Gurdjieff’s 'Views From the Real World'

CarpeDiem

Jedi Council Member
I just wanted to write a couple of words that Universe sometimes might indeed work in mysterious ways!
I spent yesterday and a half day today on preparing documents, filling forms, running from office to office, opening a ‘special’ account … just to apply for a monthly ‘obligatory’ financial help from the state for kid (you spend the same time applying for ‘help’ and filling forms to refuse it). So I was busily running from office to office and furiously lamenting in my mind that instead of doing that ugly paperwork which will result in ‘much ado about nothing’ as ‘state help’ for kid is enough to buy exactly one pack of pampers; I should had better dedicate that time to reading as I’m deadly behind a schedule. With these angry thoughts I entered a nearby bookstore where I had to make a copy of one more document (they for a strange reason couldn’t tell you the list of necessary doc’s all at once, but instead are sending you from here to there ad infinitum). There were high bookshelves everywhere, a copier was on the right, but strangely I had to look to the left first, at the very top of the bookshelf. I didn’t see other books, vision at that moment was impaired, I saw only Gurdjieff name. That was ‘A Glimpse from the Real World’ and ‘Encounters with Remarkable Men’. I already read Encounters, but didn’t know anything about the other book. I knew that I didn’t have enough money to buy it immediately, but I checked pockets. Zeez, there was an exact sum to buy the book, not more, not less. So, in the end that angry and ‘useless’ trip to do all paperwork ended marvelously.
There is one more Gurdjieff’s treasure to explore, and besides, my son will have a pack of pampers from our 'fair and balanced' state each month! :D
Someone read ‘Glimpses from the real world’?
 
Gurdjieff’s ‘Glimpses from the Real World’

Google search reveals only one entry for this title:

_http://www.darkage.ca/blog/_archives/2006/10/22/2436600.html
 
Gurdjieff’s ‘Glimpses from the Real World’

Sorry, i mis-translated the title. The English title is Views from the Real World
Early Talks of Gurdjieff in Moscow, Essentuki, Tiflis, Berlin, London, Paris, New York and Chicago. As Recollected by His Pupils
http:/(/www.gurdjieff.org/views.htm
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http:/(/www.amazon.com/Views-Real-World-Essentuki-Recollecte/dp/0140190643
 
Gurdjieff’s ‘Glimpses from the Real World’

That's what I thought when I read your post, about the title. I read Views from the Real world a few weeks ago. It's quite different from other Gurdjieff's books, not the same style of allegorical, pretty dense writing, even though I liked them all. The content and presentation of the ideas remind me a lot of what Ouspensky did In Search of the Miraculous.

Personally, I really liked the book. The ideas in Views from the Real world are similar to what you find in Gurdjieff's trilogy, but in my opinion, in a more applicable form, on many subjects of his teaching. There are many chapters that contain questions and answers, which are well made too. Another interesting point to read was, In search of the Miraculous, Ouspensky makes reference to a text Gurdjieff made him read one of the first time they met: Glimpses of Truth, the first chapter of the book, which puts some material in context.

Good reading!
 
Gurdjieff’s ‘Glimpses from the Real World’

Yes, I started that book by Gurdjieff also but could not finish it yet. It was the only turkish translated book of Gurdjieff I could find.
 
Re: Gurdjieff’s ‘Glimpses from the Real World’

I really liked the book. Gurdjieff goes into more detail about certain subjects than in ISOTM. It is helpful if you are already familiar with Gurdjieff's teachings.
 
Re: Gurdjieff’s ‘Views from the Real World’

Carpe said:
Sorry, i mis-translated the title. The English title is Views from the Real World
Early Talks of Gurdjieff in Moscow, Essentuki, Tiflis, Berlin, London, Paris, New York and Chicago. As Recollected by His Pupils
http:/(/www.gurdjieff.org/views.htm
sellers:
http:/(/us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780140190649,00.html
http:/(/www.erowid.org/library/books/views.shtml
http:/(/www.amazon.com/Views-Real-World-Essentuki-Recollecte/dp/0140190643

Excellent book! I just finished it and as usual with Gurdjieffs talks, it is highly recommended. In it early talks Gurdjieff are written down, as his pupils transcribed them. It is divided into different section about various topics. A very helpful book in addition with "In search of the Miraculous".

