Healthy eating declared a sign of serious psychological disorder

[Laura]

So it appears that Deanne Jade is a "self-made diet guru" who is part of the very system that creates the problems that she sells the solution for.

Read: "Rethinking Thin"... and then read "The Ultra-Mind Solution" and "Detoxify or Die" and the other health related books we recommend here on the forum. There are many better solutions for eating disorders (which our society creates) than NLP and hypnosis.

 

[Hildegarda]

2. Amazing consistency with all the references to her:
...the principal at [or Founder of] the National Centre for Eating Disorders.

I had a thought that "National Centre for Eating Disorders" doesn't necessarily mean "National", as in, the premier and government-affiliated center. It is probably just a name for a non-profit, a loose group of specialists working under a common umbrella. In other words, anyone can be in it and call themselves whatever.

Director of the UK National Centre for Eating Disorders Deanne Jade said: "Some of these websites are downright dangerous.

"They are run by people with serious agendas, including those who are anti therapists, believing that 'everyone is out there to make us fat'.

that actually may be typical for therapists who work with anorexia. The thing is, anorexia is extremely recalcitrant, the physical symptoms are difficult to treat and the psychological reprogramming is very hard.

So the programs that work are residential programs where the patients are put on massive tranquilizers, force-fed and bombarded with "eating is good, anorexia is bad, those who tell you not to eat are bad, eat more, eat more". Even outpatient individual and family therapy is going to be pretty aggressive.

That's the style of her message above. I bet that's what she needs her NLP for. It makes no sense in the big picture of things.

fwiw,

 

[mamadrama]

Just to add a little more perspective on orthorexia nervosa which was suspiciously absent from this article, from what I've read it is not just about wanting to eat healthy, it is more like an OCD that is in the extreme and can lead to starvation and death (but not typically). The examples in this article are so broad and paint such an indiscriminate picture between healthy eating and obsessive eating, it is disturbing. By failing to mention the extremes a person would have to exhibit in order to have this disorder (if it is indeed one), Deanne Jade is spouting disinfo at its finest, osit.

_http://eatingdisorders.about.com/od/othereatingdisorders/p/orthorexia.htm

Orthorexia Nervosa

The term orthorexia nervosa is an invention of Steven Bratman, MD, a specialist in alternative medicine. Orthorexia is essentially an obsession with healthy eating. The emphasis is on the presence of an obsession: A commitment to eating well is not orthorexia. Orthorexia is present when eating healthy food dominates a person to such an extent that the person lets other areas of life suffer.

Orthorexia is not an officially-recognized disorder. Whether it deserves this status is open for debate.

The other debate orthorexia has sharpened: Are there good foods and bad foods?

Symptoms of Orthorexia

According to Bratman, orthorexia may look like anorexia nervosa, but it has significant differences. Maintaining an obsession with health food may cause a restriction of calories merely because available food isn't "good enough." Those with orthorexia may lose enough weight to give them a body mass index consistent with someone with anorexia (i.e., less than 18.5).

Eating only the "right foods" (and perhaps only at the "right times") can give those with orthorexia a sense of superiority to others. Relationships suffer as they become less important than holding to dietary patterns.

Is Orthorexia a Form of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder?

Orthorexia certainly has some of the features of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). As with OCD, those with orthorexia take actions that are "aimed at preventing or reducing distress or preventing some dreaded event or situation" according to the American Psychiatric Association. A key part of the definition of OCD is that the person struggling with the disorder recognizes that the repetitive behaviors or recurrent thoughts he has affect him in negative ways. Whether this occurs for those with orthorexia is unclear.

Vegetarians and Vegans Need Not Be "Orthorexic"

It's true that, based on some societal norms, vegetarian and vegan diets are restrictive. But if a person on such a diet does not allow it to become a dominant obsession, orthorexia is by definition not present.

On the other hand, vegetarian and vegan diets have been starting points for some who have developed eating disorders. Someone with orthorexia will naturally have strong dietary restrictions. Such restrictions can adhere to vegetarian or vegan standards, among many other possibilities.

