Help me, help you.

[StrawMan]

Greetings to all, as you can see this is my first post. I have been reading Laura's material for the last few years in the form of Secret History of the World, and High Strangeness V2... great stuff.

However, I have recently downloaded the "sessions" and I am looking for a few answers.

In session 940722:

Q: (L) Is there a tenth planet as described by Zecariah Sitchen?
A: No.

Yet in session 940930:

Q: (L) How many planets are in our solar system?
A: 12

Have I taken this too literally?... it is quite late where I am

Also, in the second session (940722)

Q: (L) Do you have information for us this evening?
A: Space invasion soon. Four to six years. Battle between forces good and evil. Wait near. Look far. Listen. Mexico falls; Ethiopia quakes; September both will happen. Near January: Paris
bomb; London Blizzard, 109 die; Plane down in Tahiti; Cholera in Montana January. Government of U.S. behind California Quakes. Three soon. Oklahoma political abduction in February.
Big news.

Can anyone link me to a news report on any of these... I only looked up the Ethiopian quakes and couldn't find anything.

Obviously I ask because, like some of you, there is still some doubt and I would like nothing more than for it to be true.

 

[vinny]

Can anyone link me to a news report on any of these... I only looked up the Ethiopian quakes and couldn't find anything.

Obviously I ask because, like some of you, there is still some doubt and I would like nothing more than for it to be true.

welcome to the forum.

The Wave will give you some extra context in which to understand the Cassiopaean transmissions, and perhaps also the podcast on 'The Cassiopaean Experiment': It would be useful for you to take note of Laura's approach to the original sessions. The idea was absolutely not to take it as stream of non-critically-examined facts. Quite the opposite. However, what was found that many of the clues provided, linked together in amazing and unexpected ways at a later date. However, it was often found that these things could only be connected by sheer hard work. There was no spoon feeding. Instead there was an evolving process of providing clues to be followed up on, warnings to be heeded, and inspiration - a dialogue. And the conclusions reached from that dialogue are always 'open' to further refinement on discovery of new data. The session you quoted contains a list of 'marker' events to be looked out for, there are other sessions like this, and sometimes they happen 'literally' as described, and sometimes they have a more symbolic significance, it seems there is no 'absolute certainty' about the future because it is in some way 'open' because of the creative principle.

So, when you say "there is still some doubt, and I would like nothing more than for it to be true." I think perhaps you misunderstand the nature of it, and that at this level we can never be black-and-white certain about a lot of things, and for those things we can be more sure about - the knowledge can only be gained through application of effort. There is no quick and easy "it's all true" button that will give you instant validation of everything. However, once one starts to put the pieces together, it gets a lot easier to make sense of many things.

 

[daniello]

However, I have recently downloaded the "sessions" and I am looking for a few answers.

In session 940722:

Q: (L) Is there a tenth planet as described by Zecariah Sitchen?
A: No.

Yet in session 940930:

Q: (L) How many planets are in our solar system?
A: 12

Have I taken this too literally?... it is quite late where I am

Hello
Yes, You've taken these transcripts to literally.
Cassiopaeans answered, that there does NOT exist a tenth planet, such as the one described by Sitchen. This does not mean, that there's no tenth planet at all.
Let's use some analogy. Imagine, that someone in other galaxy describes Solar System. He/She describes that 3'rd planet from the Sun is uninhabited. We know, that the 3'rd one is Earth. Is Earth uninhabited? No. So there's no such planet. This also doesn't mean, that there could be no 3'rd planet.

 

[Tigersoap]

Obviously I ask because, like some of you, there is still some doubt and I would like nothing more than for it to be true.

Hi Strawman,

If you dig around the forum, I am sure you will understand that The C's have been incorrect a few times for predicting such time related events as nothing is set in stone in the future.

What if the C's were always right ? Will that constitue a proof that they are real ? That they are reliable (which they were and are in a lot of things they said by the way.) ?

By the way it's not the STO way of doing things from what I know so far.

I think that maybe you should take the material in a wider context than what you just did because, if you want to find flaws and dismiss the rest based upon this, you will find them.

Maybe you'd like as well to post an introduction of yourself here : Newbies forum so we can all know you came to know the forum.

 

[vinny]

What if the C's were always right ? Will that constitue a proof that they are real ? That they are reliable (which they were and are in a lot of things they said by the way.) ?

By the way it's not the STO way of doing things from what I know so far.

that's an important point. If the C's were to provide absolute incontravertible proof of themselves and what they say, it would remove our option to have to work through our own reasoning processes to reach the knowledge that we need, and would be a free will violation. It would undermine our lesson profile which involves learning to evaluate things for ourselves - and would negate the necessity for us to exert the requisite effort - which is how we evolve. (something like doing your children's homework for them - it actually doesn't help, it hinders) This would be the STS mode of doing things, such as UFO abductions: "look, here's my flying saucer, now you'll have to accept that I'm telling the truth about everything", or Monotheistic gods setting fire to bushes, raining down plagues of frogs etc etc: "look! see I am real, and you must now do what I tell you".

 

[StrawMan]

You all make excellent points, but only only concern is with what was said in the second session.

Mexico falls; Ethiopia quakes; September both will happen.

From what I have seen, the C's generally don't predict a specific month like they have above.
In fact even in the same sentence they say "near" January [Paris bomb].

Don't get me wrong, the C's material has helped me greatly and I have and continue to recommend High Strangeness especially for it's large amount of the C's transcripts.

