Green Lantern

[kenlee]

I want to know what it's trying to do to my brain and to the brains of the people watching it.

Is it inspired by STS or STO forces?

Or is it just a bit of dream fluff trying to make me sleep more soundly?

I think the programming is part of it and it's necessary to see and become more conscious of the programming but IMO there's more to it then that. I was thinking that it is a mixture of both, much like a yin/yang symbol where you have good (STO), bad (STS), and then a mix of the two. The result of the mix is that you have 4 states. At the highest end of the ladder there is:
1) All Good.
Then at the next level below that you have 2) Mostly good with a little bad.
Then below that there is 3) Mostly bad with a little good
And then at the lowest level there is 4) All Bad.

That is VERY simply put of course! I think that it's also essential to understand the nature of STO, STS in an objective way without fooling oneself (which means a lot!), understanding and with a growing conscious awareness what it all means and how it applies to onself, being able to make the right choices at any given moment that would lead one into one direction or another and so on.

A good descpition of this 'blending' is given in the Wave here:
http://cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13a.htm

Q: (L) On a number of occasions we talked about the quorum and the Illuminati. They both seem to be the highest levels of secret organizations. What is their relationship to each other?
A: Quorum mostly alien; Illuminati mostly human. Meet; two halves of whole.
Q: (L) Well the Quorum was described as being in touch with the Cassiopaeans, that is, yourselves, which you have described as beneficial beings, or Service to Others oriented beings, is this correct?
A: Close.
Q: (L) The illuminati has been described as being behind or with the Brotherhood of the Serpent which you have described as being connected with the Lizard beings...
A: Close. But not that simple.
Q: (L) Well, if the Quorum are supposed to be the good guys and the Illuminati are supposed to be the bad guys, and they both are at the high levels of Freemasonry, what is the story here? I do NOT understand!
A: Picture a circle or cycle first, now then contemplate for a moment before follow up.
Q: (L) Okay, I am contemplating a cycling circle.
A: Now, two halves representing positive and negative. Two halves.
Q: (L) Well, what I am getting out of that is there are two halves and both sides are playing with the human race. Is that it?
A: No. This is complicated but if you can learn and understand, it will be a super revelation.
Q: (L) Well, go ahead and explain.
A: Ask step by step.
Q: (L) Why do we so often have to ask things step by step?
A: In order to absorb the information.
Q: (L) The Quorum is described as the good guys. The illuminati is described as bad guys. And yet, they are both drawn from higher Masonic ranks, or so it seems. When a person in the Masonic organization reaches the higher levels, are there individuals from these two groups that are essentially recruiting Masons to one side or the other?
A: First, not exactly one side or another.
Q: (L) I am beginning to not understand something here...
A: Unblock.
Q: (L) I don't have a block here. If the brotherhood AKA illuminati AKA Lizzies AKA Beast AKA Antichrist are the ones who are screwing around with human beings, planning to take over this planet, how are they related or connected to the Quorum which is in touch with...
A: This will take time to explain be patient it will be worth it. Ask step by step.
Q: (L) Okay. What is the nature of evil?
A: Blend.
Q: (L) I don't understand. Are the Lizzies what we would consider to be evil or STS?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are the Cassiopaeans what we would consider to be good or STO?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Yet, do the Cassiopaeans use and manipulate the Lizzies to accomplish certain things?
A: No.
Q: (L) The Lizzies work independently and in opposition to the Cassiopaeans?
A: Independently, not in opposition. We serve others therefore there is no opposition. Careful now. Step by step. If you do not fully understand answer ask another.
Q: (L) Part of a whole. Part of a circle.
A: Blend. Picture a blending colored circle image.
Q: (L) Are you saying that at some levels the two halves overlap in some way?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Are you saying that some of the Quorum are good guys and bad guys and the same for the Illuminati because the two are on opposing sides of the circle but at the point of blending one is weighted more to one side and the other to the other side? And these organizations are where the interactions come together?
A: Closer.
Q: (L) Well, I don't get it. Let's leave it for the time being.
A: No. Now please.
Q: (L) Okay. So it is a blending. Does it have something to do with ... in your case service to others means that you even serve those who serve self, is that correct?
A: Yes; we serve you and the Lizards have programed your race to self service remember.
Q: (L) So, I am still a Service to Self individual, is that correct?
A: But moving slowly toward Service to Others. Not all humans are.
Q: (L) Does this mean that when beings who are members of the Quorum or Illuminati call for information or help, that you, because of your service to others orientation are obliged to answer whoever calls?
A: Yes and no.
Q: (L) What is the no part.
A: If vibrational frequencies are out of pattern we do not connect.
Q: (L) Is the activity of the Lizzies part of an overall grand plan or design?
A: All is.
Q: (L) Let's go on.
A: Must answer question. You will feel ecstasy once answered.
Q: (L) Okay. A blending. Yet two halves.
A: Of a circle.
Q: (L) Who designed this circle?
A: Natural frequency wave. Some near conjunction blend both service patterns and each "camp" to create perfect balance.
Q: (L) Okay, so the Illuminati are the higher level on the pathway of Service to Self and somehow, by reaching these higher levels may even come to the realizations or frequencies which have caused their position to be modified or blended to where service to self becomes or incorporates or moves them to service to others realizations, is this correct?
A: Continue.
Q: (L) Okay, the beings in the Quorum are those who are focused on Service to Others and they, in their pathway of Service to Others begin to understand that some Service to Others includes refusing to give to those who are Service to Self?
A: Close.
Q: (L) And the whole idea is to blend both pathways no matter which direction you come to it from?
A: Service to Others provides the perfect balance of those two realities; Service to Self is the diametrical opposite closing the grand cycle in perfect balance.
Q: (L) So it is necessary to have a pathway of Service to Self in order for the pathway of Service to Others to exist?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And those who are in the Quorum and the Illuminati ...
A: Blends in middle.
Q: (L) So it is necessary to have the darkness in order to have the light...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And both the Quorum and Illuminati are drawn from the higher level Masonic organizations...
A: Freemasonry is human reflection in physical of these processes.