An Example of Orthorexia

One dietary plan that may be a form of orthorexia is calorie restriction, an organized plan in which participants reduce their calories by 20 to 40%, but make sure they get all required nutrients. The plan rigidly enforces reducing calories and getting the necessary nutrients. Proponents of the plan have a powerful allegiance to it.

Controversy

Some believe that orthorexia is a myth and that Bratman is out to make a buck (he's written a book on the topic that is now out of print). The reality is that very little peer-reviewed research exists on orthorexia. Researchers are attempting to come up with more formalized diagnostic criteria, and a couple of studies have attempted to validate a new questionnaire called the ORTO-15 as a screening tool. But the questionnaire is not yet as effective as desired in identifying the obsessive parts of orthorexia.

Of course, the phenomenon of food purity dominating a person's thoughts and life is not far-fetched. We know that eating disorders exist and that there are various kinds of obsessions. The question is whether this proposed disorder can stand on its own as an independent diagnosis in the future.

Orthorexia

For Professionals:

The defining feature of orthorexia is obsession with eating healthy food and avoiding unhealthy food. The definition of healthy and unhealthy food varies widely depending on which dietary beliefs the patients has adopted. The usual immediate source of orthorexia is a health food theory, such as rawfoodism, macrobiotics, non-dairy vegetarianism, Ornish-style very-low-fat diet, or food allergies. Note that, in most cases, the underlying diet is itself reasonably healthy (if unreasonably specific). It's in the obsessive approach to diet taken by an orthorexic that the disorder lies.

An issue of major concern for people with orthorexia is that when they seek help from eating disorder specialists they are misunderstood. The typical frustrating interaction goes something like this:


Patient: I'm trying to eat a healthy diet.

Physician: That's what you think, but underlying it is a desire to be thin.

Patient: No. I don't want to be thin. I want to be pure (or perfectly healthy, or "in balance.")

Physician: What you're saying is just a form of denial.

Patient: You're not listening to me, etc. etc.


Unlike people with anorexia, patients with orthorexia are generally unconcerned about their weight, and do not feel fat. For raw foodists, vegans and fruitarians, what matters most is feeling pure. In such cases, there are often spiritual overtones, a yogic-like desire to be not of this world. Followers of other diets may simply wish to stay healthy, or decrease physical symptoms (real or exaggerated). The general emotion tone is often, "if I could just get my diet perfect, everything will be fine" (reminiscent of OCD).

Orthorexia is usually more of a source of psychological distress than real physical danger. However, in some cases, weight loss becomes a significant feature, and all the risks of anorexia apply. In my experience, rawfoodists and vegans are more likely to fall into this category of orthorexics than followers of any other diet. Interestingly, it appears that there are as many men with "anorexic orthorexia" as there are women. Treatment is tricky, because people with orthorexia will consider drugs such as antidepressants to be "impure" and "unnatural." The same goes for weight gain aids such as Ensure, because they contain verboten substances such as sugar, artificial colors, and artificial flavors.

Orthorexia is not yet a DSM diagnosis, but academic investigation into it has begun, as can be found by searching PubMed.

_http://www.orthorexia.com/index.php?page=forprofessionals

 

[Laura]

Just to add a little more perspective on orthorexia nervosa which was suspiciously absent from this article, from what I've read it is not just about wanting to eat healthy, it is more like an OCD that is in the extreme and can lead to starvation and death (but not typically). The examples in this article are so broad and paint such an indiscriminate picture between healthy eating and obsessive eating, it is disturbing. By failing to mention the extremes a person would have to exhibit in order to have this disorder (if it is indeed one), Deanne Jade is spouting disinfo at its finest, osit.

Well, that, and some of the other things found on the web seem to point in the direction of Deanne Jade being not exactly what she presents herself to be. Either that, or the media is definitely mis-quoting her and misrepresenting her position. But, she certainly could clarify on her own website, and I see no sign of that. The conclusion is that this is the last person that you would want to turn to for help if you have an eating disorder.

