Greenland - a geopolitical space on the global chess board?

[thorbiorn]

Some notes on the Greenland development.

Denmark generally supports the US
Having looked at the European engagement in the Iraq war, Denmark was helped mobilize support, The PM at the time later became Nato Secretary General.
It was also helpful networking and supporting for Nato expansion, to get the Baltic States and and Poland into NATO, later Sweden and Finland.
Denmark also helped with Ukraine. The picture in the parliament was 173 members with one who voting no later left the parliament. Massive support or silence, abstention and absence. They can discuss for months if some comparatively small infrastructure project should go ahead, have a few protests or some strike for the nurses to get a little more, back and forth, but Ukraine? The numbers speak:
From the Kiel Institute:

Some headlines
The EU is addicted to American economic punishment Opinion, RT Jan 21

The bloc’s dependence on US natural gas is reportedly on its way to 80%

Putin says who owns Greenland is of no concern to Russia, says it might be worth $1 billion Jan 22, in Jerusalem Post from Reuters

Using the price at which Russia sold Alaska to the US as a reference and accounting for price adjustments, Putin said buying Greenland from Denmark could cost around $1 billion.

Denmark always treated Greenland ‘like a colony’ – Putin RT Jan 22

Note: What Russian thinks of Greenland, rarely gets reported in the Danish press, though some officials probably know.​

‘I’m not gonna pay anything’ – Trump on Greenland RT Jan 22
US expects Greenland resources as compensation for ‘protection’ – Vance RT Jan 23
Does Russia need Greenland’s resources? EXPLAINER RT Jan 24 Guess what? No!
European politicians ‘unable to withstand’ Trump’s pressure – Peskov RT Jan 25

The US president’s methods do not quite align with Russia’s approach to a multipolar world, the Kremlin spokesman has said

Russia and US won’t talk to EU’s Kallas – Kremlin RT Jan 26

President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov has accused the bloc’s leadership of incompetence
[...]
In an interview with Russia-1 journalist Pavel Zarubin which aired on Sunday, President Vladimir Putin’s spokesman described the current EU leadership as “incompetent,” adding that its actions “undermine the system of international relations.”

“How can you discuss anything with Kaja Kallas? Neither we will ever discuss anything with her, nor will the Americans, and this is obvious. We can only wait until she leaves,” Peskov said.

He argued that Brussels was packed with “semi-literate, incompetent functionaries who are unable to look into the future or understand the realities of today.”

Kallas, a former prime minister of Estonia, is known for repeatedly calling for tougher sanctions on Russia and increased military support for Ukraine. Last year, she dismissed US President Donald Trump’s roadmap for peace between Russia and Ukraine, arguing that territorial concessions to Moscow would be “a trap that Putin wants us to walk into.”

More recently, Kallas has criticized Trump’s plans to annex Greenland, saying transatlantic relations had “taken a big blow” as a result of his policies.
[...]

Kallas is an outstanding example, but are the people in most EU countries including the Danish Government much better?
If one thinks of how the Scandinavian politicians helped the Baltics to get on board, then it is not a great development for the US. It could indicate that some people will tone down their infatuation with the US if not the Western project. Danish tourism to the US has dropped so much that tour agents are stunned. About two % of the population has joined an FB group Boycott goods from the USA

Opposition or acceptance?
Denmark has two national anthems, one is about the beauty of nature of the land where the ancestors moved around. The other references a war effort against Sweden, so there is a tendency to create unity by rallying around opposition to an enemy, but not only.

Denmark is one of only two countries in the world—the other being New Zealand—with two official national anthems of equal status. Officially, Kong Christian stod ved højen mast is both a national and a royal anthem; it has equal status with Der er et yndigt land, which is treated as the civil national anthem. At sports events and other civil events, Der er et yndigt land is the one played.

Rallying against a perceived enemy is perhaps what is going on in the next satire made by the Danish public radio Danmarks Radio channel 3. I think they have made it inclusive by selecting the two main actors, a satire video with mixed reviews

From Syrian Girl

Well there is an old idea of Giving Greenland to the Palestinians, from a comedy that ran in 2002:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2014201920689455558

One Danish paper had this drawing:

And Rutte strikes back:
EU can’t defend itself without US – NATO chief 26 Jan, 2026 20:22

Those in the bloc who think otherwise can “keep dreaming,” Mark Rutte has told the European Parliament

Rutte is mentioned in an opinion piece from the small Danish media, Arbejderen.dk. They review history and conclude that things are likely to turn out as they usually do. Translated from Danish with various apps there is:

Danish backroom deal about Greenland
Not many days ago, the streets of Denmark's largest cities were filled with Greenlandic flags and crowds demonstrating for Greenlanders' right to decide in their own country.