So, the Mexican and Ethiopian events didn't happen?

 

[StrawMan]

Hello
Yes, You've taken these transcripts to literally.
Cassiopaeans answered, that there does NOT exist a tenth planet, such as the one described by Sitchen. This does not mean, that there's no tenth planet at all.

I figured as much, but I was/am too tired to find ZS's description of the tenth planet.

 

[vinny]

I figured as much, but I was/am too tired to find ZS's description of the tenth planet.

It would have been an externally considerate use of energy to google "Zecharia Sitchin 10th planet"

This rather suggests you're expecting to be spoon-fed. Just so you're aware, as you're new, that's not how it works here.

A: It should be noted that the STS system can only be penetrated by becoming "wise as serpents and gentle as doves." There is nothing negative about networking. Details of a network include the necessity for those who are involved to invest "energy" in the exchange. If the individual comes upon the life work of another and expects to benefit and gain by that work, they will naturally wish to have their own position balanced by putting forth a commensurate amount of energy. Otherwise there will be an imbalance of energy. This then leads to an STS pyramid. An example of this principle in reverse is a teacher who demands payment for no real work on their own part. The fact that both of you have devoted yourselves to this work for not just a short time, but literally your entire lives, and have not asked for the support that this intensive labor earns has, in effect, created an imbalance for those who are benefiting. Many of those who are experiencing blocks in their own lives would find those blockages dissolved by the action of opening the flow of energy in the exchange.

 

[StrawMan]

I figured as much, but I was/am too tired to find ZS's description of the tenth planet.

It would have been an externally considerate use of energy to google "Zecharia Sitchin 10th planet"

This rather suggests you're expecting to be spoon-fed. Just so you're aware, as you're new, that's not how it works here.

As my initial post may suggest, knowing what Zecharia Sitchin's information on the 10th planet is would not have helped in this case as it was the wording of the question to the C's which concerned me.
If I wanted someone to tell me what Zecharia Sitchin's 10th planet was, I would have asked, which would have been silly when I can, as you said, just google it.

Please don't mistake my tiredness for laziness.

I still cannot find any information on an Ethiopian quake in September 1994 and I really don't know what is meant by Mexico falls.

 

[RyanAM]

Hello strawman,

You could help us help you by reading Adventures With Cassiopaea and the Wave.

 

[vinny]

Please don't mistake my tiredness for laziness.

I still cannot find any information on an Ethiopian quake in September 1994 and I really don't know what is meant by Mexico falls.

ok.

It might be that these things are 'marker' events, a bunch of things happening together for September but perhaps not 1994? They may not have happened yet. Or something happened and we missed it? (SOTT was not doing it's huge daily trawl for obscure / unpublicised world events 15 years ago)

'Mexico Falls' could mean different things. Maybe a political or financial collapse? Or perhaps something entirely different. I can't think of an example off the top of my head, but if you take a look at some of the other C's bullseyes they've not always been things that could be explained in advance.

Maybe you need to allow yourself 'let this one go' as unresolved (barring further data coming to light of course), and not get stuck in a loop focussing on one single thing that might not mean what you think it means anyway, for the reasons discussed previously.

 

[StrawMan]

Hello strawman,

You could help us help you by reading Adventures With Cassiopaea and the Wave.

The Wave series is next on my list ;D

However, I did not see Adventures With Cassiopaea.. is this a book?

 

[StrawMan]

Please don't mistake my tiredness for laziness.

I still cannot find any information on an Ethiopian quake in September 1994 and I really don't know what is meant by Mexico falls.

ok.

It might be that these things are 'marker' events, a bunch of things happening together for September but perhaps not 1994? They may not have happened yet. Or something happened and we missed it? (SOTT was not doing it's huge daily trawl for obscure / unpublicised world events 15 years ago)

'Mexico Falls' could mean different things. Maybe a political or financial collapse? Or perhaps something entirely different. I can't think of an example off the top of my head, but if you take a look at some of the other C's bullseyes they've not always been things that could be explained in advance.

Maybe you need to allow yourself 'let this one go' as unresolved (barring further data coming to light of course), and not get stuck in a loop focussing on one single thing that might not mean what you think it means anyway, for the reasons discussed previously.

These answered questions have nothing to with me progressing or not, the question was merely to know if the said events had happened and if so was there a news report on it.
I just thought there may have been a thread or something along the lines for news reports correlating with what the C's have predicted/said.

 

[Oxajil]

Welcome StrawMan, Adventures with Cassiopaea can be found here: http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/adventureindex.htm

It is better though I think if you would read The Wave first.

I just thought there may have been a thread or something along the lines for news reports correlating with what the C's have predicted/said.

You might wanna check out this thread for example: Another Hit for the Cassiopaeans - DNA

 

[vinny]

The Wave series is next on my list ;D

However, I did not see Adventures With Cassiopaea.. is this a book?

It's available as a series of articles online here, and has also been converted to book form, as The Wave volumes 5 to 7. It's really a follow-up to the original Wave series, and should probably be read in that order, for the best context.

These answered questions have nothing to with me progressing or not, the question was merely to know if the said events had happened and if so was there a news report on it.
I just thought there may have been a thread or something along the lines for news reports correlating with what the C's have predicted/said.

There's not a single specific thread with all correlations, but there are various threads worth browsing in the Cassiopaean Experiment part of the forum, some of which are about certain correlations with news events.

edit: Oxajil got there first - thanks!