 

[Hildegarda]

Just to add a little more perspective on orthorexia nervosa which was suspiciously absent from this article, from what I've read it is not just about wanting to eat healthy, it is more like an OCD that is in the extreme and can lead to starvation and death (but not typically). The examples in this article are so broad and paint such an indiscriminate picture between healthy eating and obsessive eating, it is disturbing.

This is a major problem with dietetics and nutrition science. When I was taking nutrition electives in grad school, I couldn't help questioning a lot of what I was learning. I have just recently read a book by Michael Pollan, where he addresses the same issues, it was encouraging to see it wasn't all in my head.

One thing I always heard from my professors, "while we recognize that some eating is unhealthy, we shouldn't demonize the whole food groups or eating styles; it's OK to eat sugars\fats\fast-food IN MODERATION". What exactly is this "moderation"? Is it going to McD once a year, once a month or once a week? Is having a little bit of potato chips every day or eating desert after every meal "moderation? They couldn't give a straight answer to that.

IMO if you can't define quantitatively the terms you are using, it's not science and do not pretend that it is. If they are going by qualitative assessment in describing orthorexia, it will be subjective, influenced by their experiences with severe hard-to-treat anorexia, and they have no business drawing "a fine line between people who think they are taking care of themselves by manipulating their diet and those who have orthorexia". But that's what they are doing.

 

[FireShadow]

"Those most susceptible are middle-class, well-educated people who read about food scares in the papers, research them on the internet, and have the time and money to source what they believe to be purer alternatives."

Worded in this way, it sounds as though someone wants people to believe that too much education can make you "susceptible" to an unhealthy disorder...

 

[Ollie]

In the UK it is possible to register an organisation with any name you like, as long as it is not being used by someone else. Hence Natonal, etc has no specific meaning, thus agreeing with what Hildegarda stated previously.

As far as qualifications are concerned, from the course listing, it would appear that she has a first degree, as it is usual in UK academic institutions to quote a 'lecturer's' full qualifications, often with the place of study or place of award.

I agree with FireShadow, it is as if the next layer of people to convince about eating are the middle, or 'chattering' classes, those that are not already fully committed to 'conventional' (junk food) eating, or that want to move away from it.

 

[GRiM]

If only it was a onion.com article I would have made so much more sense, in a way. This is really a 2+2=5 contradiction. Eating heath is bad for you! :)

My experience with this is the sixteen year old little sister of a close friend of mine, she was somewhat anorexic but not to a point were it obvious from her appearance. I do not know all the exact details but I know that her parents tried counseling and "BUP" (abbreviation for: Child Youth Psychiatry). She was committed against her will and was on a ward for a few weeks, from what I understood she really hated it but it was seen as for her greater good.

She committed suicide just days before she was about to go back for more treatment. She jumped from a eight-stories building and died a hour later in the local hospital.

 

[go2]

Oh.... my..... Gawd.....

The lunatics really have taken over the asylum!

Indeed and a couple of weeks ago, they said that organic food was not better that ordinary food.

I do no want to be paranoiac but the PTB are up to something.

Yes, they are up to something.

Yes, they are up to something. The lunatics are going to feed us GMO cat food and when we object; a diagnosis of orthorexia nervosa will justify therapeutic intervention, enforced by police power. The corporate monster, Monsanto will dominate world food production. The medical cartel will get a piece of the action by writing scripts for vitamins. The criminal justice system will dip its beak with millions of new clients. The banking cartel will finance the entire operation. District 9 isn’t really Sci-Fi, it’s a documentary.

Obama just nominated a Monsanto representative Michael Taylor, to direct the police power of government forcing citizens to comply with Monsanto directives developed by Codex Alimentarius. Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Monsanto before becoming Secretary of Defense. I think the lunatics are probably psychopaths. Codex Alimentarius might be their game plan. CA is scheduled to rolled out in five months.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14889

"Food Standards Guidelines" Threaten Human Health
Codex Alimentarius (CA) serves corporate interests

[…]At its July 2005 session, the Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses (CCNFSDU), drew up guidelines that set restrictive upper dosage limits on popularly used vitamin and mineral supplements and nutrients. They prohibit the sale of all curative, preventative, and therapeutic supplements without a doctor's prescription, most now accessible over-the-counter at health food, other stores, or by mail order.

