Foot injury and in plaster

Aiming

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Hello everyone,

on Saturday in the evening I slipped and fell, my left foot and ankle swell and I couldn't walk anymore. Today I went to the doc and I have my left leg in plaster now. It's not broken, but given the immense swelling, the doctor suspects something happened to the ligaments. I'll get an MRI on Thursday. I got heparin injection needles (active ingredient: enoxaparin-natrium) from the pharmacy to prevent thrombosis and have read articles on Sott relating to negative effects of heparin. Now, I did give myself one injection already before even reading up on it, unfortunately, but wanted to ask if anybody knows whether I can skip these injections and whether it's enough to just make sure to keep the leg in an elevated position so that the blood and other fluid can drain off by itself.

This is the first time I'm having an injury of this kind and when it happened, the first thing I thought was that it's a message from myself. Well, I'll leave that for another thread.
 
Aiming said:
Hello everyone,

on Saturday in the evening I slipped and fell, my left foot and ankle swell and I couldn't walk anymore. Today I went to the doc and I have my left leg in plaster now. It's not broken, but given the immense swelling, the doctor suspects something happened to the ligaments.

I am very sorry to hear this, but it's good that it's not broken. It's a sprain probably, let's see what the MRI shows.

Aiming said:
I'll get an MRI on Thursday. I got heparin injection needles (active ingredient: enoxaparin-natrium) from the pharmacy to prevent thrombosis and have read articles on Sott relating to negative effects of heparin. Now, I did give myself one injection already before even reading up on it, unfortunately, but wanted to ask if anybody knows whether I can skip these injections and whether it's enough to just make sure to keep the leg in an elevated position so that the blood and other fluid can drain off by itself.

I am not qualified to give you medical advice, but I'll tell you what I'd do: I wouldn't take heparin, and I would keep my leg upwards and as immobilized as possible. Swelling is inflammation, so perhaps a few cups of dried comfrey leafs as tea might help, or calendula, or some other anti-inflammatory herb. Do you have anyone to get these for you if you don't have them, or help you around if you need to? Others might have better advice too.

A said:
This is the first time I'm having an injury of this kind and when it happened, the first thing I thought was that it's a message from myself. Well, I'll leave that for another thread.

For sure it is! You need to take care of you now, and that might mean starting that thread when you can. And do keep us posted.
 
Alana said:
I am not qualified to give you medical advice, but I'll tell you what I'd do: I wouldn't take heparin, and I would keep my leg upwards and as immobilized as possible. Swelling is inflammation, so perhaps a few cups of dried comfrey leafs as tea might help, or calendula, or some other anti-inflammatory herb. Do you have anyone to get these for you if you don't have them, or help you around if you need to? Others might have better advice too.

Thanks for your suggestions, Alana. Yes, a family member will help. I think I'll go for comfrey, and in the meantime, I'll see what else I can find to facillitate healing.

Alana said:
A said:
This is the first time I'm having an injury of this kind and when it happened, the first thing I thought was that it's a message from myself. Well, I'll leave that for another thread.

For sure it is! You need to take care of you now, and that might mean starting that thread when you can. And do keep us posted.

Yes, I'll start another thread soon. I just first want to sit with this for a while and bring order into my thoughts, as far as I can.
 
Aiming said:
Thanks for your suggestions, Alana. Yes, a family member will help. I think I'll go for comfrey, and in the meantime, I'll see what else I can find to facillitate healing.

I am sure bone broth will help too, as well as rest and good sleep.

A said:
Alana said:
A said:
This is the first time I'm having an injury of this kind and when it happened, the first thing I thought was that it's a message from myself. Well, I'll leave that for another thread.

For sure it is! You need to take care of you now, and that might mean starting that thread when you can. And do keep us posted.

Yes, I'll start another thread soon. I just first want to sit with this for a while and bring order into my thoughts, as far as I can.

Take your time, we will be here when you are ready :) :whlchair: :scooter:
 
When I was a med student, such things as heparin did not exist at all for injuries like this. I find it mind boggling that they are suggested, a luxury item and a highly overrated one at that. It will be another thing to have a fractured hip... But a ligament strain is hardly that, even if it is significant.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts. :whistle: There are always other blood thinners such as omega 3s, vitamin E and so forth.

