funny thing happened today

loreta said:
I can not get rid of my wifi, I live in a remote village and without it I would be able to have Internet. But during night I put it off. No cell phone in my room. I have a cell phone just for my car, in case I need it, I live in the middle of nowhere and it is important. Since I made some electrical changes and change also my lights (I am not using anymore light of low cost) I don't have anymore headaches. It is a very complicated situation, you need connection but it is devilish.

In your case loreta, you can sometimes (depending on system and wifi freq) get a higher gain antenna and point it at the wifi source. The antenna is connected to a modem with wired ports. Then you can run wired in your home and eliminate your own transmissions in the home. You will still have radiation from the new antenna but since it is pointed at the source (from outside), the power radiated into the home is far less. These kind of front-end transceivers appear to be common in remote areas - I ran into one in Ecuador years back.
 
loreta said:
I can not get rid of my wifi, I live in a remote village and without it I would be able to have Internet.

Loreta, this fabric is pretty good at attenuating the wifi frequencies (as per the specs) so
if you are able to make a little covering for the head while your wifi is on it should help with the shielding. You have to scroll close to 3/4 down the page to find it.

http://www.lessemf.com/fabric.html
Swiss Shield® RF Shielding Fabrics

Three excellent skin compatible fabrics for radiofrequency shielding (cellphones and cell tower radiation, cordless phones, wi-fi, radar, microwave oven leakage, TV broadcast etc). Extremely thin silver coated copper wires are spun with cotton or polyester yarns, then woven into washable, comfortable, and durable fabrics with the look and feel of normal fabric.
 
Menna said:
I tried wearing the Q Link product ( http://www.q-linkproducts.com/Scripts/default.asp ) around my neck for some time but I was feeling off/sick more often felt like it weekend my immune system. Is there anything we can wear a bracelet or neckless or something to help reduce the EMF from impacting us? Does anyone have a link to purchase such material? colloidal silver?

I never sleep with my phone and often leave the house without it but I can't avoid the computer being a teacher, creating power points, researching, emailing participating on the forum.

B Rubik did a study (double-blind, years ago) with the Q-Link and various sources of EMF (like a hair dryer - these are horrible sources of EMF due to noise and high current). Using the dark field microscope, she showed significant red blood cell clumping due to short periods of exposure that disappeared with a Q-Link. Tests with Q-Links that had their crystal oscillator disabled showed the same results as no Q-Link (eliminating the placebo effect). I'm not aware of any followup study but I did hear from another researcher that the study results were not repeatable. Anyway, the study is on the net and is very interesting (I don't have a link handy).

The worst exposure from a computer will be wifi if it is transmitting. Many laptops default with wifi=on unless you disable it in the operating system.
 
Using the dark field microscope, she showed significant red blood cell clumping due to short periods of exposure that disappeared with a Q-Link.

I looked into the technology and studies before I bought it and yes all of the studies say that it does work but at what price...Whenever I start to get sick I feel it in the back of my throat that’s my cue to start slowing down and take out the ZI Cam... I remember feeling that lump in my throat about 2-3x a month compared to the norm 2-3x a year and it wasn't worth it to me. The fabric sounds interesting might be worth buying to put over my lap when I am working on my lap top.
 
Everyone should also take note that solely concentrating on the EMF part of the problem is a bit of a distraction. Fluoride in you system greatly increases the effects that electromagnetic radiation has on your body. If you put two and two together you will note that many cities have sworn by fluoridating the water supply in the name of healthy teeth or some other reason. Why can't they just give us the free will of taking care of our own teeth?

Now we know that fluorine is highly toxic to our entire body. For more than one reason but I will touch on that later. As I was reading through the wave series I remember the account of Ark going back to Europe. Unfortunately he was situated in front of the Max Planck institute (I believe?). Anyways they (4th Density STS) were zapping him electromagnetic waves but also he was becoming sick because the water supply was heavily fluoridated. Even 4th Density STS technology uses fluoridation in conjunction with electromagnetic waves. Hmm. With that being said some of the only ways to rid your water of fluorine are reverse osmosis and/ or using an activated alumina filter.