[…]On December 31, 2009, Codex standards will be globally mandated unless legal challenges prevent it. In force, they'll override food and drug laws of all member countries, including consumer protection ones and America's 1994 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA). It classifies nutrients and herbs as foods, sets no dosage limits, and permits the sale of all dietary supplements unless expressly proved unsafe. Codex rules reverse things by prohibiting everything NOT proved safe, including high potency, therapeutically effective nutrients and supplements.

Common foods, herbs, nutrients, amino acids, homeopathic and other natural remedies would be called drugs. Potencies would be limited, and prescriptions would be required for their use. Some would be banned altogether.

In contrast, about 300 dangerous food additives will be allowed, including aspartame, BHA, BHT, potassium bromate, and tartrazine. New guidelines will authorize the worldwide proliferation of unlabeled GMO foods, drugs, and ingredients, known to harm human health.

In addition:

-- dangerous high-potency industrial chemicals, pesticides, and fungicides will be allowed, ones now near-universally banned, including aldrin, hexachlorobenzene and toxaphene;

-- growth hormones for cows will be mandated;

-- antibiotics as well for all "food herds, fish and flocks;"

-- irradiation will be required for all foods not locally grown and sold raw and unprocessed; and

-- new standards will permit dangerous toxic levels (0.5 ppb) of aflotoxin in milk produced from moldy storage conditions of animal feed; aflotoxin is one of most potent carcinogenic compounds known.

In addition, professional written, oral or other nutritional advice will be banned, including about the benefits of vitamins, minerals, nutrients and other health-promoting substances. Henceforth, they'll be considered toxins or poisons to be removed from food because Codex will prohibit their use to "prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease."

[…]On July 23, Obama appointed Monsanto vice-president and lobbyist Michael Taylor as food safety czar - the man Jeffrey Smith, author and leading GMO foods critic, called "The person who may be responsible for more food-related illnesses and death than anyone in history....This is no joke....What have we done?"

At FDA in the early 1990s, Taylor headed policy over letting Monsanto's GM bovine growth hormone (rBGH) be injected into cows to increase milk supply despite the known health dangers. He also kept containers from being labeled to warn consumers. Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand banned the drug because of the significant cancer and other risks.

 

[Johnno]

Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Monsanto before becoming Secretary of Defense. I think the lunatics are probably psychopaths. Codex Alimentarius might be their game plan. CA is scheduled to rolled out in five months.

Actually Rumsfeld was CEO of G.D. Searle and company, the company that developed Nutra Sweet. G.D. Searle sold out to Monsanto in the 80's, Rumsfeld pocketed 12 million from the deal. He was also chairman of the company that developed Tamiflu.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14889

"Food Standards Guidelines" Threaten Human Health
Codex Alimentarius (CA) serves corporate interests

[…]At its July 2005 session, the Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses (CCNFSDU), drew up guidelines that set restrictive upper dosage limits on popularly used vitamin and mineral supplements and nutrients. They prohibit the sale of all curative, preventative, and therapeutic supplements without a doctor's prescription, most now accessible over-the-counter at health food, other stores, or by mail order.

[…]On December 31, 2009, Codex standards will be globally mandated unless legal challenges prevent it. In force, they'll override food and drug laws of all member countries, including consumer protection ones and America's 1994 Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHEA). It classifies nutrients and herbs as foods, sets no dosage limits, and permits the sale of all dietary supplements unless expressly proved unsafe. Codex rules reverse things by prohibiting everything NOT proved safe, including high potency, therapeutically effective nutrients and supplements.

Common foods, herbs, nutrients, amino acids, homeopathic and other natural remedies would be called drugs. Potencies would be limited, and prescriptions would be required for their use. Some would be banned altogether.