That struggle continues on a daily basis, and here it is worth remembering that Denmark and the Danish government have a long-standing tradition of making secret agreements with the Americans without both the Greenlandic and Danish populations.

One example is the Thule base, where 127 Greenlanders were forcibly relocated at a few days' notice to make room for the American military base in 1953.

The base was a result of the agreement between Denmark and the United States from 1951, which gave the Americans free rein to establish themselves militarily on the island. That agreement was also made without the Greenlanders themselves.

The Americans used the Thule base to store and transport nuclear weapons in violation of Danish law, which the Danish government kept hidden from both Greenlanders and Danes.

When an American bomber with nuclear weapons crashed in 1968, the radiation danger was therefore also kept hidden for years from both the local population and the workers who were assigned to clean up after the accident – with fatal injuries as a result.

In 2008, it was revealed that the CIA flew prisoners of war through Greenlandic airspace and made a stopover on the island on their way to places where the suspects were subjected to illegal torture.

In all the cases, Danish top politicians have allowed the United States to do everything they asked for, and then lied to their own people.

Therefore, it is quite possible that Lars Løkke and company are still ready to sell or give Greenland to Trump under the table, as long as they do not have to formally relinquish territory or sovereignty. As long as the formal commonwealth exists, there is a broad framework. This is how Danish governments have traded with the island for decades without petty regard for democracy, Greenlandic sovereignty or international law.

The attack on the Danish Realm – which is now mostly called the Kingdom – has gotten the normally so compliant government politicians out of their chairs. Here we have sent young Danes to their deaths for years to please the United States, and is this the thank you, it sounds with righteous indignation.

When they sent Denmark to war together with the United States, the justification was that the Danish soldiers should fight for freedom and democracy and not just to strategically link us to the United States, but now the politicians can speak more freely.

The problem is that Donald Trump has ruined the good atmosphere by openly claiming the island in the possession of the United States under his own flag. It is an awkward break with the tact and tone that usually prevails discretely between Washington and Copenhagen.

Trump himself says that the ownership of Greenland is not only about defensive weapons, but also about offensive weapons that can be aimed at the rest of the world with the so-called Golden Dome.

It can only be understood as a direct threat to America's rivals and to world peace. Trump will be able to attack others without being hit himself. It does not increase the security of Denmark or Greenland, but on the contrary makes the island a strategic military target.

NATO's sleazy Secretary General Mark Rutte has apparently made a deal with Trump outside Greenland, an agreement that was supposed to be about bases, territory and the extraction of minerals. A blatant attack on the Greenlanders' self-determination, which should be strongly condemned from all sides, not least the Danish government. That has not happened.

The so-called agreement helps to put Greenlanders under even more inhuman pressure to open their land and subsoil to US supremacy and interests.

They still need our support so as not to be sacrificed in the games of the great powers. Not least in view of the shenanigans and hidden agreements of successive Danish governments.

The above article is good news for those who support the policies of the Trump administration. It is also good news for the Danes who would prefer to continue as if nothing has happened. For others who already have noticed a pattern, they can be confirmed in their understanding. One day one might even find an article arguing that the way the Danish Government relates to the US is reminiscent of how the Danish Government interacted with the German Government of the early 1940s. Readers of such an article might then ask if that is different from being guided by NATO requirements, or by un-elected EU officials, NGOs, London shadow bankers, Zionists, or still deeper levels of the World Government?

"They still need our support", wrote the Danish article. They might be right, though not as they imagine:

Great business in other words, or:

Business as usual
Scott Ritter has a comment on his Substack. The background is that he drove leisurely through America and learned something. Now he does not think the US can do much better in Greenland, than what is there already, or better than it has done in other places.

Don't Drink the Water
The United States seeks to impose its will on the people of Greenland. Many are shocked by this flagrant disregard for issues of sovereignty. But as history shows, it is just business as usual.
Scott Ritter Jan 18, 2026

And what is the business?
China Xinhua News has a perspective, which reminds one of the videos that have circulated about Ukrainian President, Zelensky, but this context is different:

@XHNews
Jan 14
Getting High on #Hegemony#US #Venezuela #Iran #Greenland #Imperialism

Trump happens to be the one trying to do what he might have been told to do, and he does it his way. This post has:

I just noticed the first post was on Jan 16, 2025. What will the status be in one year from now?

 

[Voyageur]

Minneapolis and Grand Forks are pretty opposite.

Good one.

The term, "Hard line Winnipeg", wouldn't make any sense if you're not from here, but I'm pretty much that.

Yeah, understood, and close, yet not being from Winnipeg.

