friends on facebook

[cubbex]

Facebook Friends - lol

To me a friend is someone who you can trust, confide in, tell secrets and see IN PERSON. I personaly had to get rid of facebook because it wasn't good for me. I had 700 and something friends. I probably only talk to or see 15-20 of them. There would be depresing posts from people on the news feed. "How can my day get any worse" "As if it isn't bad enough." Now these posts wouldnt ruin my day but they didn't help any. Also now that I am in a relationship I like to keep things private. I don't want people seeing what I do with my significant other or comenting on pictures. I would like her to get rid of it but I can't impose that on her so the best course of action was for me to remove myself. Now I find I talk to and care more about my REAL FRIENDS (subjective I know) people I see and have a connection with. I live less in the facebook online computer fantasy world. Yes I do believe it is great for networking and such but to try and find real friends on facebook - please. Having your personal life spread on facebook - come on. Yes It is funny to me after the knowledge that I have gained from this site and other experiences it is clear to see who the vampires are and who are feeding. Now I have more time to read and do other things. This is obviously my personal experience and everyones is different. What is good for one might not be good for two and so on. I personally think that for most people not all but most facebook keeps people in a world that doesn't exist communicating with people they will never see and wasting time and energy on things that have no substance. Just got into the book "Strange Life of Ivan Osokin - P.D Ouspensky (Recommended to me by a fourth way student.)

Probably some noise in this post sorry I did edit it FWIW

So you need to see the person to know about it?
And it's not facebook, its the programs on people and the obsession, facebook it's like a computer, you choose how to use it.

And you would meet people on-line with who you could talk and share and maybe never have them in a face to face meeting, but a contact with more substance than with people that you see.
I have never seen really the people of the forum, but their sharing helps, so if this was not the real message of your post, sorry, but maybe you could be more specific on communicating with people you never see. And it's curious because you could see them in their pictures and photos unless they don't have any.

 

[Menna]

real and of no substance - I generalized. what I should of said was majority of my facebook friends I feel there is no substance . That is just my personaly experience and how I realized that friends I see in person and friends I only have on facebook are not one and the same and that I don't use facebook in the way of sharing information that is real and of substance :) ... Also I didn't generalize based off of just my experience, when people talk about facebook and how they use it and stories related I feel that they have no substance. So my view on facebook is distorted by how I use it and also the how people around me use it and my view on their experiences.

 

[Masamune]

Facebook Friends - lol

To me a friend is someone who you can trust, confide in, tell secrets and see IN PERSON. I personaly had to get rid of facebook because it wasn't good for me. I had 700 and something friends. I probably only talk to or see 15-20 of them. There would be depresing posts from people on the news feed. "How can my day get any worse" "As if it isn't bad enough." Now these posts wouldnt ruin my day but they didn't help any. Also now that I am in a relationship I like to keep things private. I don't want people seeing what I do with my significant other or comenting on pictures. I would like her to get rid of it but I can't impose that on her so the best course of action was for me to remove myself. Now I find I talk to and care more about my REAL FRIENDS (subjective I know) people I see and have a connection with. I live less in the facebook online computer fantasy world. Yes I do believe it is great for networking and such but to try and find real friends on facebook - please. Having your personal life spread on facebook - come on. Yes It is funny to me after the knowledge that I have gained from this site and other experiences it is clear to see who the vampires are and who are feeding. Now I have more time to read and do other things. This is obviously my personal experience and everyones is different. What is good for one might not be good for two and so on. I personally think that for most people not all but most facebook keeps people in a world that doesn't exist communicating with people they will never see and wasting time and energy on things that have no substance.

Just got into the book "Strange Life of Ivan Osokin - P.D Ouspensky (Recommended to me by a fourth way student.)

Probably some noise in this post sorry I did edit it FWIW

Your life is a reflection of who you are. Maybe the issue is how you were using facebook? Were you using it looking to get something from people and when you didn't get what you were looking for you got frustrated?

