Sum up for people interested in this topic
| EGYPT | 2200 BC | Egypt is located north of Europe | |
| 1627 BC | Thera volcanic eruption | |
| 1588 BC | Comet swarm | |
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| GREECE | 270 BC | "Greek enforcers":
- scribes (70 people)
- "Order of Thelon"
- "Jews and Samaritans"
Writing of "book of Moses", "Torah", "Pentateuch" | in contact with 4D STS |
| 428-347 BC | Plato, totalitarianism (intellectual, political?) | |
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| ROMANS | 100 BC | J. Caesar, born | |
| 44 AD | J. Caesar, dies | |
| 44 AD - 114 AD | Paul, true Christian religion | |
| 114 AD | 536 AD | Cometary event | |
| | Dark age; there's no late or middle Roman Empire | |
| 800 AD | Civilisation re-emerges, "Carolingians"
- increase of literature, writing, the arts, architecture, jurisprudence, liturgical reforms, and scriptural studies
- moral revival, "Carolingian Renaissance", centered on Christianity in general and on Constantine in particular
- Christianity has been re-invented
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| 1500-1600 AD | "Civilization has recovered from the cataclysms" | |
Note - the following bit is helpful to understand the dates for Caesar:
Session 18 September 2021
This is what I come up with, at first glance. Nothing new but the Egypt & Troy research adds up to the already existing model.
Studies of Caesar show the following model:
- great guy
- dies
- new leader, corruption
- anthropocosmic connection
- natural cataclysms
- dark age
- civilization re-emerges, history has been rewritten, based on several elements prior to the dark age, but twisted
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The forum identifies three big civilizations : Egypt, Greeks, Romans.
Were Egyptians and Greeks following the above model? Partly? Can the Egyptians and the Greeks help to discern additional variables?
- Greeks feature the rewriting of history, through "Greek enforcers", people in contact with 4D STS.
- Egyptians... Well, what can be said about them that Caesar does not show? I don't know. Their timeline may benefit from the indications raised by Caesar and/or Greeks. What to look for?
So
- Who were the "Greek enforcers" of the "Carolingians" (post-Caesar), who rewrote history?
Hint:
Were 460 years added to the official chronology?
The Franks appear antagonistics to "native Christians". I read the book History of the Franks, several times and I found out many many wrong things it it. There are copy-pastes of "War of Gauls", twisted in a very negative way. I would suppose that Gregory of Tours may be one of the "Roman enforcers".
- In the table, we see a tie to 4D STS, allowing to explain a lot of things (cf the "scribes")
- It's a link that historians & science never make. This is pure C knowledge and it helps put things in perspective
- It provides a huge contrast between original protagonists, such as Caesar and Paul: the illustration shows an oscillation from immense humanity towards 4D STS. In-between, events and "history". Comets, etc.
- History
Several observations:
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From Egypt, located North of France ... to Plato the totalitarian ... then Christ Caesar ... and "The mass of medieval tribes, Franks, Carolingians, Clovis, Charlemagne etc"
Punctuated by comets & volcanoes
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We stare at a civilizational shift (if not, partnerships, or even "relationships") from Greeks to Romans. If no shift, simply the study of balance.
Overall, big civilizations in motion.
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We may speculate about
the anthropocosmic connection:
- Putting an end to the Egyptian civilization?
- Why did the Greeks, after Plato's corruption, did not suffer from it?
- It happened at Caesar
Just trying to sum it up the best I can. Sorry for the redundancies, mistakes, etc.
Is it possible to build a timeline similar to this (?):
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I think you have the basic timeline pretty close in your chart.
I also try to remind myself that most of us with western educations and culture see ourselves as always being the dominant culture. Russia, Iran and Turkey are part of the European timeline with intersecting events and also their own completely different histories. India has the most complex timeline of all nations from the research I've seen here on the forum. China is like another planet from my perspective... All are effected by cataclysms and some level of reset. Synching them up is very hard. But there does seem a common theme.
I try not to get too invested in the details, and just try and learn from the overall message of history as we unravel it, as T.C. suggested above.
One thing about the "enforcers" manufacturing or changing history, is that it's not always as cut and dried as it seems.
When the original comment by the C's about the added years came out and who is responsible, they said "If there are any villains, it would be the Flavians and the Carolingians." They didn't have to start the sentence with IF.
That to me, is a clue that we should look deeper than just supposing that either group was just changing or distorting history for purely nefarious purposes.
In regards to the Carolingians, I don't think they understood the Roman mind at all. The literary device of the pericope that Laura highlights in FPTM and that Carotta touches on explains many of the distortions is a key overlooked factor for most modern historians.
I think to the the Roman mind, rhetoric and pericopes are reality to them. We would see it as a persuasive argument or metaphor. But I think they saw it as actuality.
After the comic changes following the plague of Justinian era - rhetoric and pericopes make no sense to the survivors. It's a Dark Age, crazy world of survival through any means possible - brutal violence, visions, dreams and amost certain death of the entire clan at any moment. What remains of Dark Age poetry and prose in Europe from that period reads very similarly to the Native North American accounts of their world to the first fur traders a thousand years later.
By the time the Carolingians arrive on the scene we have the beginning of a linear timeline of material historical events as reality. A necessary inheritance from the Dark Age predecessors as well as a result of the "cosmic atmosphere" changing in the wake of the cataclysms int he 6th century.
They read what remnants of Roman texts, stories and traditions they still had left through that new lens. What they reconstructed of the "fake" late empire and the rise of Christianity was probably a best guess situation that made sense for their own world view. Whether the cataclysms were misintepreted, or erased is the big issue. That's one aspect I can't figure out. I think that Laura wrote in Secret History of The World that she thought all the "Barbarian" attacks were likely replacements for cataclysms. That makes sense.
If I was to put myself in the Carolingian shoes, I would see it as imperative to create a unified narrative and history of Christendom to legitimize not only their authority, but to combat the threats of lingering paganism as well as the threat of Islam on their borders. And of course remove any heresies and build a single and Universal (Catholic) Church with a bureaucracy, structure and government behind it.
Yes, it's self-serving and there would be ponerological elements within. But, with the Carolingian system, history in itself was (and still is in many western minds) a success that provides the underlying foundation of western civilization. Most of academia today sees Roman or Greek civilization as the basis of the west's philosophies, education law etc. It is failing now, but it took a long time.
But the deeper I dig, the more I find western civilization is based on the Carolingian
interpretation of Greek and Roman civilization that was mostly made up and/or misintepreted. If you get a chance to read "The Ancient City", you can see that Rome was a completely different world from how it is portryed in the popular mind. What we have left of the Greek world before it, is just fragments missing large pieces and most likely even more alien than we could imagine from the 21st century west.