I see no derailing going on, just the networking necessary for keeping the fires of transformation lit and preventing us from going back to sleep. It's healthy for any discussion of a given topic to turn into a conversation about our differences, our biases, etc. Being able to think critically about the way we think is the underlying goal of every thread.

Yes, these fires do help, they help each to navigate these immediate times, times that are in many ways foreign to many, of just how things are seen - to help look at our likes and dislikes in the full meaning of Madame de Salzmann (her Birthday was yesterday), to try and help get a handle on the internal and external.

One can see each POV in reading above from where people are at, while also acknowledging differences. There is also the not knowing of the the others shoes without getting overly down on each other, hence this is a learning forum on the nature of objective reality, which includes self-learning - the hardest part.

Generally, people on the form have seen things and followed new aspects - as a study and just as much as realities quickly change on the surface. In geopolitical speak, from Bush to Obama, to the nightmare of Clinton's grasp at the glass ceiling and the relief as she faced that reality (can it even be imagined what things might have look like now if she had won? - shivering timbers). Trump was fresh and full of promises, while also being blocked at every stage. The nightmare then resumed fast enough, with the sleepwalking autopen who became simply the perfect puppets for the covid and the Slava Ukraine years, toped off with the most abject genocide to hit reality in decades. And now Trump is back, he had even being shot in a world that came out of its covidsleep, while also being somewhat more retarded at its leadership level, at least (Canada, the EU etcetera).

The danger of getting too close with our leaders, one way or the other (the reason many people are here on the forum in the first place), is in working/networking to understand our STS existence, and what looks to be a hyperdimensional mass influence on us all. If that is so, it is way beyond the abilities of Trump or other leaders to handle, if they even ever think about it. It is more possible that those influences stay their hands or move them to enact outcomes.

Well in hindsight Germany probably had a better option than Hitler. In hindsight the U.S. probably still didn't have a better option than Trump.

In Germany, at one point, yes, and yet it seems the machinery had, even externally, been set in motion and the rest is history. As for hindsight, yes, that is probably so, given what came before him in prior administrations (and as mentioned above regarding Clinton). What a mess for anyone to try to clean-up (just how could that even be done) - for anyone, including Trump, given how the system works. Can it be said that despite the obstacles, that Trump's path was laid down - I mean, it costs a kings ransom to get elected, and the ptb do like their two-horse races, although with Trump, many of them may not have put the halter on tight enough. Daresay he is like no other in the race (agree, the "big miscalculation") as by his actions, he is helping to opening everything up - good, bad, ugly, so much is getting exposed, along with deep seeded divisions.

That said, from the first election round to present:

2016

(L) I would imagine that Trump, if he were to get it, he's in for his own set of surprises...

A: Yes

Oh boy, was that true.

2024

L) Well, I don't think so because the C's - long before Trump came on the scene and ran for president, and we were watching everything going south at that time - said there was going to be a big miscalculation made, and it was going to expose everything. And that's exactly what happened: Trump was elected because of a big miscalculation. I mean, they didn't realize how many votes they were going to have to fake for Hillary in order to overcome the massive turnout for Trump. And they simply were not prepared. And he was, I believe, a big miscalculation. I mean, maybe they've done a lot of adjusting and they've gotten to him since then. But at the time, he was a big miscalculation. And he wasn't “allowed”. He wasn't allowed to do anything! He managed to get some things done, but I mean, they fought him every freaking inch of the way. And they spent all the time trying to take his money through lawsuits and, his time, his energy, to destroy his mind, his health, everything. I mean, no, you know, anybody who can't see that I don't think can see anything.

November 2024: (this is determination):

(Carl) How many real living US citizens cast a legitimate vote for Donald Trump in the recent election, to the nearest million?

(Joe) Real citizens?

(L) Real citizens that are registered to vote.

A: Close to 100.

Q: (L) Close to 100 million?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And for Kamala?

A: Less than 23

Q: (Joe) So 75% for Trump.

Those are like Putin numbers, of the chart.

August 2025

(Joe) What is the real reason that Thump is so completely committed to support of Israel?

A: Partly family pressure {Jared more than likely} but also blackmail. Not so much anything that Trump has done, but what can be done to him or his family.

That is a perspective that can't be dismissed, while knowing what is know of the septic field below his feet.

Charlie:

September 2025

(Andromeda) Look, they gave a gold pager to Trump and they were so proud of it!

(L) And that was just before Charlie Kirk was killed, right?

(Niall) No, the pagers was last year, but the day before, they had attempted to take out the Hamas leadership in Qatar, which was a new thing, because they had never bombed a US ally before.

(Joe) They're getting very flagrant. But yeah, Charlie Kirk being assassinated that way... it just has Israeli pagers written all over.

(Andromeda) Totally.