I agree with you that facebook can be a huge waste of time. But that is why those of us on this forum use it for a different purpose. But that doesn't mean you can't make friends with people on facebook. Check out the threads about facebook on this forum. Also you can change your privacy setting so that no one can see the pictures you are tagged in and so that no one can comment on them.

As for the definition of "friend" this is from dictionary.com:

Friend:

1.a person attached to another by feelings of affection or personal regard.

2.a person who gives assistance; patron; supporter: friends of the Boston Symphony.

3.a person who is on good terms with another; a person who is not hostile: Who goes there? Friend or foe?

I am reminded of a status that was shared around on facebook:

Who says Facebook friends aren't real friends? They enjoy seeing you on line everyday... miss you when you're not there... send condolences if you've lost someone... pray with you,..send you wishes on your Birthday... enjoy the photos & videos you post... put a smile on your face when you're down, make you laugh when you feel like crying....... Re-post if you love your Facebook friends.♥ I Love Mine!!!

 

[Menna]

Not looking for anything - infact looking for less. Personal life and applying for jobs were the reasons I got rid of them also felt it wasn't of any substance/Sophistication FOR ME so I got rid of it. I used it to talk to friends and make random comments or post a youtube video I have also posted information from this site.

I don't like facebook also because I feel that it stops people from doing things they need to do, keeps them occupied in an unnecessary way and feeds the preditor/stalking - again view points from my experience and the people around me

 

[Josi]

I just got this message today from someone who is just an old classmate that I haven't seen in 30 years and wasn't even a close friend - just merely an acquaintance .

I tend to keep my "religious" beliefs to myself, but I LOVED the article "Why Evangelicals Hate Jesus." How very true!!! Keep the posts coming...I learn so much from you! Thank you!!!

And, this from another friend of a friend 30 years ago that I received last week.

Thanks for informing us~I don't know half of what you are posting..very informative and appreciated. I feel like a dumb dumb that I don't know some of this..

So, for me I will keep posting on FB just because you never know who might be paying attention.

Edit: Added to original.

 

[Masamune]

Not looking for anything - infact looking for less.

also felt it wasn't of any substance/Sophistication FOR ME so I got rid of it.

Are you not looking for anything or are you looking for friends with substance and sophistication?

I don't like facebook also because I feel that it stops people from doing things they need to do, keeps them occupied in an unnecessary way and feeds the preditor/stalking - again view points from my experience and the people around me

Sure this is possible but we can use facebook to reach these people who otherwise would have no access to this type of information. That is why many of us are on there, not to fulfill our own social needs.

 

[cubbex]

The thing is have tolerance for others to let them use facebook as they want, and not take take your thought as an absolute.
About how you define a friend and if you should drive yourself because of the feeling, well, that's not my part.

 

[Menna]

I don't like to mix the two - sophistication and substance with fluff

 

[melatonin]

Facebook can be full of meaningless exchanges. Its why i closed my account first time.
It triggered something in me, and got me angry. I couldnt handle it. I know why this was, and i processed what was behind it.
Ive re-joined now, and im more content in seeing it for what it is.
I enjoy reading articles that get shared.

Your right, it sure isnt a replacement for a real life relationship with depth that is 'real'.
But then i look at my 3D friends, and i probably have 1 person who i completly trust (as much as can be expected, given into account no-one is perfect).
This person is also probably one of the only (i have others, but they still have strong views, and it feels overly competitive, which i really cant be bothered with. Exchanging views is great/amazing, but not when theres too much ego involved) people i can talk about the 'awakening' subject aswell.

Facebook for me is a reflection of my 3D life aswell. Its mainly superficial and robotic, without depth.
Adding some folk off here, and reading their views and seeing there videos has added something to my life. Even though ill probably never meet any of them, i share something deep - the search for truth. Something that i dont share with 99% of real life 3D friends who ive spent hours of face time with.