 

[melatonin]

I see a trend with films like this.
They mix up the message that much that its hard to see if its positive or negative.

**Some Spoilers**


So a guy from planet earth (whos a pawn for the military), gets super-powers and the only people you see him saving are the 'Global Elite' military aircraft manufacturers! Yeah... nice work super-hero!

The average joes on the street were exterminated and had their souls removed.

To confuse even more, at the start of the film he bodged up their plan for a new contract, then (without saying why) suddenly they are celebrating a new contract again towards the end.
Its about brainwashing people to see the bad guys as good, and to make out the Elite are fighting for the good of humanity.
Thats how i saw it.

 

[dannybananny]

Q: (L) And both the Quorum and Illuminati are drawn from the higher level Masonic organizations...
A: Freemasonry is human reflection in physical of these processes.

Does it mean that some Freemason orders are under Illuminati and some other under Quorum? But didn't they say that Freemasonry is Overseer of Quorum status? This is a bit contradictory when you look at it.

Its about brainwashing people to see the bad guys as good, and to make out the Elite are fighting for the good of humanity.
Thats how i saw it.

i was more concentrated on the hero role but it seems like this is how they portray Elite, and maybe all this thing with some space alliance that protects the Universe is just preparing people for 4D STS coming as "saviors", but there was talk also in movie that there aren't aliens that have been discovered as "conspiracy theorist" say, but also that elite is not interested in revealing to the public when that pink dude crashed!

 

[Woodsman]

I think the programming is part of it and it's necessary to see and become more conscious of the programming but IMO there's more to it then that. I was thinking that it is a mixture of both, much like a yin/yang symbol where you have good (STO), bad (STS), and then a mix of the two. The result of the mix is that you have 4 states. At the highest end of the ladder there is:
1) All Good.
Then at the next level below that you have 2) Mostly good with a little bad.
Then below that there is 3) Mostly bad with a little good
And then at the lowest level there is 4) All Bad.

That is VERY simply put of course! I think that it's also essential to understand the nature of STO, STS in an objective way without fooling oneself (which means a lot!), understanding and with a growing conscious awareness what it all means and how it applies to onself, being able to make the right choices at any given moment that would lead one into one direction or another and so on.

A good descpition of this 'blending' is given in the Wave here:
http://cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13a.htm

[. . .]

I'd not read that quote in a while, but I was thinking about it just yesterday. I find the cyclical nature of this sort of thing very curious and wonder if whole organizations can go through complete reversals. I look at some of today's versions of Christianity which involve things like scripture references stamped on military rifles and born again Neocon psychopaths. Considering Jesus' origin and intentions, a definite curve becomes obvious. But then I see other groups, like the Sott group, for instance, working to uncover the original root structure. There's a sort of circle in that, though not a direct route or lineage. It seems more to be different frequencies of people being drawn to different quadrants of the same circle.

So when it comes to a film, I'd agree with you that there are, in it's simplest form, going to be degrees of resonance apparent. What I'm interested in is exploring the examples in media messages and identifying those resonances and how they work and what they are saying to the subconscious. An exercise in objective awareness.

I see a trend with films like this.
They mix up the message that much that its hard to see if its positive or negative.

**Some Spoilers**


So a guy from planet earth (whos a pawn for the military), gets super-powers and the only people you see him saving are the 'Global Elite' military aircraft manufacturers! Yeah... nice work super-hero!

The average joes on the street were exterminated and had their souls removed.

To confuse even more, at the start of the film he bodged up their plan for a new contract, then (without saying why) suddenly they are celebrating a new contract again towards the end.
Its about brainwashing people to see the bad guys as good, and to make out the Elite are fighting for the good of humanity.
Thats how i saw it.

Thank-you. Those are the kinds of patterns I find fascinating.

