Hi Shijing :),
Shijing said:
In my understanding, the childhood amnesia you mention can in part be due to trauma and narcissistic wounding that occurred and gets suppressed as a defense mechanism, as the mind attempts to shield the ego of the developing child to maintain functionality. You've mentioned your siblings, but only allude to your parents -- what were their interactions like with you and your siblings as you were growing up? And what was their response when you mistreated your siblings? Did they deal with it, turn a blind eye, or something other?
I remember my parents reprimanding me for my misbehaviours, they wouldn't turn a blind eye. Still, the scoldings became normalised and I developed dissociative tendencies (spacing out) very early. Additionally, they weren't home most of the time, being at work, especially my father. I also do remember their advice that the only people who will be there to support you in times of need are your siblings. Only now am I beginning to understand my parents advice, especially that of my father. I would mostly focus my ill treatment on my younger brother. He was sort of like a punching bag for everyone in our family. He got scolded a lot by my parents for being 'stubborn' and 'difficult' (especially by my mother, both of them were constantly at loggerheads for a long time). He's gone through pretty rough times in the family, and in his own internal life. You could say that he was the demon child, or rebel of our family. Now, he's a tall, intelligent, articulate and highly self-confident adolescent. Now, I do have a good relationship with him, or so I think.
Shijing said:
Have you tried to identify the triggers of that rage? There seems to be a lot going on there -- a lot of the times rage is triggered by some sense of injustice. Without more information it's difficult to suggest what that might be, although again I wonder about the role of your parents as it relates to your relationships with and feelings toward your siblings.
I get the rage whenever someone in my family treats my without acknowledging my status as an elder. It comes when I feel demeaned or that I have lost my superior position to them. I think they may feel that interacting with me is like treading around eggshells. My dad has also said that I used to have a lot of mood swings, though I'm not sure if these have gone away yet. I also thought that it's somewhat related to the way my parents were, especially my mother. She'd always be pushing and controlling for us to get good grades and there is a lot of emphasis on good grades in the Asian society I live in. I do remember everyone in the family getting doses of her anger, both verbally and physically. My younger brother has told me that mom would dump her stress onto him, by screaming at him almost every day. My father would be the only one to defend him, the only problem is that he was working in a different area, coming back on the weekends only. All of us had very little of our 'father connection'. That is also a probable reason for my mother's constant anger, she'd be complaining about him all the time not being around. It was pretty hard for her, since she had to single-handedly raise the four of us (I have two younger sisters as well) while managing her career. Without a proper loving connection with either parent, there is emotional disconnection with people in general, now that I see it. I'm also guessing that this is the current standard for the 'normal family'.
Shijing said:
As far as feeling unauthentic when you try to act benevolent, if you have learned to see yourself as someone who is incapable of doing so, then that would make sense. It would be important to understand that this self-image is one that has been learned -- it's a program, and with work, it can be unlearned; otherwise, continuing to do what feels 'natural' will only reinforce that image and leave you trapped in a vicious cycle. This seems to be one of those cases where you could try to 'fake it till you make it' -- act benevolently where appropriate, even when it seems unnatural, because that's what it takes to rewire your thinking until the old patterns start to feel less natural. This probably needs to go hand-in-hand with ongoing recapitulation as you try to figure out the roots of the resentment you seem to be feeling.
I understand what you mean, especially about the 'natural' feeling as being the byproduct or result of constant activation of a set of programs. I guess dissociation also has a very 'natural' feeling to it, too. I haven't been doing recapitulation very much, but I have noticed that it does have some really positive, awareness increasing effects. I am also trying harder to remember myself during my interactions. I feel my awareness is slowly creeping into those interactions. What used to be just automatic now is slowly being more scrutinised. And what I see is nothing short of surprising, it feels different, whenever I self-observe. I know more about my machine now then I ever did. But I think I need to learn not to suppress my emotions but observe them, it's a pretty difficult because I am so used to being cold and distant toward people.
Shijing said:
My understanding is that our various 'I's are programs -- little reactive personalities that are essentially automated -- that we have developed to deal with various situations and environments. They are usually so integrated into our core personality that we don't realize that they are even being employed, which is why we don't realize they exist at all unless it is pointed out to us. The inner child, on the other hand, is part of our true personality (or Being) that has been overlaid by all of these 'I's until it is often completely suppressed and can't be heard at the conscious level. Narcissistic wounding affects this inner child directly -- and results in the creation of some or all of these 'I's as buffering protective mechanisms that are then mistaken for part of the real personality when in fact they are not.
Thanks for making that clear. Is the inner child present as a feeling, instead of a voice in your head? Like what Oxajil said:
Oxajil said:
Some time ago I was sitting in class and I was thinking about raising my hand to say something. This thought alone made my heart pump faster. I could feel the adrenaline rush through my body and somehow there was much fear inside of me.
I told myself: "Why are you acting this way? It's okay. Nothing is going to happen. They're good people, it's safe."
And when I did that, soon enough the fear went away.
I get this feeling very often when I'm trying to interact with others. I was under the impression that this fear was related to the predator's mind?
Shijing said:
I hope this helps -- have you read all of the Big 5 narcissism books? How are things going diet-wise and with E/E?
I have read 3 of them, the ones I haven't are Narcissistic Family and In Sheep's Clothing. I have ordered NF, I have a feeling that this book is actually one of the most important among the 5, but it still hasn't reached, it's already been almost 2 months!
E/E has been good so far, the 3-stage and warriors every day, with the full program on Mondays and Thursdays, and shifting it around if I don't have time. I'm also trying to incorporate listening to PoTS and breathing before I sleep. It really is amazing! As a side note I've recently noticed that my varicose vein has reduced in prominence, I'm leaning to the conclusion that the deep breathing in EE has helped with that, but I'm not 100% sure.
Diet-wise, a bit iffy, although I have completely banned sugar & coffee from my diet, since for me it was the easiest thing to do. I try to consciously avoid any wheat, soy, and dairy, but sometimes I give in due to the unavailability of better choices, or just pure lack of self-discipline.
Your input has helped a lot, very much appreciated! Was it difficult to understand or get a gist of what I was trying to say? I have realised how difficult it is to convey something in the proper light, and as objectively as possible. I think I spent an hour or so just getting this out. A lot of feelings come to the surface as I try to relive memories, and it progressively gets harder to think clearly, and then I get into that muddled state of mind.
Anyway, thank you for your kindness and sorry for my lack of clarity :)