Help with definition and formation of extra-terrestial concepts.

[luke wilson]

I have a quick question.

What is a NORDIC?

I have looked in the cassiopedia, I have searched for it in the forum but all the hits I get, I dont get anyone explaining what a Nordic is.

Can someone please bring me up to speed and tell me what a Nordic is??

I should probably not be thinking about this as it is like super-advanced stuff but, I was reading some threads and I keep on seeing this term, ORION.

Some call them, 6D STS, some 4D STS. Can someone please also tell me who the Orions are??

I am just curious because I heard them referred to as Humanoid creatures. Also I was reading an article by Laura where she was explaining the limitations of our 3D linear thinking and it got me worried.

I cannot think through bends or corners, I AM A LINEAR THINKER, through and through. I read some of what the C's say and it goes right over my head especially when they start to talk about frequencies and all weird sciency stuff like circles, spirals, gravity waves etc etc. I am just like ok, I dont understand anything.

Also I should mention that my knowledge of aliens and extradimensional beings is pretty much near zero. I have never seen a UFO. If I have ever been abducted I have no recollection whatsoever of it. My picture of an alien in my head is alittle green guy. It went up a notch to like a walking crocodile type of creature. Now apparently there are humanoids aswell. I also have no idea about what I should feel towards them. Just a random question, could actually save my life in the event of an alien invasion. If I look up in the sky and see aliens like proper. Like omg, look it's aliens. Are they STS or STO? I ask because I have read in the wave there might be aliens coming and stuff. Like nephilims(dont know who they are). So friends or foes? To trust or not trust them?

Anyone that can offer me any help with regard to these issues, i'll be grateful.

The reason I am asking for clarification is because of late I have been dreaming of aliens. Never before in my life have I ever dreamt of aliens and acouple have hit me pretty much within the last couple of months.

My latest one I entered a room and there were acouple of people sat in there. They looked human. They were human. And they introduced themselves saying, we are from <I cannot remember> and we are here to help.

The one before that, I looked up in the sky and lo and behold, a bunch of ships coming down with a bunch of aliens. They were definately not human in appearance. Also this ones were masquerading about as friends. I definately 100% did not trust this little fellows despite 1 of them trying really hard to win my trust. Especially since I felt I did not have control over my own body.

The one before that was an abduction type scenario. An alien being abducted me, how dare they! I did not go quietly, that is all I will say! They were human! One of them didnt move like a human though, he was a quick agile fellow, more like some kind of soldier type person, infact he shot me acouple of times in the heart... Thank God it was only a dream.

And there it is, the sum total of my alien experiences. All within the last 2-3 months. I dont know if I should trust any of this alien persons saying they are my friend in my dreams... The last 2 happening pretty much within the last 2 weeks. I am worried as to the increased frequency. If I get 1 more anytime soon, I definately know something is up!

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Luke, have you read High Strangeness and The Wave in its entirety? I think you'll find answers to your questions in those books.

 

[luke wilson]

I havent read High strangeness but I am currently reading the wave.

I know about the part with the aliens telling you they are friends. They are not because they are abusing our free-will. That is what it says in the wave as I understand it. However in the wave this is with referance to lizzies and grays. Now the image I have of lizzies and grays is they are reptilian. The aliens I have been dreaming of are not reptilian. In 2 they look human and in 1 they looked something totally different but not reptilian. So I dont know. I am confused. Especially when someone introduces themself as a friend. I know it is just a dream so it doesnt matter but I always feel like I have the ability to make the choice, the choice to either believe what I am being told or not. I am just trying to get different points of view inorder to have more information to base making such a choice on.

With regard to Orion definition. From what I have come across in the wave, they dont have the definition. When Laura refers to them is when she is talking with the Cs - I didnt come across any preliminary introduction. However I looked in the cassiopedia and it said they were both 4d or higher STO and STS beings. In STS terms usually referred to as the group at the top of the 4D STS ladder. They also are humanoid creatures. So I jumped the gun with asking for this particular clarification as it is already there in the cassiopedia.

I havent come across the Nordic term in the wave yet - or atleast I dont think I have. I am in the last 10 chapters so I dont know if Laura is going to mention it or not. It's just that I was curious. I am trying to do my own research but it's hard to come up with the foundations. Most threads I see people just jump into the deep end. I was just looking for some basic understanding of who/what they are. Maybe you could point me in the right direction where I could gather a basic understanding of who they are?