 

[melatonin]

Q: (L) And both the Quorum and Illuminati are drawn from the higher level Masonic organizations...
A: Freemasonry is human reflection in physical of these processes.

Does it mean that some Freemason orders are under Illuminati and some other under Quorum? But didn't they say that Freemasonry is Overseer of Quorum status? This is a bit contradictory when you look at it.

Its about brainwashing people to see the bad guys as good, and to make out the Elite are fighting for the good of humanity.
Thats how i saw it.

i was more concentrated on the hero role but it seems like this is how they portray Elite, and maybe all this thing with some space alliance that protects the Universe is just preparing people for 4D STS coming as "saviors", but there was talk also in movie that there aren't aliens that have been discovered as "conspiracy theorist" say, but also that elite is not interested in revealing to the public when that pink dude crashed!

They werent even intrested in saving Earth (the 'wise elder type aliens') - and in the end they didnt even help!
He even gave a speech to them about humans being "imperfect" etc etc - as far as im aware they didnt even reply, lol.
Obviously not to impressed with the human race, and the fact that many hide behind their imperfections for living in ignorance in such a messed up world!
You could read that like "its up to you to help yourselfs, we arent intefering".
And also - if you become fearless, and you have the will to change things, you can save your planet, you dont need higher level beings/alien interference?

Edited - Added couple of words.

 

[Graalsword]

I'd not read that quote in a while, but I was thinking about it just yesterday. I find the cyclical nature of this sort of thing very curious and wonder if whole organizations can go through complete reversals. I look at some of today's versions of Christianity which involve things like scripture references stamped on military rifles and born again Neocon psychopaths. Considering Jesus' origin and intentions, a definite curve becomes obvious. But then I see other groups, like the Sott group, for instance, working to uncover the original root structure. There's a sort of circle in that, though not a direct route or lineage. It seems more to be different frequencies of people being drawn to different quadrants of the same circle.

Very interesting description. What you say seems to be the case. Many organizations, religions, groups, have passed such a cicle and circle in both directions, ending up in the opposite side.

So when it comes to a film, I'd agree with you that there are, in it's simplest form, going to be degrees of resonance apparent. What I'm interested in is exploring the examples in media messages and identifying those resonances and how they work and what they are saying to the subconscious. An exercise in objective awareness.

While reading what you say, I was thinking that maybe there are, as in most cases, many levels of perception and interpretation for both STS and STO, and different people get a different message, so to say.

So some would catch some STO influence (being able to discern which is which), some others will catch STS, and both in different depth levels.

I don't know whether the filmmakers of this film, for instance, know what they do, I mean, whether they purpotedly put STS things or STO things, and some opposite influence make it through their heads, or they just catch the thoughts floating in the ether sent by those underground aryan guys of the Thor's Pantheum or whatever, or they have certain people around them trying to convince them of adding this or that in the movie or the movie company tells them "ok, you can put this, you can't put that". Or maybe a combination of all.

 

[cubbex]

:P the deep meaning found on green lantern? DC comics has some cosmic ultra big stories talking about parallel worlds, dimensions, quantum whatever theories about dark energy, end of the cosmos, light group of heroes, consortium.

I think that by pure nature when men try to imagine cosmic dramas with evil and powerfull villains, by the side of heroes with a high morality, I think you came to create groups that would appear as the Quorum, or by applying a logic, to create dramas even so similar to reality, until you see that reality is a little more complex and amazing than fiction.

But indeed, interesting interpretation, I hope to hear your comments from stories created by DC more complex than the movie one.

 

[knowledge_of_self]

Given that media is one of the primary control surfaces being used to manipulate our reality, and given that every bit of wide-appeal pop culture is without question, a piece of mind programming, I'm a lot less interested in whether this film was entertaining or well-acted or what have you.

I want to know what it's trying to do to my brain and to the brains of the people watching it.

Is it inspired by STS or STO forces?

Or is it just a bit of dream fluff trying to make me sleep more soundly?

I think it's a bit of all of the above in this case. I think one thing we have to remember is that these types of movies are usually made as big budget to make money and that's it. Most if not all the Marvel movies that have been made, have been grossly misinterpreted in the movie versions.

As I said earlier in this thread, I wasn't too familiar with the Green Lantern comics so I checked the synopsis of it on Wikipedia and boy is it different, and sounded way cooler than the movie.

But.. having said all that- I still don't think the movie was all that bad, because I've seen the kind of crap they've been coming out with lately and this one isn't bad compared to most things out there. It teaches kids about the power of will vs. the power of fear which is imo a wholesome lesson, but there is not much more to it than this.

For me.. I usually go into these films (Marvel) expecting the worst and get surprised when it's not as bad as I thought it was going to be. But every time I've gone into a movie thinking it's going to be great I've been mostly dissapointed, point in case the Xmen and Spider man movies.

So I say it's fluff, with a nice message and good graphics. It's a good down-time movie, so don't go into it expecting your mind to get blown away, cause it wont.