Have to move soon

[Meager1]

I have recently learned that the landlord wants to sell the house I`m living in and I`ll have to move soon.
I wasn`t expecting this.

The kids really don`t want to stay in Massachusetts and neither do I for that matter, but I don`t know where to go.

So I`m asking, if you had to move somewhere, where would you go, and why?

 

[adam7117]

Hi Meager1,

Well, in the US? It would have to be somewhere with lots of nature, where you can see stars at night. Probably away from the coast, with lots of hills around. I'm in Oz and can't be more specific with local names. But the reason I'm saying it is because nature is wonderful and it's great for the kids - and stars are really amazing at night - if you can see them.

I live in a CBD area and these are the things in short supply around here.

Thanks for bringing it up - I'm facing a similar problem at the moment. Except it is due to the fact that my landlord wants to increase the rent by $50 per week.

Good luck with your next big move - keep us all posted on how it turns out for ya. :)

 

[axj]

It seems like there is no perfect area to move to, at least not in the U.S. There are different kinds of dangers to consider when choosing your location:

- Tsunamis due to earthquakes under water or meteor impacts: some distance away from the coasts makes a lot of sense

- New Madrid fault line: runs basically though all of the U.S. Midwest

- Most nuclear reactors: Eastern and Midwest U.S.

- According to C's, the Yellowstone volcano has a 50% chance of erupting, which would impact most of the U.S. Northwest, including Colorado and Utah.

- New Mexico and southern Colorado are the locations of some alien bases and according to C's it may not be a good idea to be close to those:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=11423.msg230437#msg230437

- And if we are entering a new Ice Age, it seems like a good idea to go further south than north

There is probably more, but these are at least some of the things to consider, I think.

 

[Laura]

How about down near Guardian in NC?

 

[Guardian]

How about down near Guardian in NC?

I picked here because it's the safest place, overall, that I could find in the US. Good people, good resources, and LOTS of nature. There's jobs here too, thanks to the Indian Casino about 10 miles away. :)

 

[Aliana]

How about down near Guardian in NC?

I picked here because it's the safest place, overall, that I could find in the US. Good people, good resources, and LOTS of nature. There's jobs here too, thanks to the Indian Casino about 10 miles away. :)

I was in Winston-Salem, NC recently and visited Asheville and Charlotte a few years ago. I was so impressed by NC - it is beautiful and the people are all really friendly and GENUINELY kind!! If I had any family or friends there - it would be on the top of my list for places to relocate!

 

[go2]

Guardian, I just read Pools of Nuclear Fire by Jeffery St. Clair on Counterpunch. He describes the Shearon Harris Nuclear Generating Facility in Wake County, NC. Wake County looks to be dead center in the state. You probably already know the controversy surrounding Progress Energy and their expansion plans for Shearon Harris.

I live in OR and have wondered why we don't have nuclear plants in this area. Today's paper describes local activists battle with the power company over plans to build a nuclear generating facility on the OR coast which we know has experienced 41 major earthquakes in the last 10,000 years. We are over due for a massive quake along the Cascadia subduction zone which experiences megathrust earthquakes. The last earthquake in this area was in 1700 when the Japanese recorded the date of the tsunami.

Divers cut old growth timber from the bottom of ocean off the San Juan Islands. When I heard that story many years ago I realized nature must really shake the earth along this section of the Pacific Ring of Fire. I am grateful that 41 years ago a few activists stood between Oregonians and a nuclear generating facility on one of the world's most dangerous subduction zones.

 

[Guardian]

Guardian, I just read Pools of Nuclear Fire by Jeffery St. Clair on Counterpunch. He describes the Shearon Harris Nuclear Generating Facility in Wake County, NC. Wake County looks to be dead center in the state. You probably already know of the controversy surrounding Progress Energy and there expansion plans for Shearon Harris.

Yes, we're about 300 miles west of the Shearon....I'm actually more concerned with the McGuire, which is only about 150 miles away. :(
Unfortunately there is no place in the Continental United States that you can get more than 4-500 miles from a Nuclear Power Plant except the midwest, and I think it will be too cold to survive there long term...IF Yellowstone doesn't blow first..

http://www.nrc.gov/info-finder/reactor/

We're in that little blank spot on near the NC/Tenn border, not far south of the Va line. There's at least one 4-5000 ft mountain between us and any reactor, and we do have caves ...lots and lots of caves, which means a place to go if the winds bring a radioactive plume from ANYWHERE.

I live in OR

I looked at Oregon as serious possibility, I have a VERY dear friend who lives there, and know some other good folks from the net. It's a BEAUTIFUL place, but I think it might get too cold....and it's got 5 potentially active volcano on a fault line. I'd like to think that has something to do with them not building any nuclear reactors there....but probably not

 

[Meager1]

I was down in NC a couple of years ago to tour the Deltec factory there.
I was thinking about maybe staying here at that time and building one of those round houses.

It is very pretty there in the north west part of NC. No doubt about that.

Yet looking at this site http://www.radiationnetwork.com/ it seems to be down wind from that TN cluster and actually in the middle of quite
a cluster from other states..I didn`t realise they were so many of those things on the east coast.

Yikes.. ya gotta figure somethings gonna go wrong sooner or later, even without much provacation.

The Mid west is prone to Tornado`s and if you`ve ever had to out run one of those you know it`s pretty scary!
I`m not sure whether or not all those old missile silo`s are still buried all through there either.
Not to mention the fact that there seems to be an ocean of natural gas under most of the mid west.

The entire strip from the AZ and NM border with Mexico, up through the Rockies all the way to the end of Montana is out of the question
since it`s already "occupied" by previous owners and their dug in for the duration!