Whos to say whats more real? Someone who you have shared hours of time with their false ego, or a person you have never met whos searching for their true self and is sharing a video and views? Im guessing neither is an ideal situation.
Anyways, im waffling.

Edited - Too add 1 last line.

 

[truth seeker]

real and of no substance - I generalized. what I should of said was majority of my facebook friends I feel there is no substance . That is just my personaly experience and how I realized that friends I see in person and friends I only have on facebook are not one and the same and that I don't use facebook in the way of sharing information that is real and of substance :) ... Also I didn't generalize based off of just my experience, when people talk about facebook and how they use it and stories related I feel that they have no substance. So my view on facebook is distorted by how I use it and also the how people around me use it and my view on their experiences.

I had similar feelings regarding fb. I didn't want to associate with those whom I felt were superficial. I didn't like what being on fb made me look like. For me, it was a self importance issue. When I got out of my own way long enough to consider the greater good I could do through social proofing, the rest didn't matter. It doesn't matter why others are on fb. It only matters why I am on fb - to share information. As for what I may look like, it's no longer a concern.

People have many reasons for joining. Clearly there are those who are interested in the illusion of popularity. Who's to say that one day they won't get tired of their current way of living and choose to change something about themselves because they've been exposed to something they've never seen before? That's one reason I'm on there.

 

[anart]

I don't like to mix the two - sophistication and substance with fluff

Menna, it's very simple. Millions of people use facebook. The only reason most of us are on facebook is to utilize its reach to inform others. That's it. If you're looking to get anything 'back' or for it to 'meet any needs' or for it to even be anything other than what it is (which is a computer program that is all the bad things you say, as well as more, and other things as well) - then you've missed the point.

The point is that it is a venue through which we can spread information to people who might not otherwise get it - to help them, if they choose to read it. That's all. It's not about 'us' - so perhaps removing yourself from the equation might help? After all, taking something like facebook seriously, or personally, is kind of silly don't you think? I hope this helps, if only a little.

 

[Menna]

Anart - I agree with everything you said, it is foolish to take it seriously or personally. The problem lies in when other people in your life do. They read into things, the predator comes out in their minds makes them believe things that arent true. Jelousy rises and such. Also there are other people out there on facebook that can disrupt relationships and friendships because of their own selfish needs. I would like to have facebook as a networking tool and a place to joke with friends but other things arise that are out of your control. Also I believe it hinders some people lives wether they know it or not. When I say people I am not talking about anyone on this forum because I don't know you guys and gals what I am talking about is my experience and my friends and acquaintances experiences.

 

[anart]

Anart - I agree with everything you said, it is foolish to take it seriously or personally. The problem lies in when other people in your life do. They read into things, the predator comes out in their minds makes them believe things that arent true. Jelousy rises and such. Also there are other people out there on facebook that can disrupt relationships and friendships because of their own selfish needs. I would like to have facebook as a networking tool and a place to joke with friends but other things arise that are out of your control. Also I believe it hinders some people lives wether they know it or not. When I say people I am not talking about anyone on this forum because I don't know you guys and gals what I am talking about is my experience and my friends and acquaintances experiences.

That makes sense. I suppose it comes down to a very simple idea. Why are there people in your life who would take facebook seriously? Seems like quite the drain of energy.

 

[Menna]

Yes it is and some people don't have the knowledge like we do but I can't fault the people that I love or the people that I care about for not being on the place that some of us are on the learning curve so to avoid any un wanted excess bull*** that can hinder the relationships I have I removed myself. I am 25 and live in NY there is alot of energy draining and stuff that goes on that I shake my head at. This bring me to another topic - how it is hard for me not to educate friends and family about the work and the ideas on here - but don't help if not asked as the C's say. I guess its a fine line and another discussion for another topic/post.

 

[truth seeker]

Hey Menna,

I was wondering if you've ever attended the ee sessions in NY or would consider doing so? There's one tomorrow as well as the coming weeks. You'll get to meet some like minded people. :)