Genetic Ancestry Highly Correlated With Ethnic and Linguistic Groups in Asia

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091210153546.htm

Genetic Ancestry Highly Correlated With Ethnic and Linguistic Groups in Asia

ScienceDaily (Dec. 10, 2009) — Several genome-wide studies of human genetic diversity have been conducted on European populations. Now, for the first time, these studies have been extended to 73 Southeast Asian (SEA) and East Asian (EA) populations.

In a paper titled, "Mapping Human Genetic Diversity in Asia," published online Science on 10 Dec. 2009, over 90 scientists from the Human Genome Organisation's (HUGO's) Pan-Asian SNP Consortium report that their study conducted within and between the different populations in the Asia continent showed that genetic ancestry was highly correlated with ethnic and linguistic groups.

The scientists also reported a clear increase in genetic diversity from northern to southern latitudes. Their findings also suggest that there was one major inflow of human migration into Asia arising from Southeast Asia, rather than multiple inflows from both southern and northern routes as previously proposed. This indicates that Southeast Asia was the major geographic source of East Asian and North Asian populations.

According to the study, the PanAsia SNP Initiative, the most recent common ancestors of Asians arrived first in India and later, some of them migrated to Thailand, and South to the lands known today as Malaysia, Indonesia, and the Philippines. The first group of settlers must have gone very far south before they settled successfully. These included the Malay Negritos , Philippine Negritos , the East Indonesians, and early settlers of the Pacific Islands. Thereafter, one or several groups of people migrated North, mixed with previous settlers there and, finally, formed various populations we now refer to as Austronesian, Austro-Asiatic, Tai-Kadai, Hmong-Mien, and Altaic.

The researchers noted that the geographical and linguistic basis of genetic subgroups in Asia clarifies the need for genetic stratification when conducting genetic and pharmacogenomic studies in this continent, and that human genetic mapping of Asia has important implications for the study of genetics and disease and for research to understand migratory patterns in human history.

HUGO President Edison Liu, M.D., who is Executive Director of the Genome Institute of Singapore (GIS), said, "This study was a milestone not only in the science that emerged, but the consortium that was formed. Ten Asian countries came together in the spirit of solidarity to understand how we were related as a people, and we finished with a truly Asian scientific community. We overcame shortage of funds and diverse operational constraints through partnerships, good will, and cultural sensitivity.

"Our next goal is to expand this collaboration to all of Asia including Central Asia and the Polynesian Islands," said Dr. Liu, one of the corresponding authors of the paper. "We also aim to be more detailed in our genomic analysis and plan to include structural variations, as well as over a million single nucleotide polymorphisms in the next analysis."

While HUGO initiated and coordinated the research, Dr. Liu pointed out, "Affymetrix, led by Dr. Giulia C. Kennedy and based in the US, is our primary technology partner in this endeavour. We greatly appreciate their support."

This seems to be even more interesting if the hypothesis of monogenesis of the human population is ignored for the moment, and the alternative hypothesis of multiregional repopulation of the globe after the last major cataclysm is considered. The connection between what is postulated as an initial migration of Negritos and a later northwards expansion of East Asians is a bit unclear, but the locus of an original East Asian population in Southeast Asia seems reasonable, allowing more recent (relatively speaking) migration northward following glacial retreat and possible admixture at that point with a different population spreading eastward from Europe and the Caucasus region.
 
Thank you Shijing for sharing this. I hope you will send us you clues while you dig on this subject.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koropokkuru ;)
 
sankara said:
Thank you Shijing for sharing this. I hope you will send us you clues while you dig on this subject.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koropokkuru ;)

Will do sankara, and thanks for the link -- I've never heard of the Koropokkuru until now, but it does seem like they could have been an aboriginal Negrito population. Negritos seem to have occupied a much wider range across Asia and Oceania in pre-history than they do now, and there is a lot there to be investigated. My pet interest right now is in establishing localized areas of post-cataclysmic dispersion of various ethnic groups after the hypothesized cataclysm of 12,000 or so years ago (and subsequent glaciation), so I am keeping my eye out for this kind of information and evidence.
 
Hello Shijing,

I didn't mean that the koropokkuru had any link with the negritos, it was just a wink to the multiethnic Japan :). I am not monomaniac :lol:, (multimaniac maybe)
I have spent some time in Korea as a student and I had the occasion to be interested in the Aïnous and their fate.