In contrast, about 300 dangerous food additives will be allowed, including aspartame, BHA, BHT, potassium bromate, and tartrazine. New guidelines will authorize the worldwide proliferation of unlabeled GMO foods, drugs, and ingredients, known to harm human health.

In addition:

-- dangerous high-potency industrial chemicals, pesticides, and fungicides will be allowed, ones now near-universally banned, including aldrin, hexachlorobenzene and toxaphene;

-- growth hormones for cows will be mandated;

-- antibiotics as well for all "food herds, fish and flocks;"

-- irradiation will be required for all foods not locally grown and sold raw and unprocessed; and

-- new standards will permit dangerous toxic levels (0.5 ppb) of aflotoxin in milk produced from moldy storage conditions of animal feed; aflotoxin is one of most potent carcinogenic compounds known.

In addition, professional written, oral or other nutritional advice will be banned, including about the benefits of vitamins, minerals, nutrients and other health-promoting substances. Henceforth, they'll be considered toxins or poisons to be removed from food because Codex will prohibit their use to "prevent, treat or cure any condition or disease."

[…]On July 23, Obama appointed Monsanto vice-president and lobbyist Michael Taylor as food safety czar - the man Jeffrey Smith, author and leading GMO foods critic, called "The person who may be responsible for more food-related illnesses and death than anyone in history....This is no joke....What have we done?"

At FDA in the early 1990s, Taylor headed policy over letting Monsanto's GM bovine growth hormone (rBGH) be injected into cows to increase milk supply despite the known health dangers. He also kept containers from being labeled to warn consumers. Europe, Canada, Australia and New Zealand banned the drug because of the significant cancer and other risks.

I was speaking to a couple of Philippine guys at work yesterday and they were telling me how pork in the Philippines is jokingly referred to as "double dead". The pig is so sick, they pump it full of antibiotics and other drugs before giving up and finally killing it for consumption. The pig has pretty well died twice.

 

[go2]

Donald Rumsfeld was CEO of Monsanto before becoming Secretary of Defense. I think the lunatics are probably psychopaths. Codex Alimentarius might be their game plan. CA is scheduled to rolled out in five months.

Actually Rumsfeld was CEO of G.D. Searle and company, the company that developed Nutra Sweet. G.D. Searle sold out to Monsanto in the 80's, Rumsfeld pocketed 12 million from the deal. He was also chairman of the company that developed Tamiflu.

Thanks for the correction, Johnno. I noticed Donald Rumsfeld and Frank Carlucci were roommates at Princeton. Carlucci was Chairman of the Carlyle Group from 1992 to 2003. The Carlyle Group is the worlds largest private equity firm and is based in Washington D.C. It seems to profit from war and privatization of public infrastructure. Studying the individuals involved in these imperial interests is an education in ponerology. I wonder if Rumsfeld and Carlucci recognized each other in college.
What a spider web!

Yes, they are up to something. Have a look at this: (emphases, mine)

Increasingly attacked by its critics as unscientific, passé, inadequately somatic, and borderline illegitimate, psychiatry was in danger of slipping into medical irrelevance and was in dire need of reinvention. Enter Robert Spitzer, head of biometrics research at Columbia University's Psychiatric Institute. Under Spitzer's direction, an aggressive initiative to revise the DSM was launched, new diagnostic instruments were devised, and quantification became the disciplinary catchword. When completed in 1980, the DSM-III was, in every sense, an entirely new document. Whereas the DSM-II was 134 pages long, the DSM-III ran to nearly 500 pages and described 265 mental disorders in fastidious, grocery-list-like detail. Spitzer, in fact, vehemently pushed for the DSM to classify "diseases," though the editorial board ultimately settled on the term "disorders" in order to placate the APA-member psychologists who found Spitzer's overly clinical zeal disturbing.

