French translation of the 'Modern Psychiatry - The Thud Experiment' SOTT article

Soniko

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http://www.sott.net/articles/show/221507-Modern-Psychiatry-The-Thud-Experiment

Hi.

I just translated this article for a friend of mine who might be interested in it (she is a nurse who wants to specialize in psychiatry) and I thought it might interest you for posting on the French section of the site.

here it is:

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L'expérience Rosenhan (aussi connue sous le nom d'expérience 'Thud' [bruit sourd]) est une célèbre enquete sur la validité du diagnostic psychiatrique menée par le psychologue David Rosenhan en 1973. Elle fut publiée dans le 'Journal of Science' sous le titre de
'Être mentalement sain dans des endroits de dingue'.

L'étude de Rosenhan a été conduite en deux parties. La premiere partie impliquait l'utilisation d'assistants mentalement sains, ou "pseudopatients", qui simulaient brièvement des hallucinations auditives dans le but d'obtenir leur admission dans 12 hôpitaux psychiatriques différents dans 5 états différents aux USA. Tous furent admis et diagnostiqués comme étant victimes de désordres psychiatriques. Après admission, le pseudopatient se comportait normalement et disaient au personnel qu'ils se sentaient bien et n'avaient pas été sujet a de nouvelles hallucinations. Les personnels des hôpitaux échouèrent a détecter un seul pseudopatient, pensant au contraire que tous les pseudopatients montraient des symptômes de maladie mentale. Plusieurs des pseudopatients furent mis a l'isolement pendant des mois.

Bien que prenant constamment et de façon visible des notes détaillées sur le comportement du personnel et des autres patients, aucun des pseudopatients ne fut identifié comme imposteur par les personnels des hôpitaux, bien que beaucoup des autres patients psychiatriques semblaient correctement les identifier comme tel. Lors des 3 premières hospitalisations, 35 des 118 patients exprimèrent le soupçon que les pseudopatients étaient mentalement sains, certains suggérant qu'ils étaient des journalistes ou des chercheurs enquêtant sur l'hôpital.

Tous les pseudopatients furent forcés d'admettre qu'ils souffraient de maladie mentale et d'accepter de prendre des médicaments antipsychotiques comme condition préalable a leur sortie.

La seconde partie de l'expérience fut de demander au personnel d'un hopital psychiatrique de détecter de faux patients que Rosenhan acceptaient d'envoyer. Après un mois, le personnel de l'hopital avait identifié un grand nombre de patients ordinaires comme étant des imposteurs. Rosenhan révéla alors qu'il n'avait envoyé aucun faux patient.

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I hope that this can be of some use to you.

Thanks for all the good work ^_^
 
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Very interesting. I recently read a book called I Never Promised You a Rose Garden, by Hannah Green. I found it to be really interesting, because some thoughts and realizations that mental patients had were very similar to what one goes through with the Work, realizing the causes of our own dissociation, our illusions, finally being understood here, etc.

Your post reminded me of it, because in some passages, you could also almost tell, as in the article you translated, that the patients understood psychology and the difference between sanity and disorders better than the doctors. Not surprising, really, when you see how the whole field has been ponerized thanks to the influence of people like Freud and his psychoanalysis BS.
 
I agree with you about the complete failure of psychiatry (I can't use the word 'ponerization' because I didn't read an exact definition for it yet, I assume it means that it has been turned into a psychopath-influenced discipline, but I'm not entirely sure).

I've been diagnosed successively depressive, border-line, and finally schizoid during the last 15 years, with some times where I was almost fine in between. For the depression part the doctors were not wrong, but failed miserably in understanding what was happening.
That's only by actually searching for answers for myself that I finally began to understand some things, and realizing why no doctor was really able to help me besides stuffing me with diverse drugs... Also I see a psychologist (not a doctor) for the moment,
and while she is more open-minded than any psychiatrist I met, I sometimes can feel that she lives in a pink cloudy dream, just as anybody else on this planet. That has been corrupted too, and I don't even wonder why anymore.

I've been three times in hospitals, and in any of these occasions did I even feel slightly better than when I got in. During these times in the hospitals, I actually felt that while they had all problems of their own, some of the patients where a lot more sane than the medical crew. I guess one gets to turn a little nuts when working in those places..

I had a small proverb of my own when speaking about psychiatry: "Some people suffer from psychiatric problems, but psychiatrists themselves suffer from a disease called psychiatry". That is quite revealing of how I felt about it and is not so completely wrong in fact...

The bottom line is that I had to understand (to some degree at least) what was going on in my head and on this planet to actually get better. Thanks to this forum I can find the right info at the right time.
 
I've been three times in hospitals, and in any of these occasions did I even feel slightly better than when I got in.

I meant "I didn't feel any better".

(I couldn't find a way to edit my post, maybe that function is not available to me, sorry about the double post)
 
Soniko said:
I've been three times in hospitals, and in any of these occasions did I even feel slightly better than when I got in.

I meant "I didn't feel any better".

(I couldn't find a way to edit my post, maybe that function is not available to me, sorry about the double post)

Indeed that function is not available to the members of this forum who have not reached a certain number of posts.
 

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