Looking at Fluorine on the periodic table you will notice that it is the most electronegative (has the highest affinity for electrons or basically is wants to nom nom on some electrons) atom in 3rd Density existence. And because of the fact that all electromagnetic waves are produced from moving electrons I am positing that maybe that is why fluorine which situates itself in your fat acts as a funnel for electromagnetic waves of all frequencies, thus greatly increasing the effects of which we of course would perceive of as negative since it strips us of our free will.
 
trendsetter37 said:
Everyone should also take note that solely concentrating on the EMF part of the problem is a bit of a distraction. Fluoride in you system greatly increases the effects that electromagnetic radiation has on your body. If you put two and two together you will note that many cities have sworn by fluoridating the water supply in the name of healthy teeth or some other reason. Why can't they just give us the free will of taking care of our own teeth?

Now we know that fluorine is highly toxic to our entire body. For more than one reason but I will touch on that later. As I was reading through the wave series I remember the account of Ark going back to Europe. Unfortunately he was situated in front of the Max Planck institute (I believe?). Anyways they (4th Density STS) were zapping him electromagnetic waves but also he was becoming sick because the water supply was heavily fluoridated. Even 4th Density STS technology uses fluoridation in conjunction with electromagnetic waves. Hmm. With that being said some of the only ways to rid your water of fluorine are reverse osmosis and/ or using an activated alumina filter.

Looking at Fluorine on the periodic table you will notice that it is the most electronegative (has the highest affinity for electrons or basically is wants to nom nom on some electrons) atom in 3rd Density existence. And because of the fact that all electromagnetic waves are produced from moving electrons I am positing that maybe that is why fluorine which situates itself in your fat acts as a funnel for electromagnetic waves of all frequencies, thus greatly increasing the effects of which we of course would perceive of as negative since it strips us of our free will.

Hi trendsetter37,

Here are some links that you might find interesting. The issues of fluorine and water contamination have been discussed a lot so I suggest you take a look at those threads. There are lots of interesting informations and links there.

- Water Thread

- Revert Osmosis Filters

- About Fluoride

And FWIT,

- EMF Exposure

If you use the search function you can find even more.

Hope it helps. Enjoy!

Peace.
 
Hi everyone,

Menna said:
I tried wearing the Q Link product ( http://www.q-linkproducts.com/Scripts/default.asp ) around my neck for some time but I was feeling off/sick more often felt like it weekend my immune system.
I read about that in a thread called "EMF Protection" or something like that. There it has been mentioned also. To keep things short, if its ascribed positive effects are merely hearsay, and that's what they are, it's not scientific, it's useless. I mean, the last thing we need is something that further distracts us from real facts and the truth of the matter. Sometimes I wonder if gems and stones and whatever for EMF protection were invented by telecommunication companies and government themselves in order to weaken those people who conduct and publish real information concerning EMF hazards. Yeah, COAMDPRO-like indeed. ;)

Menna said:
Is there anything we can wear a bracelet or neckless or something to help reduce the EMF from impacting us? Does anyone have a link to purchase such material? colloidal silver?
Everything that reflects EMF. But do you intend to look like Darth Vader? There are no magical gems that suck up radiation though!

loreta said:
I can not get rid of my wifi, I live in a remote village and without it I would be able to have Internet.
LQB said:
In your case loreta, you can sometimes (depending on system and wifi freq) get a higher gain antenna and point it at the wifi source. The antenna is connected to a modem with wired ports. Then you can run wired in your home and eliminate your own transmissions in the home. You will still have radiation from the new antenna but since it is pointed at the source (from outside), the power radiated into the home is far less. These kind of front-end transceivers appear to be common in remote areas - I ran into one in Ecuador years back.
I don't know what your setup is, loreta. Why can't you life without it? Do you use SuperWiFi or a WiMAX-like supply? There are directional antennas available. No one really needs indoor WiFi. For example, I have network and communication cables lying around in the entire house, sometimes in thick bunches, because there are, unfortunately, no holes in the walls. I have nonetheless an Internet cable almost everywhere available. BTW, I do not even own a cellphone.

Menna said:
I looked into the technology and studies before I bought it and yes all of the studies say that it does work but at what price...Whenever I start to get sick I feel it in the back of my throat that’s my cue to start slowing down and take out the ZI Cam... I remember feeling that lump in my throat about 2-3x a month compared to the norm 2-3x a year and it wasn't worth it to me. The fabric sounds interesting might be worth buying to put over my lap when I am working on my lap top.
You call it technology? The studies in question could be simply made up. I mean, how should they sell their products otherwise? How many studies do you count? One?