The Koropokkuru are like all the elementals we have here in Europe (Fairies elves, gnomus etc...), they must be their Asian counterparts :)

More seriously, your pet interest...interest me and Iwill be glad to hear news from your researches which are of great interest.

respect
 
sankara said:
I didn't mean that the koropokkuru had any link with the negritos, it was just a wink to the multiethnic Japan :). I am not monomaniac :lol:, (multimaniac maybe)
I have spent some time in Korea as a student and I had the occasion to be interested in the Aïnous and their fate.

Oh, OK -- I had associated you with an interest in Negritos from the other thread that you and E had been posting to, but I understand why you placed the link now. And yes, I may not have anything to say about general pre-cataclysmic enclaves really soon, but I am reading and researching in the background, and I hope to have something to write up about it at some point!

Kamsa hamnida :)
 
Anyon seyo! (I hope you are not older than I am, you social status is not superior to mine, otherwise sorry... Anyon ashimnika)

It is true that I have a great interest in Negritos and I would be glad to have any informations about them, on the different layers I have mentioned in the thread "Negritos in Jacques Vallée's passport to Magonia". So you were not wrong about it. Have you ever heard about the saying I quoted in this thread which said that it took to have black blood to be a Samouraï? Are there any mention of Negritos in Japan, in academic, in litterature, tales...

The fact is that it is not the only subject worth of interest :D.

I think that in this Negrito mystery lies a lot of points which could help us in drawing the 'Big Picture'. It should be of a special interest to Asians, since it is a part of your history which has almost never been adressed.

As to the Koropokkuru, Myazaki might have been inspired by them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbor_Totoro

Or maybe, these elemental creatures are common to Japanese on the main Island...

I have never heard of Negritos about Korea... This has nothing to do with this subject, and could be inserted in other thread, but in Korea, Shamans are Women, the Mudangs.

Respect
 
Shijin

If you think that there could be a link berween the Aïnou's Korropokuru and the Negritos as you said, could you give precisions about that? What about the Aïnous, would there be a link?

Thank you
 
sankara said:
Anyon seyo! (I hope you are not older than I am, you social status is not superior to mine, otherwise sorry... Anyon ashimnika)

Don't worry -- I'm not Korean and not bound by Korean social convention. I only know a bit of Korean, but I have more experience with Japanese and have a hard time keeping all of the social-register differences straight, so no worries!

sankara said:
Have you ever heard about the saying I quoted in this thread which said that it took to have black blood to be a Samouraï? Are there any mention of Negritos in Japan, in academic, in litterature, tales...

I haven't heard anything about the samurai quote, and to the best of my knowledge there is no mention of Negritos in Japan, although I am definitely not an expert in Japanese ethnography or mythology. The two minority groups usually discussed are the Ainu and the Burakumin, the latter being a social category of people who do the 'dirty' jobs that no one else will do, like butchering and street-cleaning. As far as I know, they are racially similar (if not identical) to other modern Japanese, but I don't know what their origins are.

sankara said:
I think that in this Negrito mystery lies a lot of points which could help us in drawing the 'Big Picture'. It should be of a special interest to Asians, since it is a part of your history which has almost never been adressed.

Actually, I'm not Asian (although my focus of study/research has been in Asia), but I agree that there is a lot that could probably be uncovered by exploring the history of the Negritos in Asia. Its interesting that in the article I posted at the beginning of this thread, the authors interpret the Negritos as being closer to Southeast Asians than other groups (which could be due to admixture, I think, as well as common genetic inheritance, but the admixture would have to be pretty ancient).

sankara said:
As to the Koropokkuru, Myazaki might have been inspired by them:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Neighbor_Totoro

Indeed -- I love Miyazaki generally, and I often wonder what his range of influences is since his stuff is usually pretty surreal to a greater or lesser extent.

sankara said:
I have never heard of Negritos about Korea... This has nothing to do with this subject, and could be inserted in other thread, but in Korea, Shamans are Women, the Mudangs.

That is of interest, for sure -- I don't know anything about it, but I think that Laura draws the conclusion in Secret History that women were the gender originally predisposed to shamanic work, and that the gender-bending in some cultures of shamanic males is due to their trying to usurp this position.

sankara said:
If you think that there could be a link berween the Aïnou's Korropokuru and the Negritos as you said, could you give precisions about that? What about the Aïnous, would there be a link?

Actually, I don't have any specific evidence outside of what you mentioned -- the description that you quoted of the Korropokuru is sort of reminiscent of how the native Taiwanese describe their own Negritos who apparently already lived on Taiwan when they migrated there from southern China. I merely thought it was suggestive, but if I turn anything else up I will definitely report it here.
 
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