In the cassiopedia the Nordic page is blank.


EDIT: Clarification.

 

[Volt]

Humanoid extraterrestrials are everywhere, both STS and STO. Many of them seem caucasian with fair hair. I'm assuming these are the nordics people keep talking about. If not then I've never encountered a nordic. Many STS groups are caucasian looking and wear the red uniforms with a diagonal stripe across the torso. Though other humanoid groups are STO, and not all nordics either, some look african or asian, especially in the eyes which are lower and wider. I'm familiar with greys, though not through direct contact (as far as I can remember). I've never had an experience with reptilians or "lizzies" through I'm very aware of an STS group with active recruiting efforts on this planet right now, they have aggressive-looking facial features, and a long segmented tail with a spade at the end, that they contantly thrash around. I'm surprised that I haven't found anyone describing them yet and I've lost patience in trying to find validation. Sometimes I wonder if those are the lizzies everyone keeps talking about. Though their facial features are more moth-like or insect-like than reptile-like, like a cross between a moth and a boar, with tusk-like appendages jutting up from their mouths. The only reptile-looking extraterrestrials I"m aware of from my limited experience are certainly of no threat to us humans, in fact a few are active in the confederacy and strongly STO polarized. They had greenish-brown segmented skin that would be hard to the touch. You could call them reptilian.

 

[shijing]

Hi Volt (aka ymunio, right?) --

Just out of curiosity, could you tell us how you came across the information you write about in your above post?

 

[Guardian]

I have a quick question.

What is a NORDIC?

I think Nordics are kinda like the waitresses at Hooters... they have a wide variety of personality types and backgrounds, with certain common attributes that sorta stand out. ;D

 

[Volt]

Shijing,
Yes, I'm new to this forum, and inadvertently I registered twice in the last week or so. To make things worse, I posted from the new account by accident, then after scrambling to delete that account I couldn't figure out how. Any advice? Didn't mean any harm, though there may have been some wine involved.

Regarding credibility, I'm drawing from subjective memory, some of it from my own experience with military abductions, some of it pre-incarnative. Hope that's okay. My veil came down a few years ago. The more I remember and the more it fits perfectly within the framework of channeled info sources, the harder it gets to keep it all a secret on forums such as this where people are asking questions and I'm dying to just say what I know. And I realize I probably sound crazy.

 

[shijing]

Yes, I'm new to this forum, and inadvertently I registered twice in the last week or so. To make things worse, I posted from the new account by accident, then after scrambling to delete that account I couldn't figure out how. Any advice? Didn't mean any harm, though there may have been some wine involved.

I think that it can be taken care of -- do you have a preference between "ymunio" and "Volt" if we merge the two profiles?

Regarding credibility, I'm drawing from subjective memory, some of it from my own experience with military abductions, some of it pre-incarnative. Hope that's okay. My veil came down a few years ago. The more I remember and the more it fits perfectly within the framework of channeled info sources, the harder it gets to keep it all a secret on forums such as this where people are asking questions and I'm dying to just say what I know. And I realize I probably sound crazy.

Not at all crazy, but probably in need of an objective network (in which case, you're in the right place). The reason I say that is because the kinds of experiences you seem to be describing can be legitimate in principle, but memories of them can be subjective and therefore misleading; the situation is further complicated by the fact that there is so much disinformation out there.

To clarify, what kind of experience do you have with military abductions (I assume you mean on the receiving end, but correct me if I'm wrong)? Also, when you say your veil came down, are you referring to your awareness of other incarnations?

And finally, have you started to read The Wave yet? If not, it would be a good idea to get going on that as well as start on High Strangeness if you can, since these will provide a lot of the framework for discussion of these kinds of topics here.