Robert Spitzer introduced ADHD to the world. Millions of children are diagnosed with ADHD and Ritalin is prescribed by the medical pharmaceutical cartel. The sott news page has an article detailing this victimization of millions of children. The medicalization of childhood and eating good food seems bizarre to the normal mind, but these psychopaths seem to find it profitable and effective way to destroy our children and a normal and just society we wish and work for.
fwiw....somedays, it seems to me these deviants have declared war on normal humanity.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/191961-Study-Shows-Massive-Rise-In-ADHD-Drug-Abuse-Among-Teens

[...]The surge, from 1998 to 2005, outpaced calls for teen substance abuse generally. It also paralleled an 86 percent rise in ADHD medicine prescriptions for kids aged 10 to 19, from about 4 million to nearly 8 million during that time.

 

[Vulcan59]

Here is a response on Ms.Deanne Jade from The British Psychological Society.

Hi

Thank you for your email. I can confirm that Mrs D Jade is a Graduate member of the Society.

Kind regards


Fiona Rymsza


The British Psychological Society

Membership Records Department


St Andrews House

48 Princess Road East

Leicester

LE1 7DR

Phone number 0116 2529911

Fax number 0116 227 1314

 

[SeekinTruth]

The way the article is written is totally sickening. If you're not with the "program" of the PTB you have serious pyschological disorders (of one kind or another - take your pick). These are totally insane times.

 

[mada85]

The latest instalment in the food propaganda wars is this article published on the UK Telegraph website today. You can view the article at _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6099856/Milk-was-the-worlds-first-superfood.html

This article seems relevant to the topic of this thread so I've posted it here.

Milk was the world's first superfood

By Richard Alleyne, Science Correspondent
Published: 6:30AM BST 28 Aug 2009

Milk was the world’s first “superfood”, claim scientists, who believe that it helped prehistoric families inhabit harsh northern climes.

British researchers believe that humans first evolved into milk drinkers 7,500 years ago in the Balkans and used the ability to populate northern Europe, including Britain.

At the time, the north was very inhospitable, being cold and damp and covered in forests. Settlers would die if a crop failed.

But milk would have provided them with a steady and reliable source of nutrition – including essential vitamin D, which in warmer climes would have been provided by sunlight hitting the skin.

The success of the milk drinkers meant they went on to inhabit most of Europe and explains why everyone who lives on the Continent is tolerant to the milk sugar lactose – unlike 65 per cent of the globe.

The author of this article rigorously avoids any mention of the difference between raw and pasteurised milk. The people who drank milk 7,500 years ago (if they actually did) would have drunk raw milk

Dr Mercola on raw milk:
_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/04/24/raw-milk.aspx
_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/03/26/pasteurized-milk-part-one.aspx

See this article on the Signs page for some links to other sites discussing the health risks of milk consumption: _http://www.sott.net/articles/show/191978-Jaw-Dropping-Propaganda-Healthy-food-obsession-sparks-rise-in-new-eating-disorder

It could also be why Europe became the first superpower.

Professor Mark Thomas, an evolutionary geneticist, at University College London, who led the study, said milk was “the world’s first superfood”.

His team used computer models to map the genetic change that enabled early Europeans to evolve their tolerance to lactose after the introduction of cattle farming.

Before this, Stone Age people were “lactose intolerant” – just like many modern humans today, according to the study published in the journal PLoS Computational Biology.

Prof Thomas said: “Conditions were really tough for early settlers. Crops regularly failed and they would have been on the edge of starvation.

“But they had cattle which meant they could produce milk. It would have made some of them sick and given them diarrhoea, and when you are starving this can be fatal. But by building up their tolerance to milk these people were gaining an enormous advantage.

“It was the world’s first superfood and without it the history of northern Europe would have been put back a thousand years.

“The Mediterranean countries would have become far more culturally significant and even our languages today would have been entirely different. Milk has given us a great deal to be thankful for.”

 

[1984]

Hi mada85 - a similar article was posted on SOTT earlier today. Laura left an interesting comment on the article. http://www.sott.net/articles/show/192164-Milk-Drinking-Started-Around-7-500-Years-Ago-in-Central-Europe