G20 Exposed

Ali Xander

The Force is Strong With This One
I hadn't seen this posted yet.
Full length documentary on the events that transpired in T.O the weekend of the G20.
The documentary is free on the website. (_http://www.torontog20exposed.ca/)
When they were giving away free copies at the premier, they told me:
"Burn as many copies as you can - and give them to all of your friends."

This movie won't surprise anyone on this site. But I was still surprised when it didn't show up on SOTT.
 
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Ali Xander said:
This movie won't surprise anyone on this site. But I was still surprised when it didn't show up on SOTT.

The reason might be that it features Alex Jones and he's been diskussed elsewhere on this forum(haven't watched it yet)
 
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That would be a terrible reason.
Unless you think Alex, Charlie Veitch, and Dan Dicks are all a part of COINTELPRO.
But that wouldn't be a reason to omit, but a reason to expose.
 
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Ali Xander said:
That would be a terrible reason.
Unless you think Alex, Charlie Veitch, and Dan Dicks are all a part of COINTELPRO.
But that wouldn't be a reason to omit, but a reason to expose.

See here and here just for a start...
 
Sorry, I think the key word in my last post was ALL.
I know about Alex.
Just because Alex pops up in a movie doesn't make the entire movie COINTELPRO.
The movie shows an entirely different perspective of the G20 than the Mainstream Media -
With incredible insights from people who were on the ground.
If you're that worried about the effect Jones has on others, you could have still linked it with a disclaimer.

SOTT keeps talking about how the PTB are becoming reckless and are making mistakes.
This was a HUGE mistake. The more people that see this movie, the better.
Seize the moment? Or let it die?
Personally, I'd rather get behind the momentum this movie could stir up.

I haven't read the 51 pages yet that you just linked. So maybe I missed your point Anart.
I'm sick of reading about Alex. But if you have something on Dan Dicks or Charlie -
I have another thread going that only one person has responded to.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17937.msg200045#new
I'd love some filler.

I might be way out of line here. Let me know. But that's not what my intuition is telling me.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCVsizfXimc
Dan Dicks on Jones' show
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qya_6kYF2EM
Dan Dicks and Charlie Veitch on Jones' show

Thoughts?
 
Ali Xander said:
I hadn't seen this posted yet.
Full length documentary on the events that transpired in T.O the weekend of the G20.
The documentary is free on the website. (_http://www.torontog20exposed.ca/)
When they were giving away free copies at the premier, they told me:
"Burn as many copies as you can - and give them to all of your friends."

This movie won't surprise anyone on this site. But I was still surprised when it didn't show up on SOTT.


Interesting footage, the most interesting point being that which we already know - police infiltrate protests and incite and commit violent acts which justify police crack-down on all protesters.

So here's the thing; we can't win this way, we can't confront them on these terms, there is no way we can stop them from doing this. If necessary, they will send 500 undercover cops/police agents to create mayhem, and the ordinary people will be battered and bloodied as a result.

On Alex Jones; a lot of his stuff is useful, as long as you can interpret it and understand that we cannot "fight fire with fire" here. We will play into their hands and we WILL lose that one. Use Jones for raw data if you like (his researchers provide him with good items), but beware adopting his subtle and sometimes not-so-subtle suggestions to "take back the power" in a directly confrontational way from the powers that be. That is a recipe for a quick trip to the morgue. If you don't see that, then you don't understand what we are up against or the most effective way of opposing it.
 
Ali Xander said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCVsizfXimc
Dan Dicks on Jones' show
---
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qya_6kYF2EM
Dan Dicks and Charlie Veitch on Jones' show

Thoughts?

There are people who will do this, and I cannot deny that it is interesting for us to have confirmation of what we already know about how the powers that be operate, but when mass arrests and beatings are meted out, the question must be asked: "what is the point, is it worth it? The masses of ordinary people will not get to hear this information, because the media is owned by the same powers that be. They will hear only about "violence marring" a protest and "forcing police to make arrests".
 
Finch: I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected. It's like I could see the whole thing, one long chain of events that stretched all the way back before Larkhill. I felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me. And I realised we're all part of it, and all trapped by it.

Dominic: So do you know what's gonna happen?

Finch: No, it was a feeling. But I can guess. With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty. And then Sutler will be forced to do the only thing he knows how to do. At which point, all V needs to do is keep his word. And then...

