German government calls for disaster preparedness

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The federal government wants to encourage the population again for stockpiling , so that they in the event of major disasters or of armed attack temporarily can take care of himself . " The population is stopped , hold up a personal supply of food of ten days
 
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It is based on a paper that was put forward already in 2012. It sounds like a preparation against the "russian threat", more then anything :rolleyes:
 
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Such announcements reinforce the already existing fear of an armed conflict. The least bring the emergency plan terrorist attacks in connection but with war. In my environment, the fear has already partially adopted grotesque, almost panicked and depressed / hopeless. Positive is a sudden increase in retail sales.
Personally, I am convinced that such reports are not just brought into the world, above all, it makes no sense for no reason a decision from 2012 in 2016 to inform the public without reason. Here in the countryside, people are much better prepared, the basic supply of BRD probably sufficient only for large cities. It is observed in the masses an absolute loss of trust in politics, creating plenty of room for further speculation.
 
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We can only wait and see what maybe is happening. I also thought that it was released to put some oil in the fire in the (non existing) Russian threat. On the other hand the German state NRW bought several million iodine tablets at the beginning of August, then the missing pistols and munition near Stuttgart, munition missing in one jail. With that the maybe like to lock down Germany and a terror threat is planned. But again, we can only wait see.
 
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I think that the attack in Munich already was present knowledge on a major attack. Munich, Frankfurt and Berlin would be media attention as big cities.
It turns anyway whether intelligence and government sources in advance have been aware of a possible major attack with multiple perpetrators in Munich and this was prevented by the quick response and the massive array of various security forces? Strangely enough, that were ordered within a very short time, special units like GSG 9 or the Austrian Special Force Cobra alongside 2300 policemen from southern Germany, to Munich?
Perhaps we should ask Richard Gutjahr, where his next journey. He has indeed the extraordinary talent locally to be (Nice and Munich).
There is something brewing, nationally and internationally. But basically it does not matter on which event to prepare ourselves in the self-sufficiency.
 
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Imo the attacks in Munich, Würzburg, Reutlingen and some other incidents weren't done by profis but imo are likely to be cases that ticked out and went amok, like in Nice and some other French cities at the same time.

Jean d`arc said:
Strangely enough, that were ordered within a very short time, special units like GSG 9 or the Austrian Special Force Cobra alongside 2300 policemen from southern Germany, to Munich?

I too think that they were quick, but maybe also because some these are special forces and they can get alerted within a very short time to be ready for action.
 
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I agree with Gawan on the nature of the recent German and French incidents. They seemed to be the acts of people who went off the deep end and were sort of imitating the actual professionals that, for example, turned up during the Paris shootings.
I was in Würzburg at the time the young guy went amok in the train there, and he attacked a group of people from Hong Kong before fleeing the scene, it was very random.
Regarding the topic, it does seem odd to suddenly encourage people to stockpile; all it does is make people uneasy about a potential major attack in the future. One that will be done by professionals?
 
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Eulenspiegel said:
Regarding the topic, it does seem odd to suddenly encourage people to stockpile; all it does is make people uneasy about a potential major attack in the future. One that will be done by professionals?

I was wondering about this, too. If we look at the result of officially telling people to stockpile, it's that people get alarmed or scared. If people put that together with the propaganda of Russian and muslim scapegoats, it looks like they're being primed (i.e. even more than already) for some incident to happen from the official 'bad guys'. If it does happen, people will have their confirmation that the PTB were right all along, or at least the PTB will have their justification for establishing a police state.

On the other hand, it is vital for people to have supplies on hand, so at least here's the official heads-up. Perhaps another part of it is seeing how people react to it?
 
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When you read between the lines you can read that this "order" seems to tell people to be ready for a war, or a war situation. Because they will ask people, if the law is done this Wednesday, to help the army also. They insinuated that is maybe for a future terrorist attack, that's why they need more money for their police. So yes, it is making people insecure, and that's what governments love. Maybe Wednesday we will know much more about this subject. A question also we can ask is: what are "they" doing while people are becoming scare about this news?

Is this about a future terrorist attack, a big one? A big, big one? Or because the monetary system will crash? Or because something from nature, like an asteroid, will come? And why just Germany? Are we in a "Phoney War" situation? I mean Germans.... Because in Spain we will be the last ones to be ready for anything.
 