Truth and Lies

(Beau) Is Trump aware that he is ordering the bombing of innocent civilians?

A: Not so much.

Q: (Joe) Because he's fed lines of bullshit by his…

(L) Yeah, he's got all those people around him that don't tell him the truth.

He’s a jerk. But he’s not Hitler.

Yes, and no he is not.

No, I’m not. I’m comparing the American people who support anything Trump does to the Germans who supported Hitler.

Fwiw, I saw no slight on the American people with what was said by T.C., and no imagery of Trump being Hitler.

Yes, right, back to Greenland:

This reminded me of something read just after Trump was elected concerning blocks, three blocks adapted to increased GDP through populations and land base (the theory was that under current ways, nothing would survive).

A: Laura, my dear, if you really want to reveal "many beautiful and amazing things," all you need to do is remember the triad, the trilogy, the trinity, and look always for the triplicative connecting clue profile. Connect the threes... do not rest until you have found three beautifully balancing meanings!!

Q: So, in everything there are three aspects?

A: And why? Because it is the realm of the three that you occupy. In order to possess the keys to the next level, just master the Third Man Theme, then move on with grace and anticipation.

The article is by Thierry Meyssan:

The world map established at the Anchorage summit on August 15, 2025. The world map is divided into three zones of influence. These are indicated in general terms and are currently being negotiated with greater precision.

The Reorganization of the World, by Thierry Meyssan

The world is changing very quickly. The year 2026 should be marked by the return of spheres of influence and the end of colonial empires. Above all, it will see the return of international law to the rules we have known until now. Only those who are able to understand these developments and...

www.voltairenet.org

The world is changing very quickly. The year 2026 should be marked by the return of spheres of influence and the end of colonial empires. Above all, it will see the return of international law to the rules we have known until now. Only those who are able to understand these developments and adapt to them quickly will continue to thrive.

[...]

I explained in my last column that, contrary to popular belief, while the United States may have committed a crime by abducting President Maduro, according to previous rules, they were within their rights to do so, based solely on their commitments. Whether one finds this reality shocking changes nothing. This is now how we must operate.

Until now, the world was governed by the G5/6/7/8/7, formerly composed of Germany, Canada, France, the United States, Italy, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the European Union.

Its demise marks the end of the British and French empires. We must acknowledge that France will have to decolonize New Caledonia and French Polynesia; the United States will have to decolonize Samoa, Guam, and the Virgin Islands; New Zealand will have to decolonize Tokelau; and the United Kingdom will have to decolonize Angilla, Bermuda, the Virgin Islands, the Cayman and Falkland Islands, Gibraltar, Montserrat, Saint Helena, and the Turks and Caicos Islands. This will have to be done very quickly if France, the United Kingdom, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom wish to maintain a presence in their former colonies.

It is likely that the Commonwealth will disintegrate. Its member states will, at the very least, abandon their shared citizenship.

[...]

I won’t discuss NATO, which will be dissolved by mid-2027, or sooner if the transfer of Greenland from Denmark to the US allows. The admonitions of a few Europeans will change nothing: they will wage war on the United States no more than they will on Russia.

This is the second time I've seen this, and not saying that this will happen either (it will not go over well), yet something has to give if not for the likes of humanity itself or, fault lines, volcanos - more weather and even space weather.

It is going to get more interesting, and y'all take good care.

 

[SummerLite]

Hello, I'm back. I've been thinking about our last conversation. I've explained before, years ago, of how the American people where fooled into thinking their government was doing good when they where doing hideous things. I looked at my parents, other family members and all the people around me in general and to this day, all I see are decent people. Like any other country that also has corruption at the top.

It means being a victim of evil rulers making you think your country isn't evil. Probably a better way to say that.

Well, this isn't quite right either. The country, who I consider the people, isn't evil, the government is. The gov told the people they where doing good so the people would accept it. If the people where rotten they could be told the truth and they'd go along with it. From a early age I knew this about the government and the people. I really started seriously down the rabbit hole after 9/11 and many others began waking up then also.

So to say an American is ponerized because they think their country is good when its evil isn't correct. If one is a patriot that loves their country its because they know this goodness and respect the basic principles it was founded upon and detest how that was stolen and so degraded more recently. This is separate from the government. Trump rekindled this love of country and exposed the corruption. We'd all be in the gulag or dead if Hillary or Kamala got in. Lots of new things are going on and it isn't clear where its going yet.

This wasn't what I was going to say exactly but it does cover my gripe about the ponerization statement. Part of conquering a country includes demoralizing the people, eroding the values that hold people together as a functioning society. Patriotism or love of country needs to go otherwise people may object to that being destroyed. Worked well with the lefties along with Machiavelli #1 divide and conquer.