, meaning even high-dose Leucovorin may not work effectively. Cause #4 Oxidative Stress High homocysteine: Directly inhibits methylfolate binding to FRa receptors in the brain.²8 Even with adequate blood folate levels, elevated homocysteine creates a functional cerebral folate deficiency—the folate is in your blood, but it cannot reach your brain. Additionally, oxidative stress significantly impairs RFC function: Low glutathione: Reduces RFC function ~20-40% High nitric oxide: Reduces RFC function ~35% Hyperglycemia: Reduces RFC function ~20-35% Even if you're taking Leucovorin, oxidative stress can prevent it from reaching your brain.

Cause #5: Green Tea Green tea extract (EGCG) causes a double whammy. It acts as a competitive inhibitor of PCFT folate transport, reducing folate entry into the brain. In addition, it also significantly inhibits DHFR, the enzyme required to convert folic acid into usable folate. This means it directly blocks one receptor (PCFT) and also increases UMFA, which blocks the main FRα receptor. Evidence: Green tea consumption is associated with lower serum folate in pregnant women Animal studies show neurodevelopmental effects from high-dose green tea Some studies report increased neural tube defect risk with daily tea consumption Who should avoid: Pregnant women (especially during the periconceptional period) Children with neurological or developmental issues Anyone with diagnosed cerebral folate deficiency

Why Standard Treatment Falls Short
The standard approach focuses almost entirely on prescription Leucovorin (folinic acid)—typically 5-50 mg daily. Why such high doses are needed: Leucovorin relies almost entirely on the RFC pathway—the route that normally provides only 5% of folate transport The major pathways (FRα and PCFT, representing 85-95% of transport) remain blocked by folic acid and dairy antibodies Oxidative stress further impairs RFC function by 20-40% Low vitamin D limits RFC capacity

The results: 70-100% of children with CFD show improvement when treated early (before age 6) 30-50% of children with neurodevelopmental disorders experience moderate to substantial improvement BUT: Many experience headaches, irritability, insomnia, and hyperactivity 30-50% show limited or no improvement The irony: We're forcing 5,000-50,000 mcg through a 5% pathway while ignoring the blocked highways that should handle 85-95% of transport. The Comprehensive Approach: Opening All Pathways Instead of forcing massive doses through a compromised 5% pathway, the goal is to restore your brain's natural ability to receive folate by opening all three transport routes. Lower doses of folinic acid (200-800 mcg) work synergistically with restored natural pathways—working with the body, not against it.

Seven Essential Steps

#1: Eliminate Synthetic Folic Acid (MOST IMPORTANT) Folic acid is contraindicated in cerebral folate deficiency. Period. Discard all supplements containing "folic acid" Avoid fortified foods: commercial bread, pasta, cereals, baked goods Choose whole, unprocessed foods: meat, vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds Look for supplements with folinic acid or methylfolate—never folic acid†

#2: Eliminate Folate Receptor Antibodies Eliminate ALL cow dairy—100% compliance required: No milk, cheese, yogurt, kefir, ice cream Regardless of organic, raw, or grass-fed status No "cheat days"—antibodies persist When 71-76% of individuals with neurodevelopmental disorders have folate receptor antibodies triggered by dairy, elimination isn't optional—it's foundational.

#3: Optimize Vitamin D Status (CRITICAL)† Test: Measure 25-OH vitamin D Optimal range: 40-60 ng/mL (many practitioners target 50-80 ng/mL for neurological conditions) Supplement: Adults: 2,000-5,000 IU daily; Children: 1,000-2,000 IU daily Include vitamin K2 to direct calcium to bones rather than soft tissues Retest after 8-12 weeks and adjust dosing Children with low vitamin D may not respond to treatment, even at high doses. Vitamin D optimization may turn non-responders into responders.†

#4: Support Healthy Homocysteine and Reduce Oxidative Stress Work with a practitioner to optimize†: Glutathione (via NAC or reduced glutathione)—critical for maintaining RFC function Hydroxocobalamin (preferred B12 form)—powerful nitric oxide scavenger that supports RFC function Folinic acid or Methylfolate (not folic acid) Vitamin B2 (riboflavin) and B6 (P5P form) TMG (trimethylglycine)

#5: Avoid Green Tea Especially for: Pregnant women Children with neurological or developmental issues Anyone with diagnosed cerebral folate deficiency Avoid all forms: green tea beverages, matcha, green tea extract supplements, and products containing EGCG.

#6: Eat Natural Folate-Rich Foods Top sources (prioritize raw or lightly steamed): Legumes: Adzuki beans, lentils, chickpeas Vegetables: Asparagus, broccoli, Brussels sprouts Fruits: Oranges, strawberries, papaya Other: Eggs, beef liver Important: Cooking destroys 50-90% of natural folate. Steam lightly or eat raw when possible.

#7: Begin Lower-Dose Folinic Acid Supplementation† Gentle start: 200 mcg folinic acid Standard start: 800 mcg folinic acid Incrementally increase with your health professional until positive signs are observed Monitor for: Headaches, irritability, sleep disturbances, hyperactivity Work with a knowledgeable practitioner to adjust Why lower doses work with root cause treatment†: FRα pathway supported (75-85% of transport) PCFT pathway optimized (10-20% of transport) RFC pathway maximized by vitamin D (<5% but enhanced) All three pathways now available instead of forcing through one Result: 200-800 mcg through ALL THREE pathways often outperforms 5,000-50,000 mcg forced through a single 5% pathway.†

A Real Case: Emma's Journey
Names and identifying details changed to protect privacy Emma was born after her mother had two miscarriages. Her obstetrician prescribed 4 mg folic acid daily—5-10x the standard dose. Sarah took it throughout pregnancy and while nursing. Emma struggled from day one: Poor feeder, irritable, failed to gain weight At 4 months, switched to cow's milk formula (fortified with folic acid) By 6 months: severe developmental delays, abnormal muscle tone MRI showed white matter abnormalities

Diagnosis: Cerebral Folate Deficiency (genetic testing was normal) Standard Treatment: Started on Leucovorin 5 mg daily. Within 6 weeks, she showed improvement—began tracking objects, muscle tone improved, started reaching for toys. But by 18 months, development had plateaued. She was irritable, couldn't sleep, seemed "wired."