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A feature of my people is probably the submission, you need a guide. Everything is regulated, standardized and mandatory. The state supplied, the state cares. For me, stockpiling is something normal, something that I have learned from my childhood. For that I need no policy that gives his heart to me. And now frightened the German Michel: Creating ten days inventories. Ten days ? Much too little for a war, far too much for a power outage. One puzzling: Why 10 days? Now there is the "everything is anyway good fraction" or "is not as hot as eaten cooked." So 10 days does not make sense - so all nonsense.
But the subtle reference to the threat to internal security? That does not fit anywhere into the picture. When I live heeled evening the assassination of Munich at N-TV, remembered this huge effort to Boston. Munich was completely isolated. Perhaps a test run? I suspect the tendency is emotionally towards a police state. Germany must not lose control, we are the command center of the USA. Just 70km from my home to start the drones from Ramstein, the US will never allow that here comes to a riot.
 
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[quote author= Jean d`arc]I suspect the tendency is emotionally towards a police state.[/quote]

It's likely I suppose that Germany is finally somewhat catching up that the US will continue on to further destabilize Europe through false flags to their bidding. The terror-attacks has caused a schism in society. Things are probably far worse than they projected, and it is growing more unstable every day.

They are not capable or willing to stand against US-dominance. So they just play dumb as a fox and attempt to turn things in their advancement were possible, any terror-attack works as an excuse to cling down on civil liberties.

I doubt Merkel wants 'civil war' It seems she is trying to calm things down, but clearly to no avail.

The general population had enough time to inform themselves correctly about the truth and cause of Radical Islam. But they rather choose for hatred and prejudice to take over.

They rather start to lynch innocent Muslims to vent their hatred when there breaking point has reached. And it's getting closer each day.

That could be the reason why Germany wants it's population prepared. Total anarchy and chaos can result in shortage of food. Shortage of food is a danger for the German Status Quo. OSIT.
 
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I think it's because the Russians and for refugees who have arrived in Germany (more than one million)
So, first it is officially made Germany, who's next?

More links:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/germans-asked-stockpile-food-water-044757109.html?nhp=1

http://www.dw.com/en/report-germany-to-require-citizens-to-stockpile-supplies-in-case-of-catastrophe/a-19491176
 
Germany Debates Putting "Troops On Streets" To Protect Against Terrorism

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-24/germany-debates-putting-troops-streets-protect-against-terrorism

The quiet German militarization continues to escalate.

One day after Germany's DPA broke the news that the Merkel government is considering "bringing back nationwide conscription in times of crisis", such as situations in which the country needs to "defend NATO’s external borders", strongly hinting at the possibility of a future war, which in turn followed this weekend's shocking announcement that Germans should prepare to stockpile several days of food and water "in case of an attack of catastrophe" as part of the country's revised "Civil Defense Concept, today NBC reports that "Germany Debates Putting Troops on Streets to Protect Against ISIS."

To be sure, plans to involve soldiers in counterterrorism operations. and the suggestion troops could also be used to beef up security in public places, have proved controversial in a country only seven decades "removed from totalitarian rule that's still grappling with guilt from the Nazi era." However, Wolfgang Bosbach, a lawmaker from Merkel's CDU party, dismissed an such concerns.

"During the recent terror threat in Munich the German armed forces, and also the military police, were put on alert," he told NBC News. "They have been deployed in other crises, so why should the military not help with domestic security as well?"

A court decision in 2012 allowed Germany's armed forces to be deployed at home for peacetime missions under an "extraordinary emergency situation of catastrophic dimension."

While "Bundeswehr" solders have since helped during flooding as well as providing logistical support during the migrant crisis, deploying troops in peacetime among the broader population is sure to lead to far broader populist concerns.

While some politicians suggested the influx of migrants and refugees had created security risks and called for tighter border controls, others warned against overreacting. Boris Pistorius, the justice minister in the state of Lower Saxony, told Die Welt newspaper that the three incidents in a week span "should clearly be distinguished" and that he would refrain from describing "the series of very different attacks as a wave of violence."

He added: "We are not there yet." But Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere stated that Germans are "living in difficult times" and that police forces are already "overstretched."

Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen recently announced that the German military would conduct counterterrorism training with police later this year. "There are scenarios we couldn't imagine before the attacks of Paris or Brussels but that we must address openly and for which we must prepare," she said.

A full blown military deployment may face logistical difficulties: with an overall contingent of under 200,000 personnel, the country's armed forces are spread thin while fulfilling peacekeeping missions in Afghanistan, Kosovo, Mali and in the the Mediterranean Sea. According to the German Armed Forces Association, many servicemen don't want to be used as "stopgaps at home."

"We favor the planned training under the leadership of police forces in order to assess a potential role of the armed forces in a large-scale terror scenario," said Lt. Col. André Wuestner, the group's head. "But it should not be our goal to protect train stations."