[Dominoes collapse with TV footages showing conflicts between rioting citizens and the anti-riot police]

Dominic: What do you think will happen?

Finch: What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people *with* guns.
 
Laura said:
Finch: I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected. It's like I could see the whole thing, one long chain of events that stretched all the way back before Larkhill. I felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me. And I realised we're all part of it, and all trapped by it.

Hands down, my favourite scene.

For a work of fiction, there isn't much fiction ;)
 
Ya, it wasn't until the 3rd or 4th time watching that I realized V for Vendetta was about current events.
To bad we can't collapse the current power structure by taking out Obama, Biden, and Wolf Blitzer.
The comics great too. ;D

As for the G20.
Here's some more information coming out from the legal proceedings.

Thursday October 15, Toronto, Mississauga New Credit - Less than 24 hours after refusing to sign outrageous bail conditions which included not expressing political views in public and non-associations intended to further isolate him, Alex Hundert was forced to consent to his release.

On the night of Wednesday October 14th, Alex was told by the security manager at the Toronto East Detention Centre that he had to sign the bail conditions or face solitary confinement in “the hole”, without access to phone calls or writing paper. He was put in solitary confinement after an initial confrontation with correction staff where he resisted initial attempts to make him sign. He was denied the right to call his lawyer, and told that if he didn’t sign now, they would revoke the bail offer and he would be held in solitary confinement until his eventual release from prison.

Coerced into signing these conditions, Alex was thrown out of Toronto East and left to find his own way home to his sureties’ house. The prison authorities forced him into a position where he could potentially be accused of further breaching his bail. Alex is now back on house arrest with an enforced curfew, with non-associations with co-accused and members of SOAR, AWOL, NOII and other community organizers. He also has the additionally imposed restrictions of no direct or indirect posting to the internet, no assisting, planning, or attending any public meeting or march, and no expressing of views on a political issue.

Over the past week, Alex has experienced a particularly malicious targeting. Last week, the criminal injustice system made the ludicrous finding that Alex had breached his previous ‘no-demonstration’ bail condition by speaking on a panel because he was supposedly engaging in the same kind of “behaviour that he exhibited in meetings leading up to the G20.” Then, he was forced to take a stand to go back to jail by refusing to sign fundamentally unjust and repressive bail conditions. And now, his right to refuse to accept such a blatant violation of his freedom to express political views and his freedom to associate has been further attacked through coercive and punitive attempts to force his own release.

In a previously published media statement, Alex has stated “They are targeting me because I am part of communities that are effectively organizing across movements. Whether it is the criminalization of anarchists and community organizers like me, or the daily demonization of Indigenous peoples, poor people and migrant communities, we have to show them that our resolve and our solidarity can be stronger than their intimidation and repression.”

Alex’s family, friends and allies are outraged and upset by the harassment and coercion Alex faced after refusing to set a dangerous precedent for our broader movements by choosing not to consent to egregious bail conditions. Outrage has been building across the country as the implications of politically-motivated G20 conspiracy charges become clear. The Crown, the prison, the police and the corporate and colonial interests they represent are clearly afraid of what we think and say, not only what we do.

Rallies in Kitchener-Waterloo, Edmonton, Vancouver, and Toronto on Tuesday echoed with chants of “this is what a demonstration looks like”. We continue to strengthen our resolve, and will fight these trumped-up charges until the end. One hundred conspiracy charges were dropped today against Montreal organizers arrested at gunpoint during a morning raid at the University of Toronto on June 27th. We cannot be silenced or intimidated, our resistance will only increase as we keep organizing for liberation for all people, especially those who daily bear the brunt of police, state, and corporate oppression.

Please stay posted for further updates.

For more information contact Jonah Hundert at jonah.hundert@gmail.com.

For the press release from last week, please read http://g20.torontomobilize.org/node/549 and for further background information on Alex’s arrest and the numerous attempts by the police and Crown to throw him back in jail, read this press release: http://g20.torontomobilize.org/node/504

For ongoing G20 defence and fundraising visit: http://g20.torontomobilize.org/
 
Unfortunately this is the statement:

Finch: What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people *with* guns.

from the film that immediately hit me, as it is always the inevitable outcome when people in power become scared of the people they rule, and it seems they want to provoke such an outcome.
 

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