Speedy recovery! And don't forget DMSO works wonders in problems like this.
 
Psyche said:
And don't forget DMSO works wonders in problems like this.

Second that! DMSO is immensely helpful in situations like this. Ideally you would've applied some topically the first moment is was possible to do so, to reduce inflammation and begin moving free radicals out of your tissues.
 
Psyche said:
When I was a med student, such things as heparin did not exist at all for injuries like this. I find it mind boggling that they are suggested, a luxury item and a highly overrated one at that. It will be another thing to have a fractured hip... But a ligament strain is hardly that, even if it is significant.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts. :whistle: There are always other blood thinners such as omega 3s, vitamin E and so forth.

Speedy recovery! And don't forget DMSO works wonders in problems like this.

I concur, I heard of heparin ointments for injuries like this, but injectable :jawdrop:

Arnica cream works wonders for injuries like this, also if you have access to homeopathic pharmacy you may try homeopathic Arnica Montana 30c, 1 granule 3 times daily (1h after or before the meal) until the symptoms improve.
 
Like three months ago, I twist my little finger of my left foot, I saw it how it went to the left more like 90°, I did not go to doctor, I phoned my aunt being an homeophatic doctor. it turned purple after 3 days, the color dissipate in less than a week in the finger it went a little up and then disappear, I called my aunt being an homeophatic doctor. As H.E. mentioned: Arnica Montan 30c, 18 droops in a bottle (600 ml) of water drinking, a sip almost every hour and Arnica cream right in the finger for inflammation, after 3 weeks I took Rhus Tox 30c for the ligaments.


Aiming said:
This is the first time I'm having an injury of this kind and when it happened, the first thing I thought was that it's a message from myself. Well, I'll leave that for another thread.

Fwiw, my injured happend because I did not take notice of my intuition, I was going to a niece party, my intuition told me: “wear socks!”, “why, what for I need socks??, is not that I will be going to the bowling or skating??!, and besides it would be an adult gathering, the niece is just 1 year old, and all family from this side are adults, and I am wearing nice cloths with nice shoes –that I do not usually daily basis wear-, so I did not wear the socks", did not take with me either. The party was in a party hall full of this mousetrap for kids?, and there were games for adults too –I did not need to be told twice--, I took out my shoes and… the plastic floor with the impulse … the finger and the rest of my foot decided to take different paths.

Be patient, a forced vacations like this leads to desperation sometimes.

Edit: added "a sip"
 
I have nothing to add, Aiming, but just wanted to wish you a speedy recovery! As to the emotional aspect, I'm sure you'll post about it whenever you are ready. I broke a toe years ago, and then got an infection on the same foot. The universe was certainly sending me a message before I made a decision (at the time I broke a toe) and after (the infection). I refused to see it and paid the price. So I think I know what you are talking about, and hope that you can deal with the situation and take the message to heart much better than I did at that time.

:hug2:
 
Comfrey and DMSO for sure. I had amazing results with a heel fracture. Look after yourself.
 
Comfrey is more suited for fracture healing then for sprains at least according to homeopathic Materia Medica
 
Thanks everyone for your further suggestions and well wishes. The DMSO arrived today, and I'll also have Arnika this evening. I opened the plaster at one spot so I could apply at least a bit of the DMSO already. I'd actually rather remove the whole thing so I could apply it all over the swelling.
Tomorrow the plaster will be removed for the MRI (which is when I want to apply the DMSO), and then I'll get a new one.

mabar said:
Be patient, a forced vacations like this leads to desperation sometimes.

Forced vacations is spot-on. To me, the situation is mostly annoying (the plaster and the crutches I have to walk around with).

Ailén said:
I broke a toe years ago, and then got an infection on the same foot. The universe was certainly sending me a message before I made a decision (at the time I broke a toe) and after (the infection). I refused to see it and paid the price. So I think I know what you are talking about, and hope that you can deal with the situation and take the message to heart much better than I did at that time.

Thanks for sharing this, Ailén. It helps me see how instead of sitting with it and thinking about it, as I've stated a few posts earlier, I've rather been dissociating from it and avoiding to look into it - even though I did make a mental note that I need to watch out for this to happen. Seems that this is about something It would rather not look into, so having had the accident makes even more sense in this light.
 
