genes & spiritual advancement

[LadyRodgers]

i was just reading chp 28 of the waves series and was wondering if there is more info on genetics relating to spiritual advancement?
how does one know if they have these genes or not?

thanks.

 

[Franco]

Hi Lady,

There is no way we can really know, I wouldn't worry about this too much.

Just do what you can for your own advancement through, diet changes, studying the 4th way, EE breathing and interacting with the network here.

As far as I know certain genetics might be predisposed to certain things like psychic ability and many other things, but there has been a lot of interbreeding and it is totally out of your control.

 

[LadyRodgers]

ok thanks! :)

 

[Sirius]

Yes exactly, why to worry if it is a natural thing and you cannot change/alter it at will. And if you could, what would you do? I think "working" or using or utilising your current physical body in the now is more to the point.

Here a session excerpt about this subject:

Q: (L) But isn’t the nature of a person determined by their soul and not the physical body?
A: Partially, remember, aural profile and karmic reference merges with physical structure.
Q: (L) So you are saying that particular genetic conditions are a physical reflection of a spiritual orientation? That the soul must match itself to the genetics, even if only in potential?
A: Yes, precisely.
Q: (L) So a person’s potential for spiritual advancement or unfoldment is, to a great extent, dependent upon their genes?
A: Natural process marries with systematic construct when present.
Q: (L) Well, if that is the case, and the aliens are abducting people and altering their genes, can they not alter the genes so that higher level souls simply cannot come in?
A: Not incarnative process, natural biological processes. Incarnative involves strictly ethereal at 5th density and lower, and thus is enveloped in triple cycle "veil" of transfer which is impregnable by any means. However, any and all 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th processes can be manipulated at will and to any degree if technology is sufficient.

And happy reading, by the way.

 

[ScarletBegonias]

i was just reading chp 28 of the waves series and was wondering if there is more info on genetics relating to spiritual advancement?
how does one know if they have these genes or not?

thanks.

Hi LadyRodgers, I'm reading The Science of Evil and the author makes the statement that there are certain genes that are related to empathy. To me, having empathy is a step in the direction of spiritual advancement. Here is a quote from his book:

Of the sixty-eight candidate genes we tested, four showed a strongly significant association with the Empathy Quotient [a test the author and other researchers created]. One of these genes, CYPB11B1, was in the sex steroid group. A second gene, WFSI, was in the group related to social-emotional behavior. The third and fourth genes associated with the EQ, NTRK1 and GARBR3, were in the neural growth group, (Baron-Cohen, 138).

Genetic testing is very expensive, but perhaps you would enjoy taking the Empathy Quotient test that the author includes in his book. He also created a child version, but just remember that these types of self-report questionnaires always have margins of error for multiple reasons.

 

[RyanX]

As far as I know certain genetics might be predisposed to certain things like psychic ability and many other things, but there has been a lot of interbreeding and it is totally out of your control.

Exactly. Another thing to consider is that the things people often consider as spiritual (psychic abilities, etc.) really have nothing to do with spirituality, per say. One can be incredibly spiritual about the world (i.e. curious about discovering the truth, helping others, etc.) and not have any genetic predisposition for psychic abilities of any sort.

I think Laura relates the story somewhere in The Wave about a man who had an incredible ability to heal people in a psychic manner, but that they often had to drag him out of the taverns to do this for people in need. In other words, he may have had some incredible psychic ability, but this in no way implied a high spiritual state.

 

[Leo40]

I would suggest to read up on epigenetics. Genes are not deterministic.
They need to be activated to have any effect.
Perhaps the wave will activate dormant genes?

 

[herondancer]

Diet apparently can also have the effect of turning genes on and off. The book Deep Nutrition talks about this. I haven't read it yet (on the list), but friends have talked about it. Like many of the other books, the author's don't have the whole banana, so it will need to be correlated with other research. The C's also discussed it. The questions were partly about a specific person, but the information does have wider application. Do read the whole session. It's fascinating

Q: (L) Okay. Psyche? (Psyche) Does {name redacted} have a brain chemical imbalance due to her food choices? (L) Well, why don't we get to the multiple system breakdown? What systems? Uh... Maybe that's the wrong question. They're trying to tell us to get to some really basic things here. (Psyche) Epigenetics?

A: Yes mainly, but also specific genetic line problems.

Q: (L) Let's try to ask some real simple questions and get through this. What are the primary parts of the systems that are broken down?

A: First, the gene expression has been altered after many years of abuse of the system design.

Q: (L) Is this something like what Gedgaudas writes about that once you’ve been eating carbs and grains and things for so many years, your body gets conditioned to it and it's very very difficult to switch over? Is that part of what it is?

A: Yes and more.

Q: (Ailen) Does your DNA get atrophied or something? (L) I don't know. I think it shuts down certain DNA. (Ailen) Because they're saying that the gene expression has been altered after many years of abuse of the system. (PoB) Is it reversible?

A: It is mostly reversible for {name redacted}, but more difficult for her child who is third generation.

Q: (L) So you're saying that her mother has also put her system through improper use of the natural genetic profile?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Okay. What's the next question? (Psyche) We were checking some statistics and we realized that full siblings of schizophrenics are nine times more likely than the general population to have schizophrenia, and four times more likely to have bipolar disorder. Is {name redacted} affected by this genetic tendency?

A: Oh indeed! However this requires explanation. First of all, the genetics that are associated with schizophrenia can be either a doorway or a barrier. Second, the manifestation of schizophrenia can take non-ordinary pathways. That is to say that diet can activate the pathway without the concomitant benefits.

Q: (Burma) I think that they're saying that schizophrenia could essentially be a way to be open to seeing other aspects of reality but diet can make it so it basically just makes you crazy without actually seeing anything.

A: Primitive societies that eat according to the normal diet for human beings do not have "schizophrenics", but they do have shamans who can "see".

Q: (Perceval) So a schizophrenic on animal fat is a shaman. (L) Well, wait a minute. There's something real subtle here. What I think you're saying is that when these genetic pathways are activated through wrong diet, it screws up the shamanic capacity?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) So, schizophrenia as we understand it or have witnessed it is a screw-up of something that could or might manifest in a completely different way on a different diet? Is that it?

A: Yes