hayhouse radio

[Gertrudes]

I listened to hayhouse radio for a couple of months before I bumped into Laura's work. Since I barely had any contact to either new age stuff or esoterica before, it was all very new to me and took me a while to understand what I was actually reading/listening to. 1 and a half year later, my discernment has improved (slightly ), and I am re thinking all this.

I've seen a couple of references to Louise Hay in the forum, and I've actually just ordered her book "Heal Your Body A-Z".
Louise Hay founded Hayhouse radio, which you can listen to here: _http://www.hayhouseradio.com/
I find that her program hosts are in general quite dubious though. A few of them were already mentioned in the folowing 2 threads:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14116.msg117064#new
on Caroline Myss

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14753.0
on Gregg Braden
I no longer see Gregg as a regular at the Hayhouse, although he has been one until recently if I'm not mistaken.
And the flavour one gets is that they are both either new age gurus or associated with.


More on program hosts, amongst many others we will find Doreen Virtue:
Extracted from Hayhouse site

Doreen Virtue holds B.A., M.A., and Ph.D. degrees in counseling psychology, and is a lifelong clairvoyant who works with the angelic realm. She is the author of the Healing with the Angels book and oracle cards; Archangels & Ascended Masters; and Angel Therapy®, among other works. Her products are available in most languages worldwide.

Doreen, "works with the angelic realm"....hmmmmm.


until very recently Sylvia Brown was a regular host. She is discussed in this thread:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=2529.0
I heard one or 2 of her shows, and found her predictions seriously dubious. And even if there is some truth to them, when someone you never met asks you over the phone "what is my purpose in life?" and within less then a second you answer something like "be a nurse"... I'm inclined to think it is complete mumbo jumbo or just pure STS.


I have never read anything about Louise Hay, and once the book arrives it will be my first time. I am confused though with the people she is associated with. Well, I wouldn't say all program hosts are new age word salad, I have listened a few interesting things by medical intuitive Mona Lisa Schulz:

With her extensive training in health and brain research, Dr. Mona Lisa A. Schulz (a.k.a. "Dr. Mona Lisa") has been a practicing Medical Intuitive for almost two decades. Dr. Mona Lisa received her doctorate in Behavioral Neuroscience from the Boston School of Medicine. Medical intuition is the direct perception of the emotional and psychological patterns that form the basis for a person's state of health or disease. A medical intuitive perceives patterns of energy and information that are beyond the scope of conventionally accepted definitions of space and time. Dr. Mona Lisa believes that all of us were born with intuitive ability and the capacity to read energy fields, but that this innate ability gradually diminishes over time because it has been culturally feared and devalued instead of cultivated. One of the many joys in her life is teaching people how to acknowledge, trust, and develop their own intuitive skills.

Of course you have to ignore the "all of us were born with intuitive ability" and so on bit, it assumes we are all the same and probably assumes a few more things that I am not aware of.

What I am trying to get to is, is Hayhouse just a big pile of new agey people gathered to "enlighten" us, or is there really something of real to it? I am aware that a good lie always comes mixed with some truth, guess I'm just trying to measure which bears more weight in this case. There is a section on the radio _http://www.hayhouseradio.com/hosts_index.php that leads straight to the list of show hosts. I will be researching a little bit more on them when time permits.

 

[Laura]

I think that Louise Hay (and many others) are well covered in the FOTCM Statement of Principles as follows:

1.3. On Unveiling

We recognize that no approximation of Truth can be taken ―on faith‖, rather that Unveiling of Truth is a process whereby both inner and outer data complement each other to reflect higher levels of order in the seeker‘s mind, more closely corresponding to reality at all levels. Unveiling of Truth must be validated internally and autonomously, using the critical, analytic, and synthesizing functions of mind; and the experience of universal states of consciousness based on intuitive insight and universal Conscience. However, this inner process may only achieve objective results in conjunction with a robust feedback mechanism. Without external validation knowledge remains subjective and incomplete; without internal validation it remains externally imposed and is not properly assimilated by one‘s Being.

1.4. On Unveilers

Because Truth is something which can only come to be known via the above described process, we recognize that Unveilers of Truth can come from any field of study, whether secular or spiritual, including physical and social scientists, psychologists, mystics, and thinkers of all types, from all eras and all nations. However, just as Truth cannot be known completely, no source can be viewed a priori as fully correct, and a source may even hold some ideas that are wholly contrary to Truth. An individual Unveiler of Truth does not necessarily need to be consciously aware that he or she is an instrument of Unveiling, if it can be shown that they revealed some portion of the greater whole in their work, which otherwise may contain erroneous data and/or false conclusions.

http://paleochristianity.org/documents/FOTCM_Statement_of_Principles.pdf

 

[Gertrudes]

You know, that excerpt from the statement of principles fitted exactly what I needed to be reminded of. Thank you!