What`s left is only the earthquake and volcano lands in the west!

So, I don`t know, the choices ain`t looking so good. I do have time to think about it though, I`m not planning to actually have to leave here
until at least the end of June. So that gives me some time.


I`m thinking maybe the best thing to do is stay property free, travel light and just watch and wait for some direction as to where to hang our hats for the last ha-raw.

Thanks everybody.

 

[Guardian]

Yet looking at this site http://www.radiationnetwork.com/ it seems to be down wind from that TN cluster and actually in the middle of quite
a cluster from other states..I didn`t realise they were so many of those things on the east coast.

Yup...there's no escaping them in the Eastern US. and the Western states are already too cold to grow much, plus they've got multiple volcanoes that could blow without much warning, and are actually a worse, long term threat than a reactor.

I tried to put as much distance between us and an active reactor as possible, so we have time to get down into a cave if one blows. Some of the sites on the map you referenced are actually storage sites for spent fuel rods, which aren't as dangerous (from a distance) as an active reactor, but still represent a radiation threat if damaged by a natural disaster.

The disaster in Japan has brought up a lot of fears about nuclear reactors, especially among survivors of the Three Mile Island melt down and the Surry explosion. Risk assessment when a reactor starts to vent radiation is VERY difficult, because the level of risk outside the immediate danger zone is largely dependent on the weather and prevailing winds.

At least now we have MUCH better tools at our disposal for sharing information and predicting the path of a plume. When TMI blew, we only had CB's and a few BBS's, and they were up and down like yoyos because the phone system was overloaded. Government official lied through their teeth (of course) and the ensuing panic caused 100's of thousands of people who were fairly safe where they were to evacuate...directly into the path of the plume. People were hosing refugees down, making them strip to the skin and leave everything they'd brought with them in a big pile ...it was a mess.

A few years later, when Surry had a huge explosion that rocked the whole county, NO ONE believed the government when they said the reactors weren't compromised...and it was actually the truth that time.

What I learned from living through these events is that when a radiation cloud takes to the wind, the only things you can do are get out of its path, or go underground. This latest disaster has also convinced me that I need to replace my 25 year old Geiger counter

 

[Dick]

I think I would be concerned about clean water, especially on the east coast of the US. I live in the northern midwest, where freezing temp.'s are the norm. Just a thought.....

 

[Meager1]

Actually that's not true. I`m in central MA and have a well for water here.

We have the water checked every year and it`s as close to pristine as it gets!

Of course I wouldn`t drink the town water though..thats where the real trouble is.



I was just looking at the north west section of NC on google earth and it`s really gorgeous there. Lots of water, trees and mountains.
It`s a definite possibility. I really think I would like it there.

I still have Idaho in the back of my mind though, since I have lived there before and know the area very well.
It is kinda close to Yellowstone, though it does have some pretty high mountains in-between.
But then theres going to be something wrong or not entirly safe, no matter you go.

Surprisingly, I was just offered a chance to go to Hawaii, and though I was grateful for the offer, I think that would be my last choice even though
year round summer sure sounds nice.

I`m not looking for the perfect location, or even the "safest" one, I doubt there is such a place anyway.
I`m not looking for a hiding place, just a pleasant one, for as long as it lasts.

I only want to find a place where I and the kids can be happy, doing what each wants to do ( the kids are into hiking, fishing, skiing etc, all the out doorsy stuff) and if days are getting limited as seems to be the case, then instead of living in fear or dread of the "end times" and all that, I want them to at least appreciate and enjoy the environment their living in. That's all, no running or hiding, just living one day at a time, the best we can.

 

[KTC]

HI Meager1. I lived near West Yellowstone for a few Summers and it was a great community called Island Park. SO much beauty and inspiring nature, active people who really get out and connect with the outdoors. There's plenty of little communities around Yellowstone to choose from. I would go back there for sure if was in the States (we are in Australia now).. and hey, if she blows I think I'd rather be right there with her than dealing with the affects further away.
All the best finding the right place. ;)

 

[ScarletBegonias]

What`s left is only the earthquake and volcano lands in the west!

Hello Meager1, I was born and raised in So Cal. I love the warm climate, but I don't love the eroding economy that we've been experiencing for the last few years.

Surprisingly, I was just offered a chance to go to Hawaii, and though I was grateful for the offer, I think that would be my last choice even though
year round summer sure sounds nice.

I went to Oahu for a week a couple years ago and it was absolutely breathtaking, but very expensive. Even the food in the grocery stores cost twice as much. I know of a couple people who moved to Hawaii (one to the big island and one to Maui), lived there for about a year or so, and then moved back to the mainland, because it was just too expensive for them.

Have you ever considered Oregon? I'm just throwing it out there since you mentioned the west. One of my friends recently moved from Nor Cal to Oakridge and he told me that he's finally home. He said he's met so many great people (teachers, artists, etc) who care about topics I'd be interested in, like topics discussed on this forum. The way he talks about Oakridge sounds mystical to me and it makes me very curious to visit this town. I also know of others in that state who tell me Oregon is very beautiful and that they have no plans to leave. Check out this article and video on the town if you're considering the west and looking at that state: _http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129186583

Best wishes to you on your search! :)

 

[Mr.Anderson]

I may have to move soon as well so I have enjoyed reading this.

At first, I chose southern Colorado because of the price of land and the beauty of the mountains. I love being in nature and really appreciate quiet, especially at night. The northwest U.S. is also so very beautiful but too expensive for me.

I have been to NC and believe it would also be a fine choice.

I think some wise beings from the future said, "It's not where you are, but who you are and what you see."