Gen Z and Gen Alpha: Hopeless Generations, or quite the opposite?

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The Generation that was born from roughly 1997 to 2012 is commonly referred to as Gen Z. The Generation that was born from roughly 2010 to 2025 is commonly referred to as Gen Alpha.

I used to feel quite sorry for those generations because they are confronted with such an enormous onslaught of difficulties. I also used to assume that, generally speaking, “they are lost“.

But seeing what has happened in the last couple of years and having interacted with some of them and heard stories of parents, I’m not so sure about that anymore.

Obviously, we can't generalize things and I don't know how and if those generations differ in the US (and other western countries like Germany) from those not in "the west", but here are a number of the things I have noticed:

- Quite a sizable amount of people/kids in Gen Z/Alpha seem remarkably little inclined to believe anything that their parents, teachers and even the government and/or mainstream tells them.

- Quite a sizable amount of people/kids in Gen Z/Alpha don't seem to go along with the "Israel love" and pro Israel propaganda at all.

- Quite a sizable amount of people/kids in Gen Z/Alpha seem to be conscious of eating, not seldomly avoiding things like milk and gluten products.

- Quite a sizable amount of people/kids in Gen Z/Alpha seem to revert back to quite sensible conservative approaches/thinking patterns and generally speaking toward things we would consider much healthier.

If you think about it, those generations have received the brunt of all the evil stuff that has been prepared for decades from very early ages. Almost all of them are fully emersed in technologies like PCs, phones and things like social media. Many were the direct recipients of the Covid area where even many of their "lovely parents" thought it is a good idea to vaccinate them, shield their faces from them in crucial development ages and distanced themselves from their own children. In places like Kindergarten and school, those generations were bombarded by literally Orwellian levels of nonsense, propaganda and inhumanity. That is just a short list of what those generations were/are confronted with. So, in a real sense, you could say that many were and/or are in one way or the other traumatized? Despite all that, what many in those generations are doing now, AT VERY EARLY AGES, seems to be to do the opposite of whatever agendas the PTB and their followers hoped for? They rebel against all of this? Things the PTB prepared are backfiring grandiosely once again?

If you think back at your own childhood and early adulthood, how many of the people around you, including yourself, were as non-compliant as Gen-Z/Alpha, and educated about big and important world turning stuff and also "small things" at that age? Apart from the idea that what is happening in those generations is just a natural backfiring of totalitarian measures, could it be that "special" souls have reincarnated into those generations, potentially even with possibilities to become STO candidates?

Having said the above, as said, what is described above are generalizations and I can see a lot of what is going wrong in those generations as well, including many people feeling entitled to not work for anything and get things for free.

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I am of generation X (1966) and my children of the Z generation ((1997 and 2003). I have always followed the recommendation of C'S on informing them of the realities of our world because knowledge protects and during the covid and still now they are awake. I am lucky to know the teaching of C'S and the forum.
 
Well, also the "New" STO candidates will have better distractions than there were in my time and a much easier way to make money (laughs). I don't see it as "nothing wrong", just part of the show.

I don't see it as anything "bad" because in such a case, those individuals who choose only self-gratification, will be the collinear percentage/equilibrium with the PTB. as it naturally should be.

I find it intriguing is to observe a kind of restart or relay. A point where we can again "look down", see this generation starting from scratch in front of this predatory world. To see how manipulable they can become due to the dependence on technology as happened in the case of Nepal. It is amazing to see how psychopaths do not waste even the slightest time on it, on creating the necessary conditions to start amassing those pubescent souls/minds.

Equally without exaggeration, here we continue with them suffering too. More or less years, but older and with less chance of living also for various reasons.

After reading so much that everything "depends on our 3D perception", I don't see them as a "lost generation" or "special" since just like us, they will also have the necessary tools to survive in the new level/difficulty environment of this school.
 
As per C's, approx. 50% are OP's ( 6% Psychos - varies by 'groups'- countries etc.) and 50% Souled. Each Soul has free will choice before the birth. i.e. At some level of Soul, it has little bit knowledge of circumstances before the birth and it consciously chooses to be born if it only suites its experiential potential. i.e. If the circumstances are not suitable, it may not even chose to born. OP's any way goes with the wind.

The main issue is with so-called mechanized 'Science' that relies on repeatable/predictable patterns. It removed soul from the picture of reality. What if the souls that were getting born has better temperament than the souls that were born before that. We can't generalize every body as same ( or some identifiable 'number') in this analysis.