Wuestner said his counterparts in France and Belgium have warned that their domestic security duties — such as patrolling city centers — have kept them from training for their main responsibilities, such as missions abroad.

Some tried to push their own agenda: the head of Germany's police union suggested that better equipment and weapons offered a better answer than troops on the streets of Berlin, Frankfurt and Hamburg.

"What we don't need is for that the armed forces to fill a personnel gap, which would lead to a militarization of inner security," Rainer Wendt said.

Yet despite the seeming acceleration by Germany to militarize at any cost, some more sover voices did emerge, such as that of Christian Moelling, a security expert at the German Marshall Fund of the United States, told NBC News that conservative politicians appeared to be trying to capitalize on recent events as they sought to achieve their longstanding goal of allowing the military to deploy within the country's borders.

He noted that since the end of World War II, high hurdles had been established governing how the armed forces can be used and was skeptical that any push to change that would be successful.

"To use Germany's military for interior security, including the use of force, would necessitate a large majority for a constitutional change, and this majority doesn't exist," Moelling said, adding that at least two-thirds of parliamentarians would have to approve such a measure.

It can, however, quickly be achieved should there be a few more terrorist attacks on German soil, which will promptly provide the needed cover if not to change the constitution, than to implement an indefinite state of emergency, bypassing such pesky things as laws. As a reminder, France has had once since last November.
 
Doesn't look all that bright in germany...

Addding to what Pierre posted, here is more information about the new measures that are being discussed.

"In Preparation For Crisis" Germany Considers Bringing Back Military Service

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-23/preparation-crisis-germany-consider-reviving-military-service-ahead-potential-nato-d

If ordinary Germans were not traumatized enough by this weekend's shocking official announcement that they should prepare to stockpile several days of food and water "in case of an attack of catastrophe" as part of the country's revised "Civil Defense Concept", then the latest news from German press agency DPA, which cites a confidential document prepared by the government according to which the government is considering "bringing back nationwide conscription in times of crisis", such as situations in which the country needs to "defend NATO’s external borders," will surely put them over the edge.

"An attack on German territory that would require conventional defence is unlikely," the document said. However, civil defence measures are necessary because a "major security threat in the future cannot be ruled out," it added.

The German government abolished compulsory military service in 2011, arguing that there was no longer a geopolitical need for it. Even before then, many young men had avoided military service by opting to perform non-military service, such as working in care homes or in hospitals.

However, it appears that the government is now quietly considering its reintroduction under the controversial Civil Defense Plan, which is due to be discussed by the German cabinet on Wednesday, and focuses on fulfilling Germany’s obligations to defend NATO’s external border. However, as DPA adds, the proposal to revive military service is not readily apparent and can only be found buried in a section entitled “Civil support for the armed forces."

According to DPA, Germany is considering new security strategies after two terrorist attacks and a mass shooting last month, as well as tensions between the NATO military alliance and Russia about the 2014 annexation of Crimea and subsequent military involvement in eastern Ukraine.

“Quick and reliable delivery of mail especially important for the Bundeswehr (in particular, call-up papers and notices of performance in times of reintroduction of conscription) is ensured under Post- and Telecommunications Safety Act,” the draft reads according to the German press agency.

Adding to the unexpected militarization of German society, Defence Minister Ursula von der Leyen said earlier this month that the Bundeswehr would undergo training with federal police in preparation for deployment in domestic counterterrorism operations.

Should the government decide that there is sufficient grounds for it, conscription can be easily reintroduced as it is specifically authorized in the German constitution and can be returned with a simple law approved by the parliament, according to Die Zeit.

Apart from conscription, the German Interior Ministry’s paper also mentions the obligations of civilians and civilian organizations to assist the Bundeswehr in other ways, particularly by helping “recruitment organizations and accommodation infrastructure.” Some of the military’s support functions could also be outsourced to civilian companies, such as “a limited provision of catering for the troops during operations,” the paper reportedly says. In other words, should war break out German GDP will soar.

However, then the document goes far beyond modern-day military outsourcing tasks and discusses other proposals resembling war-time measures. Cited by RT, in times of crisis, the draft reads, the federal government can ensure “nutritional emergency preparedness” by imposing “tax obligations relating to cultivation, processing, distribution and sale of food products." The plan also includes the above mentioned suggestion to ration food and water in case of crisis.

As we reported on Sunday, the proposed “Civil Defense Concept” is the first time since the Cold War that the German government has considered such measures, but the plan was devised as early as 2012, according to Germany's FAZ newspaper.

The German cabinet will review and decide on the "defense concept" plan tomorrow, at which point - if endorsed - we will likely have more details on how Germany is preparing for war crisis.
 
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