The Comprehensive Approach: A naturopathic physician identified the root causes and implemented a new protocol:

Eliminate: All folic acid sources All cow dairy Reduce: Leucovorin from 5 mg to 1 mg daily Add: Folinic acid lozenge (800 mcg)—400 mcg twice daily Hydroxocobalamin lozenge (1,000 mcg)—500 mcg twice daily Glutathione lozenge (25 mg)—daily Vitamin D3 (2,000 IU)—daily

Optimize: Natural folate from vegetables, legumes, eggs The Remarkable

Results:
Within 1 week: Pleasant mood, slept through night, improved eye contact

Within 1 month: Began babbling for the first time, pulled to stand

Within 3 months: First words spoken, walking independently

Within 6 months: Meeting age-appropriate milestones Now at age 4: Latest MRI normal; neurologist: "Whatever you're doing, keep doing it. This is remarkable."

What Made the Difference Emma's case illustrates critical principles: Removing obstacles is as important as adding treatment High doses aren't always better—800 mcg with open pathways outperformed 5 mg with blocked pathways The body wants to heal—given the right materials and obstacles removed Vitamin D is non-negotiable—low vitamin D (28 ng/mL) was limiting RFC function† Oxidative stress matters—hydroxocobalamin and glutathione likely enhanced RFC function†

What You Can Do Today Start Immediately:
Audit your home: Remove all products containing folic acid Check all supplements and prenatal vitamins

Eliminate cow dairy: All milk, cheese, yogurt, kefir, ice cream Regardless of organic, raw, or grass-fed status

Avoid green tea: No green tea, matcha, or green tea extract Especially critical for pregnant women and children

Choose the right folate†: Look for folinic acid or methylfolate supplements Never folic acid

Work with a Practitioner to: Test and optimize vitamin D†: Target 40-60 ng/mL Retest after 8-12 weeks Address oxidative stress: Test and optimize glutathione levels† Consider hydroxocobalamin (B12) if nitric oxide elevated† Test homocysteine and optimize: Support with B vitamins (B2, B6, B12, folate, TMG)† Start lower-dose folinic acid†: Begin with 200-800 mcg Adjust based on response Monitor for mood, movement, sleep, cognition

For Pregnant Women or Planning Pregnancy:
Critical actions: Switch prenatal vitamin immediately—must contain methylfolate or folinic acid, never folic acid† Avoid green tea—until after pregnancy and nursing Optimize vitamin D before conception†—test and supplement to 40-60 ng/mL These are among the most important decisions you can make for your baby's brain development.

Why This Matters for Everyone
With widespread folic acid fortification, high dairy consumption, poor dietary folate intake, elevated homocysteine, green tea consumption, and oxidative stress from inflammation, much of the population likely experiences subclinical cerebral folate deficiency affecting:
Mental clarity
Mood stability
Energy levels
Learning capacity
Blood flow
Stress resilience

The goal isn't just managing cerebral folate deficiency—it's preventing it in the first place. "Health is not about swallowing a pill. It's first about understanding why your body isn't working optimally, then removing the obstacles to healing."

Frequently Asked Questions
What is the difference between folic acid and folinic acid? Folic acid is synthetic and inactive—it requires multiple enzymatic conversions and blocks brain folate receptors. Folinic acid (leucovorin) is naturally active, bypasses these conversions, and can enter the brain even when receptors are blocked. Folinic acid is the preferred treatment; folic acid is contraindicated.†

Can cerebral folate deficiency be cured? CFD is highly treatable when root causes are addressed. Most cases result from modifiable factors: synthetic folic acid interference, folate receptor antibodies from dairy, and elevated homocysteine. By eliminating folic acid and dairy, supporting methylation, and supplementing with folinic acid or methylfolate, many patients' health is supported—especially when treatment begins early.†

Is dairy elimination really necessary? Yes. Research shows 71-76% of individuals with autism have folate receptor antibodies triggered by cow dairy protein. Complete elimination is necessary regardless of whether it's organic, raw, or grass-fed. Ghee may be tolerated as it contains minimal protein.

Why is vitamin D important for cerebral folate deficiency? Vitamin D upregulates RFC at the blood-brain barrier—the pathway that Leucovorin uses to enter the brain. Research shows vitamin D can increase brain folate levels more than six-fold. Children with low vitamin D have impaired RFC function, meaning even high-dose Leucovorin may not work effectively. Target 40-60 ng/mL for optimal results.†

Why should I avoid green tea? Green tea catechins (EGCG) inhibit the DHFR enzyme at concentrations found in people who regularly drink green tea.³⁹⁻⁴² This disrupts both folic acid conversion and biopterin recycling for neurotransmitter production. Studies show lower serum folate in pregnant women who consume green tea.⁴³ Pregnant women and children with CFD should completely avoid green tea, matcha, and green tea extract.

Learn more about supporting healthy folate levels and brain function at SeekingHealth.com [Download the complete 50+ page guide as PDF] (link to full article) This will be designed into a PDF to link here: PF Cerebral Folate Deficiency: What is it, Why does it happen and How to support It

†These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

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