 

[ymunio]

Shijing,
Thanks for working out the profile situation. I agree that an objective framework is necessary for anyone doing any sort of memory retrieval. Especially for anyone remembering beyond the veil. When I began remembering my life as an old opium addict in Osaka my objective framework consisted mostly of Wikipedia. Looking up landmarks around the city, anything to validate or invalidate my memories as I was able to process old emotional baggage and progress futher backwards in time to before the war. (WWII) Cultural information is also invaluable, learning that all my memories of chinese calligraphy classes were viable, from the smell of bamboo and ink in calligraphy class to the style of electric light my father hung on his fishing boat, all appropriate for that location and era. An important step for training your rational mind to trust your intuitive mind, and your spiritual memory. Then came life as an orangutan in Indonesia, I was studying migration patterns and likely style of dress of an 18th century hunter in that region. Then 17th century England, 16th century Japan, 15th century Africa… at some point the need to validate everything faded. Until, the between-life memories came into focus, without which nothing really makes since anyways. And life in Earth's astral realm (the spirit world) even though we all go back there between lives, what goes on there is hard to undersand without framework like Michael Newton's books. He's regressed hundreds of patients to their experiences in the spirit realm and put all their stories together to deduce just how everything works there. Invaluable information.
If you've had incarnations on other planets, like me, you become aware of the massive bustling network of planets and outposts that exist all around the sheltered little elementary school we call Earth. The Ra material was invaluable as an objective framework for that. And as an added bonus, it also put into better perspective all the military abductions, (I was victim, not perpetrator) and the entire illuminati/new world order network as a whole, which I had to escape from back around '02 so that I could start a new life across the country and begin recovering from their mind control. Lots of objective framework available for that, there are survivor stories and support forums online and I relied on those for years. I'll add The Wave series and High Strangeness to my list. I'm trying to trudge through the Gnosis books.

 

[luke wilson]

Thanks for trying to explain Ymunio(Volt). You sure gave precise descriptions.

So I suppose it is pointless worrying about humanoid extraterrestials. The question is, who on earth is not an alien or of alien heritage...

Funny reply Guardian. What sort of common attributes do they have that stand out? <- Was that a joke also?

Really, who are Nordics - what kind of physical characteristics do they have? Where did they come from? Kantek? Are they what Hitler was calling the superior race(Aryans)?

I've heard that 4th or higher density STO can manifest themselves on 3D earth with no problems compared to there STS counter-parts. Is this true?

Also I have heard that some alien humanoid group is on earth posing as humanbeings - the Cs say this in one of the transcripts I think. Is this true aswell? What group? Why are they doing this, what do they want? Does anyone know?

Is this like classified stuff that someone like me should not know, let alone be asking about? I am just curious.... Who wouldnt be curious when you read such stuff...?

 

[luke wilson]

Hurrah I finally found out who the Nordics are. :D

It was in the cassiopedia after all. Just under aliens.

I need help building my own personal research skills or ability to find things out through my own effort instead of being spoonfed.

Does anyone have any hints on how I can build such a skill? My mind and being when faced with an obstacle it cant overcome has a tendancy to run to seek help instead of trying harder. I have been accused of giving up to easy or lacking 'the follow through' or the endurance required to find out a solution to a hard problem.

 

[shijing]

Hi Ymunio --

I'll add The Wave series and High Strangeness to my list. I'm trying to trudge through the Gnosis books.

I would consider bumping up The Wave series and High Strangeness to the top of your reading list, since they might be of the most direct benefit to you based on what you've described. Just a suggestion -- otherwise, it's great that you are tackling Gnosis and have already read the Ra material.

I would also recommend starting the E/E Breathing Program, at least the pipe-breathing and meditation, as it can have both physical and metaphysical benefits. Also, are you getting enough sleep? It would also do you good to check out the Diet and Health thread, if you haven't already, to start detoxifying and trying to get your body in as optimal condition as possible after everything you've been dealing with.

 

[shijing]

Hi luke wilson --

I need help building my own personal research skills or ability to find things out through my own effort instead of being spoonfed.

Does anyone have any hints on how I can build such a skill?

In this particular case, what stands out to me is that you can start developing your search skills. The main Cass interfaces (the forum, SOTT, the Cassiopedia, etc) all have search functions, and the first thing you could do would be to get creative with those before asking a question. For example, I notice that on the Cassiopedia, if you search for "Nordic", the entry that you were looking for pops up as the first (and maybe this is how you eventually found it). If you can't find something the first time you search, try to get creative and think of related words you might use. Also, don't hesitate to just use Google. This strategy won't work in every single instance, but it will the majority of the time, and it will be easier to ask a question when you can say, "I already did a search". I hope that helps to get you started :)