Gen X has WW II background and is conditioned to depend on the varied post WW II programs after that for basic survival. Gen Z were born when the programs went on steroid, along with little butterflies of resistance . This topic reminds me a quote of recent video I watched.

You've been walking blind in this world with propaganda coloring every aspect of your understanding of what is going on in America. The inevitable truth is it gets crazier before it gets simpler. It only takes one crack in that facade. It only takes one lie itching in your mind to realize, wait a minute, maybe these people aren't telling me the truth about other things, too.

The authority figures in our lives told us one lie. You have to ask the question, was any of the rest of it lies? Does anything I know about history actually add up? For most of us, what starts out as a weird moment watching the TV, a weird article that doesn't make sense, the whole world is subservient to some sort of hidden regime beyond the government organization. Imagine what they've done to shape our children's understanding of the last 5,000 years of history through the textbooks, through the accepted history. But now that everyone's realizing it, that's the opportunity to do something about it. A lie has to be repeated a thousand times to be believed. The truth need be heard only once because you know truth when you see it. But lies do not hold up in the court of reality. It's the black pill and the clear pill at the same time. And it's just about how you choose to perceive it. You either look at it as the world is being revealed as deeply evil and nothing will ever change or all lies will be exposed. The world has always been this way and finally the veil is going to be lifted.
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In any case, it is dynamic situation with so many nuts and bolts, actions and reactions and so on. In think we can't ignore soul temperament of the people who has one though we don't have means to measure it.
 
Authority figures mean very little to youngsters, since the rules of systematized consequences scarcely apply to them in full effect, as they do to adults.

Many youngsters would also have a hard time finding Israel on a map, yet alone knowing what an Israeli is.

If you're a conservative as an adult, then young kids demonstrating conservative inclinations would seem like they have good heads on their shoulders. If not, then the obverse is the case.

.... So no, I haven't seen anything special. Basically everyone is glued to their phones, from senior citizens, to those under the age of majority. The one kid that I've seen/talked to, who had potential in seeing reality for what it is, also had plenty of potential to make stupid mistakes. Mistakes which they naively, but eagerly courted, and engaged in.

With that said...

A multiplicity of choice is often mistaken as an option/recourse for rebellious attitudes. This sort of thing is seen fairly often in adolescence, wherein the teenies do the exact opposite of what their parents do. However, these rebellious attitudes become effectively trapped within the accepted constraints of social/political expression within a society, and for those variations which are not -- well there is no "get out of jail" card for them.

This is obviously exacerbated by the hormones and variable states of bodily homeostasis, however it's also fundamental to the notion of duality or identity (this or not this). You simple cannot fashion the identity with which you will eventually be, without first trying out something that will be contrasted. To not attempt such, will fashion you as a carbon-copy of parental attitudes, which is perfectly fine if you identify with such things -- therein lies the golden key to the proverbial doors of political knowledge. Who will turn out to be whom, without propaganda?

This is also a stage of psycho-social development per Erikson, and it's usually contentious because the individual's development is finishing its spate within a familial environment, and is ever moving into a more foreign, and worldly social environment. The former and the latter, are almost never synonymous, unless you live in some remote jungle, wherein the local community, is the only population within 300 square kilometers (or some other form of barrier).

Now those conceptions are normative, in that they don't consider pathologies of physiology or psychology. Plato recorded just a hint of a reflexive tinge, within his Republic, on the anacyclosis (cyclical history) between generations. Between the ancient notions, and contemporary theories, there is literally no room for some spontaneous generation of system-breaking behavior. You've just got one big system, that just keeps changing on its masks, and this is reflected in the attitudes of the youth -- automation at its finest, because it is imperceptible to the human ego.

Book VIII (543a–569c)
Returning to his earlier point, Socrates categorises governments into five types of regimes: aristocracy, timocracy, oligarchy, democracy, and tyranny.

The starting point is an imagined, alternate, just aristocracy ruled by a philosopher-king. Aristocracy degenerates into timocracy when, due to miscalculation on the part of its governing class, the next generation includes persons of an inferior nature, inclined not just to cultivating virtues but also producing wealth. In a timocracy, governors will apply great effort in gymnastics and the arts of war, as well as the virtue that pertains to them, that of courage. As the emphasis on honor is compromised by wealth accumulation, it is replaced by oligarchy. The oligarchic government is dominated by the desiring element, in which the rich are the ruling class. Oligarchs do, however, value at least one virtue, that of temperance and moderation—not out of an ethical principle or spiritual concern, but because by dominating wasteful tendencies they succeed in accumulating money.