LQB said:
The worst exposure from a computer will be wifi if it is transmitting. Many laptops default with wifi=on unless you disable it in the operating system.
Yes, usually. I've already mentioned it briefly in the EMF Exposure thread: Even if the WiFi is turned off, while the computer boots up, wireless cards may be turned on for a short time. This issue affects Apple laptops with a newer EFI firmware which supports boot over WiFi for recovery purposes. If you turn on the computer and it boots up, even in case of an alternative boot loader, it emits a rather strong WiFi pulse two times. I am quite unsatisfied with this behaviour and meanwhile planning to remove the airport (WiFi) card as well as the Bluetooth card or at least to defuse them. However, both components are deeply buried so that I am afraid of having to remove the entire main board first. It won't be that easy obviously because it is a complex construction which almost forbids any modification.

trendsetter3 7 said:
everyone should also take note that solely concentrating on the EMF part of the problem is a bit of a distraction. Fluoride in you system greatly increases the effects that electromagnetic radiation has on your body. If you put two and two together you will note that many cities have sworn by fluoridating the water supply in the name of healthy teeth or some other reason. Why can't they just give us the free will of taking care of our own teeth?

Now we know that fluorine is highly toxic to our entire body. For more than one reason but I will touch on that later. As I was reading through the wave series I remember the account of Ark going back to Europe. Unfortunately he was situated in front of the Max Planck institute (I believe?). Anyways they (4th Density STS) were zapping him electromagnetic waves but also he was becoming sick because the water supply was heavily fluoridated. Even 4th Density STS technology uses fluoridation in conjunction with electromagnetic waves. Hmm. With that being said some of the only ways to rid your water of fluorine are reverse osmosis and/ or using an activated alumina filter. [...]
Although this topic may focus on EMF solely, the overall focus of the forum embraces any imaginable source of hazard for human beings we hitherto encountered and got to know.
It's not fluorine alone. There are in addition heavy metals such as Hg, Pb and U which are more toxic. Being loaded with toxins may facilitate the damaging effects of EMF. But why do most people apparently not note any negative effects at present? And we can suppose that they are loaded with NaF and other toxins to the extreme. I mean, are their organisms behaving like a ballon that becomes bigger and bigger until it bursts? Only the minority is EMF-sensitive to some extent at the present time. It is similar to an allergy. But that doesn't mean it only harms sensitive people, not anywhere near as that!

The water supply wasn't fluoridated in Göttingen as far as I know (German water isn't fluoridated BTW), this was another station of his trip, France somewhere or so.
What is interesting: Some time ago I read some analyses of bottled drinking water all containing NaF (selected). They measured the amount of NaF and whether it exceeds a certain level. And the result was that they found a few exceptions which contained extremely high doses of NaF which shouldn't be (above 100 ppm). It could have been production faults. So if one gets one of those, it can be fatal for that person.
 
Thanks for all the information about wifi protection. I will check. The antenna it is I think impossible, I don't have money for that. I will see what I can do. Thanks alot.


I don't know what your setup is, loreta. Why can't you life without it? Do you use SuperWiFi or a WiMAX-like supply? There are directional antennas available. No one really needs indoor WiFi. For example, I have network and communication cables lying around in the entire house, sometimes in thick bunches, because there are, unfortunately, no holes in the walls. I have nonetheless an Internet cable almost everywhere available. BTW, I do not even own a cellphone.

At the beginning we just had an Internet connection without Wifi but I was unable to used my computer downstairs. Just one computer upstairs. Without wifi I can not used my computer, is that simple as that. :(
 
I have also cables connecting two stairs. The communication cable goes from the cellar upstairs where the router, the server, the phone, etc. are. Then one cable goes down again for Internet access. If you cannot find a place for cables, they can be attached to the ceiling for example. It would be also possible to unroll network cables on demand from a system similar to a cable drum.
I mean, no one is annoyed by cables for power supply, so what's the difference?
 
Or you could buy this elegant solution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccNaKvdQ1K4
 
No, it's bad and a source of EMF, too. We already had discussed PLC once, see: https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,21310.15.html
Sorry but not a solution therefore.
 

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