Gehenna- Slipknot

truth seeker said:
Just to clarify, the operative word in that sentence was 'seems'. Meaning that it may or may not be as I said. Note also that what I said was a commentary about the industry itself and the message that is marketed. It was not a commentary about you in particular. There is a difference between the two, no? Perhaps you may feel a bit identified with this genre and so your post read as if you took offense?

My fault, you did say 'seems'.
I should have settled down a bit and read a bit more closely.

Metal for me has been something that has given me a passion for life when i have been down, and something i use as a past-time to avoid alcohol and all that stuff that ruins other peoples' lives. I am a very artisitic/creative person, and albums that have orchestral backings and piano passages are my favourite. Although not recommended for the newcomer, there is one particular album that was a religious experience for me when i heard it 1993. It is still just as mind-blowing today.

So, based on its beneficial role in my life, i probably do have a sacred "metal" cow?

On the subject of the music industry being ponerised, yeah i get you now, I just got triggered when you said the word "message".


truth seeker said:
I don't know if the answer is to either fully ignore or embrace (become identified) with one's past. Perhaps the answer lies somewhere in between? We acknowledge the past - see it for what it is - and then try to grow from it?
Fully ignoring vs embracing. Maybe first you become identified, when you embrace your past, then depending on the intelligence of the individual they either integrate it/ or the opposite. Which is basically what you just said anyway, so i think we agree.




Tigersoap said:
Hi Hallowed,
I think you modified your post from when I read it the first time.
My post was just based on my experience, not as if I absolutely knew about every possible combination of life experiences.

In my case, bands or music I was listening years ago haven't got the same appeal they had before, I guess that working on myself helped me to be more attuned with different emotions that I was denying myself to feel before, hence I listen more often to music according to my mood, noticing when some music have a negative or positive impact on me and sometimes no music at all can also be very relaxing and help me to be more introspective :)
fwiw.

Hi Tigersoap,
I know, I was so ashamed when i wrote that initial post, as you have been so nice to me before, i came back 5 minutes later and realised (once again) i didnt actually properly read what you were saying in your post. It was my 'emotional trickster' at work in reactive mode from the preceding posts. sorry mate.

Music choice does depend on mood and many things dosent it.




Ana said:
hallowed said:
Anyway, I saw the latest Maiden DVD and the positivity and love amongst the crowds in each country was overwhelming. The crowd for that particular band is definately recieving a STO outcome.
Can you comment on What do you understand for STO? And how it applies to your statement above?
STO depends on the context of course, and i suppose doing something that helps others to evolve. Inspiring them to seek the creator. Reaching people in darkness and giving them hope/faith again.

Of course it isnt that simple is it?

This DVD although im not that interested in the band much these days, was quite a production. It was actually given a cinema realease world-wide.
Back to the point, the band visited impoversished countries of fans, who would never ever have a chance to see something like that in their entire miserable lives, and if you watch the doco, the attitute expressed by the band are all about giving back, and so much more. They also did something similar with a visit to Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia in August 1984.

There is a scene where a fan in an impoverished country is just crying tears of sadness after the show has finished because it is all over now. The behind-the scenes DVD will speak for itself, if ever interested? they have always had a reputaion as very nice people.
 
hallowed said:
Metal for me has been something that has given me a passion for life when i have been down, and something i use as a past-time to avoid alcohol and all that stuff that ruins other peoples' lives. I am a very artisitic/creative person, and albums that have orchestral backings and piano passages are my favourite. Although not recommended for the newcomer, there is one particular album that was a religious experience for me when i heard it 1993. It is still just as mind-blowing today.
Try me. :) What's the album?

I was wondering if you've read the Dave McGowan series about Laurel Canyon? If you haven't yet, you may find it quite interesting. It can also be applied to not only the music industry but all art and other organizations in general. It put one of my own sacred cows out to pasture. ;)
 
hallowed said:
STO depends on the context of course, and i suppose doing something that helps others to evolve. Inspiring them to seek the creator. Reaching people in darkness and giving them hope/faith again.

Of course it isnt that simple is it?

This DVD although im not that interested in the band much these days, was quite a production. It was actually given a cinema realease world-wide.
Back to the point, the band visited impoversished countries of fans, who would never ever have a chance to see something like that in their entire miserable lives, and if you watch the doco, the attitute expressed by the band are all about giving back, and so much more. They also did something similar with a visit to Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia in August 1984.

There is a scene where a fan in an impoverished country is just crying tears of sadness after the show has finished because it is all over now. The behind-the scenes DVD will speak for itself, if ever interested? they have always had a reputaion as very nice people.

Just think, Have "their entire miserable lives" changed in having the honor of Maiden visiting them?


truth seeker said:
hallowed said:
Metal for me has been something that has given me a passion for life when i have been down, and something i use as a past-time to avoid alcohol and all that stuff that ruins other peoples' lives. I am a very artisitic/creative person, and albums that have orchestral backings and piano passages are my favourite. Although not recommended for the newcomer, there is one particular album that was a religious experience for me when i heard it 1993. It is still just as mind-blowing today.
Try me. :) What's the album?

I was wondering if you've read the Dave McGowan series about Laurel Canyon? If you haven't yet, you may find it quite interesting. It can also be applied to not only the music industry but all art and other organizations in general. It put one of my own sacred cows out to pasture. ;)

I agree with truth seeker it is a very revealing reading, and you may also want to read or re-read The Wave series too, to get a more clear picture of the state of our world and how it is inherently related to the STS orientation of its people and the deliberate manipulation of higher STS density beings to maintain the Status Quo.

If we are not able to see the root of the problem, nothing as nice as it seems, will change the state of things in this world, they are only illusions fading into darkness.
 
On a personal note, what has metal done for me, is that it has helped me to cope with my narcissistic family. It has always helped me releasing anger, and sorrow, and other negative energies in a healthy way, that is without hurting anyone.
It has also inspired me with great lyrics. What's funny and quite particular about metal is that it can join both the most amazing and the stupidest lyrics into the same genre :P
It has also taught me that showing feelings doesn't mean to be weak at all, quite the opposite. And it gave me the most beautiful love ballads ;)
 

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