From the conflicts arising out of tensions in an oligarchy, the poor majority overthrow the wealthy minority, and democracy replaces the oligarchy preceding it. In democracy, the lower class grows bigger and bigger. The populism of the democratic government leads to mob rule, fueled by fear of oligarchy, which a clever demagogue can exploit to take power and establish tyranny where no one has discipline and society exists in chaos. In a tyrannical government, the city is enslaved to the tyrant, who uses his guards to remove the best social elements and individuals from the city to retain power, while leaving the worst. He will also provoke warfare to consolidate his position as leader. In this way, tyranny is the most unjust regime of all.

Book IX (571a–592b)
In parallel to this, Socrates considers the individual or soul that corresponds to each of these regimes.

He describes how an aristocrat may become weak or detached from political and material affluence, and how his son will respond to this by becoming overly ambitious. The timocrat in turn may be defeated by the courts or vested interests; his son responds by accumulating wealth in order to gain power in society and defend himself against the same predicament, thereby becoming an oligarch. The oligarch's son will grow up with wealth without having to practice thrift or stinginess, and will be tempted and overwhelmed by his desires, so that he becomes democratic, valuing freedom above all. The democratic man is torn between tyrannical passions and oligarchic discipline, and ends up in the middle ground: valuing all desires, both good and bad. The tyrant will be tempted in the same way as the democrat, but without an upbringing in discipline or moderation to restrain him. Therefore, his most base desires and wildest passions overwhelm him, and he becomes driven by lust, using force and fraud to take whatever he wants. The tyrant is both a slave to his lusts, and a master to whomever he can enslave.

Socrates points out the human tendency to be corrupted by power leads down the road to timocracy, oligarchy, democracy and tyranny. From this, he concludes that ruling should be left to philosophers, who are the most just and therefore least susceptible to corruption. This "good city" is depicted as being governed by philosopher-kings; disinterested persons who rule not for their personal enjoyment but for the good of the city-state (polis). The philosophers have seen the "Forms" and therefore know what is good. They understand the corrupting effect of greed and own no property and receive no salary.
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And just to be fair ... the PTB also fail to account for this mechanistic tendency. Whatever they do, it will just rebound around, exactly in the opposite direction of what they seek to instill into the young. As for the young adults, well it just depends on how much they know, and how jaded they have become due to illusory dreams and failed expectations.
 
Here is a video that describes a small amount of what we are all confronted with, and it seems especially Gen Z/Alpha as well. Things we here are all familiar with:


And here a comedians take on some related stuff:

Cosmos said:
[...]Fourth: I only watched about half of the following video by Jim Breuer. If possible you could listen to those couple of minutes too, to get where my thinking is:


Now, I don’t think it is as black and white as Breuer might think it is, but in general, for many/most people what he is describing about the power of the phone/sozial media might be what he is describing? A feeding tube of sorts sending energy to our 4D overloads and a great mind control tool as well? As I said I don’t think it is that black and white though and I think it is similar to any other tool (like the internet) that can be engaged with productively or destructively.[...]
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I sometimes wonder if what we are seeing is not actually something that has developed just recently for a couple of years or decades but actually over centuries or even millennia? Maybe humanity as a whole has more or less been interfered with and or been programmed to arrive exactly where we are today by 4D? And/or there is a natural development/shift happening and the dark side of the equation (4D STS) has tried for millennia to shape that development into certain directions? Maybe to weaken not only the bodies but also the minds "of humanity" in order that they can be more easily controlled and/or replaced "in 4D" and/or "3D"?
 
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Notice how sane, grounded, and strong these young people sound and appear. It is a stark contrast to screaming blue haired trans wokesters.

Good topic, I feel something that is very uplifting watching their strength and courage.

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were as non-compliant as Gen-Z/Alpha, and educated about big and important world turning stuff and also "small things" at that age? Apart from the idea that what is happening in those generations is just a natural backfiring of totalitarian measures, could it be that "special" souls have reincarnated into those generations, potentially even with possibilities to become STO candidates?

Having said the above, as said, what is described above are generalizations and I can see a lot of what is going wrong in those generations as well, including many people feeling entitled to not work for anything and get things for free.
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Perhaps the fortitude of some gen z/alpha is a consequence of the trauma and suffering of their souls, an accelerated period of learning. The OPs of the same generation, on the other hand, just disintegrate as per their trauma programming.
 