It can be found here:

https://www.amazon.com/Views-Real-World-Gurdjieff-Recollected/dp/0525228705
https://www.amazon.com/Views-Real-World-Essentuki-Recollecte/dp/0140190643

and here is a full audio version:

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzAwh8pE4w0


At the end of the book the 38 " aphorisms inscribed in a special script above the walls of the Study House at the Prieuré" are written down. I think they are a very useful reminder as is the rest of the book.

For anyone not familiar with Gurdjeff, the "Prieuré" was the working house Gurdjeff established in October 1922 called the "Institute for the Harmonious Development of Man". In this "Château Le Prieuré at Fontainebleau-Avon" Gurdjieff teached his methods, and the following "Aphorisms" hang over the study house:



The aphorismsinscribed in a special script above the walls of the Study House at the Prieuré:

1. Like what "it" does not like.

2. The highest that a man can attain is to be able to do.

3. The worse the conditions of life the more productive the work, always provided you remember the work.

4. Remember yourself always and everywhere.

5. Remember you come here having already understood the necessity of struggling with yourself—only with yourself. Therefore thank everyone who gives you the opportunity.

6. Here we can only direct and create conditions, but not help.

7. Know that this house can be useful only to those who have recognized their nothingness and who believe in the possibility of changing.

8. If you already know it is bad and do it, you commit a sin difficult to redress.

9. The chief means of happiness in this life is the ability to consider externally always, internally never.

10. Do not love art with your feelings.

11. A true sign of a good man is if he loves his father and mother.

12. Judge others by yourself and you will rarely be mistaken.

13. Only help him who is not an idler.

14. Respect every religion.

15. I love him who loves work.

16. We can only strive to be able to be Christians.

17. Don't judge a man by the tales of others.

18. Consider what people think of you—not what they say.

19. Take the understanding of the East and the knowledge of the West—and then seek.

20. Only he who can take care of what belongs to others may have his own.

21. Only conscious suffering has any sense.

22. It is better to be temporarily an egoist then never to be just.

23. Practice love first on animals, they are more sensitive.

24. By teaching others you will learn yourself.

25. Remember that here work is not for work's sake but is only a means.

26. Only he can be just who is able to put himself in the position of others.

27. If you have not by nature a critical mind your staying here is useless.

28. He who has freed himself of the disease of "tomorrow" has a chance to attain what he came here for.

29. Blessed is he who has a soul, blessed is he who has none, but woe and grief to him who has it in embryo.

30. Rest comes not from the quantity but from the quality of sleep.

31. Sleep little without regret.

32. The energy spent on active inner work is then and there transformed into a fresh supply, but that spent on passive work is lost for ever.

33. One of the best means for arousing the wish to work on yourself is to realize that you may die at any moment. But first you must learn how to keep it in mind.

34. Conscious love evokes the same in response. Emotional love evokes the opposite. Physical love depends on type and polarity.

35. Conscious faith is freedom. Emotional faith is slavery. Mechanical faith is foolishness.

36. Hope, when bold, is strength. Hope, with doubt, is cowardice. Hope, with fear, is weakness.

37. Man is given a definite number of experiences—economizing them, he prolongs his life.

38. Here there are neither Russians nor English, Jews nor Christians, but only those who pursue one aimto be able to be.
 
Just a heads up that this is the one to get:

https://www.amazon.com/Gurdjieffs-Early-Talks-1914-1931-Gurdjieff/dp/0957248113/

It includes all the Views talks, plus extras. As an added bonus, the talks are not edited, as they are in Views. They are exactly as originally transcribed (typos are fixed, though).
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Just a heads up that this is the one to get:

https://www.amazon.com/Gurdjieffs-Early-Talks-1914-1931-Gurdjieff/dp/0957248113/

It includes all the Views talks, plus extras. As an added bonus, the talks are not edited, as they are in Views. They are exactly as originally transcribed (typos are fixed, though).

Thank you for the recommendation. Excellent opportunity to review this material.
 
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