Aiming said:
It helps me see how instead of sitting with it and thinking about it, as I've stated a few posts earlier, I've rather been dissociating from it and avoiding to look into it - even though I did make a mental note that I need to watch out for this to happen. Seems that this is about something It would rather not look into, so having had the accident makes even more sense in this light.

Well, I think that one the one hand, when you are in pain or shocked, you do need a bit of time off and relaxation. But yes, "running away" is not something you should do either (your body just sent you a big sign concerning not running away, maybe). So, you'll share when you feel you can do it. Maybe you can find ways to relax that involve a positive dissociation (interesting movies or books, for example). It might end up being a small thing, or something that will make you feel much better once you work through it. (And I'll tell you more about my experience if it ends up being relevant, but I didn't want to influence you. The sign might be similar, but not the lesson, I don't know. The point is that this is perhaps an opportunity to look into something, that could save you a lot of trouble later on.)

Keep applying DMSO, and having lots of bone broth! :hug2:
 
Be sure to dilute the DMSO with DISTILLED water to around 70% (7 parts DMSO, 3 parts water). Wishing you a speedy recovery, Aiming. :flowers:
 
Ailén said:
Well, I think that one the one hand, when you are in pain or shocked, you do need a bit of time off and relaxation. But yes, "running away" is not something you should do either (your body just sent you a big sign concerning not running away, maybe). (...)
Maybe you can find ways to relax that involve a positive dissociation (interesting movies or books, for example). It might end up being a small thing, or something that will make you feel much better once you work through it.

Thanks for your reminder about positive dissociation, Ailén. I have done so and am doing much better already. I have started writing and have been sitting with the theme now, trying to get to the bottom, and will be sharing everything in the coming days.

Ailén said:
(And I'll tell you more about my experience if it ends up being relevant, but I didn't want to influence you. The sign might be similar, but not the lesson, I don't know. The point is that this is perhaps an opportunity to look into something, that could save you a lot of trouble later on.)

:flowers:

Lilou said:
Be sure to dilute the DMSO with DISTILLED water to around 70% (7 parts DMSO, 3 parts water). Wishing you a speedy recovery, Aiming. :flowers:

Thanks, Lilou. I had bought DMSO gel already, but the next one will be the fluid, so I'll have it in mind.

Yesterday I had an MRI and CT done and it turned out that I have a ligament rupture. The good thing is, because I have a state health insurance, they treat you differently, and even though the other doctor had said they would renew my plaster, they didn't and sent me home with a naked foot - which for my situation means I can apply DMSO now whenever I want and I'm rid of this terrible plaster. I do put on the remains of it though, to support the foot or when I happen to walk around a bit. In any case, the DMSO works really well it seems. The swelling has already reduced a bit and today I could put a little weight on the injured foot without the previous pain. But other than that, I'm mostly keeping it immobilized and upwards.

As for the bone broth, I'll have to make one tomorrow. Unfortunately, I only have bone supply for two pots, and there won't be anybody to go to my butcher. But I do have a supply of fish and fat, and there's some deer left as well. One aspect of this situation is that it's bringing home how having supplies at home is really essential (and how the supplies I do have are far too small). Another aspect of this situation is experiencing being pretty helpless and dependent upon others for very basic stuff, which has brought up interesting feelings which connect back to general emotional issues.
A main theme has been anger at having to rely on others, as well as resistance to being helpless, but having no other choice than to give in to what is and deal with it.

One day I simply had to go out and asked a family member whether I could accompany them to go shopping for food - just for the sake of moving around a bit and seeing something different. It turned out to be extremely taxing: walking on the crutches was very strenuous, being so slow elicited anger and frustration (when normally I'm walking pretty fast), as well as seeing how I could basically do nothing at all while 'walking', I couldn't help carry anything, I couldn't carry even my own food. When we were finally home again, I was simply exhausted. So, mabar, your point on being patient was well made. It is a very new perspective being in this situation and dealing with being dependent on the help of others (which is very telling in terms of being dependent on the network in terms of Work), and interestingly, as long as I was resisting to look into the underlying theme, I felt internally stuck and immobilized, and those negative feelings were strongest. Once I've started to 'melt' the resistance, which has only begun though, I'm much more at peace with the situation.

Thanks again everyone! :hug2:
 
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