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One thing I noticed with Gen Alpha - which is just my impression in an admittedly not very representative part of the world - is: I met a few of them that are voracious readers. I don’t know of any of the Gen Z around me who reads, at all. Might be a bias of some sort, but this kinda popped up on my radar recently and surprised me.
 
I have 2 z’s and 2 alphas. I’ve noticed that the alphas supersede the z’s in basic intelligence and intuition so I suspect that it has something to do with the collective information highway expanding and infusing into the subconscious of the minds of the population, ya know, when kids are little and very impressionable I think that’s when they get their collective mind imprint. I also think it has to do with the level of awareness said the parents when they infuse their DNA memory into their children at the time of conception.
Just hypothesising. Though I think it’s something like how each new car model comes out it’s better than the previous one because there’s more general knowledge available on how to make that new car better.

My newest alpha was born in 2023. She came out and was very obviously frustrated by being a tiny helpless baby. She just knows stuff that not I nor anyone else taught her. She’s the smartest and most switched on by far than my other kids who are aged 25, 22 and 12.
 
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One thing I noticed with Gen Alpha - which is just my impression in an admittedly not very representative part of the world - is: I met a few of them that are voracious readers. I don’t know of any of the Gen Z around me who reads, at all. Might be a bias of some sort, but this kinda popped up on my radar recently and surprised me.
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I also heard second hand from a young Gen Z woman that is a furious reader, reading tons of books in a speed reading fashion. Really fast. It surprised me positively too. She isn’t eating milk products.
 
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Here is something I thought about increasingly that seems especially afflicting Gen Z, Alpha and onwards and not only in the west. I think it is a broader trend that is afflicting most of society as well (including older generations) while it seems especially endemic in those younger generations.

People are being pushed towards and willingly participate in:

- Instead of owning things to pay for them monthly on credit.

- At the same time they are encouraged to not think about financial stability and independence LONG TERM while also willingly participating in it.

- At the same time they are not taught very basic and once normal common sense things about ownership and what you can and can not afford while also willingly participating in it.

I think in most of known recorded history in any society or civilization people knew and were taught very basic and easy things like:

Here is the money/ownership I really have right now, here is what I own effectively, here is what I earn monthly, here is how long I will likely live, here is what credits of any kind actually mean for you at the end if you calculate and think long term.

Look around: Almost everything now except maybe the most basic things like food and water are offered on credit and most people are happy with it and think “that is a good deal“. While in some cases you do not even own any given thing anymore after you have paid many months for it PLUS hefty credit on top of that! You buy a cellphone for example you pay monthly for it, instead of just looking at what money/ownership you actually have at the moment and pay for it without any credit in one go (WHEN YOU CAN AFFORD IT). I think you can see many other examples of that kind everywhere. And often now the people who are selling you a product don’t even encourage or want that you pay for it in one go and be done with it.

Once it was normal to only buy something if you have the means to do so and then, if at all possible, only buy it and own it in one go without any credit.

How many of the people who are willingly taking a credit for almost anything constantly have actually done a pretty simple calculation (including “little things“ like Netflix and stuff)?: What is the sum of all those “little costs“ combined in a month and year? And how many of those people have calculated another pretty simple thing?: What does it mean if I continue to do that for my future, let’s say, in 20-30 or more years from now?

And now add on top of that all those great lures “to get a lot of money pretty quickly without any real sweat involved“ such as for example “bitcoin“ and other online “currencies“.

I reckon that many of those people will be faced with something that is perhaps what is wanted in the first place with it (and can be easily calculated/seen by anyone now):

You will be poor and own pretty much nothing in the future and thus likely you will be almost completely dependent on the state for „your well being“.

Spoiler: You will get old too and probably get into retirement age.

What will you have at the end if you continue like you do now?

PS: And even if people avoid most if not all of those “traps“ how many are aware that it is probably not a very good idea to have your money/ownership in a bank as paper/fiat money? How many can even think that maybe, just maybe, things like precious metals safely in your own possession at home might be a better idea and things like property, houses, and common important down to earth goods?
 
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How many can even think that maybe, just maybe, things like precious metals safely in your own possession might be a better idea and things like property, houses, and common important down to earth goods?
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This made me laugh a lot, thanks for the laugh.

I'll get to it immediately. :lol:
 
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