How do humans change the cycle for 1D and 2D?

[T.C.]

If earth (for example) and its inhabitants are a reflection of all that is then a seed had to grow from somewhere to become a flower, only if we didn’t see it grow then we can assume it was always a flower?

This presents questions along the following lines:

1) At what point does a seed become a flower?

2) At what points in the development of seeds do we consider them as being separate entities from the flower that is producing them?

3) Can we ever say that a single individual flower has at some point not existed?

Because, we could say something along the lines of:

A flower was at some point a seed. That seed was at some point part of the flower that made it. And keep going back like that.

So then, when we are thinking about time, we can look at it in slices. If I take a cone and push the point of it through a piece of paper, what would happen two dimensionally is that a tiny circle would appear, and then gradually grow larger as the cone is pushed through.

But if the idea of the flower/seed life cycle is not a particular instantiation, but an everlasting idea of God (or if not everlasting, then at the very least existing during the present 309kyr cycle), then what we are seeing when we look at a flower is a cross-section of that idea as it is being ‘pushed through’ our dimension of reality.

In our case (and in the Kantian sense) due to our engineering and programming, we ourselves are acting as the piece of paper by virtue of the dimensions of time and space that we impose/that is imposed on us through our genetics in combination with our belief centre, which together determine our interface and perception of reality.

And that’s how something that is eternal can appear to us humans as becoming, being, and ending.

 

[bozadi]

At the level of the game's source code, all the sprites came into existence at the same time (or have always existed) - the information needed to create them is all there in the source code on my hard drive. Every possibility of the game world exists in potential, right from the start.

But at the level of the sprites themselves, they came into being at different times, and have different lifespans, etc..they're born and live out their lives, have "children", die, etc...

Thank you for sharing that! : ) Good example, I think.

 

[bozadi]

I’m just not satisfied that there was not a beginning

I'm not satisfied either but based on my trust in the Ra-Cassiopaean cosmology and some other sources, I believe I'm more likely to find eventual satisfaction in the idea/truth of beginningless-endlessness instead of eternally seeking a beginning

 

[bozadi]

The question also arises: Is the 5D self of a Lizzie STO? Like all 6D Higher Selves are STO? I mean, are all 5D selves of lower density souls STO? Considering that there are 5D STS beings who can even graduate to 6D STS, it seems that not all 5D selves can be STO. Maybe the 5D selves of lower density beings are not necessarily STO or STS? This might be related to the "raw" consciousness of 5D selves, as I view it. There's most probably a natural inclination towards STO, but it's not absolute.

 

[Mari]

if one polarises to STO that they instantaneously poof off from our reality… where do they go?

Are you referring to 3D STS being polarises to 3D STO being, or 3D STS being polarises to 4D STO being?

 

[Fluffy]

That's a very interesting and maybe also mind-boggling point, I think, and might also be related to the issue of "creation of souls".

Let's take one of your 5D baby spirit sparks and suppose that it's a student of 1D, which we probably were once upon a time. This statement itself sounds like a paradox: a 5D spirit who's a 1D soul. The 5D spirit spark probably "knows everything" (or does it?), but in its 1D soul extension, it's like an ignoramus. Maybe we can say that the super-consciousness of the 5D self is "raw" in a certain sense, although it's most probably "in union with the One"; that is, an individual self who is in perfect resonance and identification with 7D. It's like a raw knowledge that needs to be cooked in practice. Can it also be likened to an ideal son/prince of an ideal King? Until a certain time, the son has always been in the royal palace, but to qualify as the future king, he needs to have a thorough knowledge of the kingdom in all its parts and aspects. He already knows a lot, but almost completely theoretical. I believe this process of testing theoretical knowledge in actual practice and becoming masterful is also a process of "self-realization" in the sense of becoming "self-aware" through "self-actualization".

The C's say "All souls are advanced." Does this refer to the 5D self? Is our soul our 5D self? And/or our 6D Higher Self? Or is it also possible to call our 3D soul "advanced"?


I think what is described here for a "smashed soul" is the same as what happens to an STS being who goes into a black hole. We talk about "becoming primal matter". "Who" becomes primal matter? The being who goes into a black hole is said to become non-existent, not primal matter. The C's say the primal matter is produced "in place of" the now-extinct being. But is there still someone that kind of experiences "becoming primal matter"? Can it be the 5D self? It appears to me that the 5D self doesn't become non-existent, it's rather its lower density extension. So, it's the 5D self who starts the cycle over to acquire consciousness in millions or billions of years. But the term "consciousness" in the expression "...acquire consciousness in millions or billions of years" sounds a bit strange because a 5D self is already super-conscious. It's 5D after all! But as I said above, it's not an applied, tested, utilized, or realized awareness, I suppose.

I had also wanted to make a connection to the subject of "creation of souls" through this discussion but I couldn't. In a nutshell, I wonder what happens to a 5D self when its lower and practical extension/self finally graduates to 5D, completely merges with it, and is ready to progress towards 6D. Is, then, a new 5D baby spirit spark produced in its place? Or is the 5D self somewhat like a case or shell that is always stationed there, and it's only the water-like consciousness flows through it? Like a classroom? A certain class is schooled in it, then they graduate, and then a new class of students occupy that classroom? I mean, is the "creation of souls" is a continuous process like that? I'm trying to make sense of the following:

Speaking of mind boggling, you’ve just boggled mine so much so that I pretty much have nothing to respond with. Now I want to throw my baby spirit sparks idea out the window and lean towards all knowing all powerful evolved souls that reside in 5D manning the reins of all other aspects of self.
In fact, now that I’m typing I recall an interactive imagery I had years ago of the ‘master’ (didn’t know about densities and things then) This master, whom I assumed was me in my all knowing and encompassing state had hundreds if not thousands of stringlike extensions and at the end of each string was a bubble that was a reality the master was experiencing all at once, the bubbles themselves were all connected to eachother like a web. I could go into the bubbles and view what was happening in that experience and how they related to other bubbles. I had a lot of time in my hands back then and would spend hours ‘hanging out’ in these bubbles observing.

I don’t know how this relates to what we are talking about, actually we are so far from the original topic, not sure if any of it makes sense at all.

 

[Fluffy]

Are you referring to 3D STS being polarises to 3D STO being, or 3D STS being polarises to 4D STO being?

3DSTS being reaching 51% STO

 

[bozadi]

Speaking of mind boggling, you’ve just boggled mine so much so that I pretty much have nothing to respond with.

I'm both sorry and also grinning for some (egotistical?) reason!

In fact, now that I’m typing I recall an interactive imagery I had years ago of the ‘master’ (didn’t know about densities and things then) This master, whom I assumed was me in my all knowing and encompassing state had hundreds if not thousands of stringlike extensions and at the end of each string was a bubble that was a reality the master was experiencing all at once, the bubbles themselves were all connected to eachother like a web. I could go into the bubbles and view what was happening in that experience and how they related to other bubbles. I had a lot of time in my hands back then and would spend hours ‘hanging out’ in these bubbles observing.

Your imagery can very well be having firm roots in reality, I suppose.

 

[Mari]

The question also arises: Is the 5D self of a Lizzie STO? Like all 6D Higher Selves are STO? I mean, are all 5D selves of lower density souls STO? Considering that there are 5D STS beings who can even graduate to 6D STS, it seems that not all 5D selves can be STO. Maybe the 5D selves of lower density beings are not necessarily STO or STS? This might be related to the "raw" consciousness of 5D selves, as I view it. There's most probably a natural inclination towards STO, but it's not absolute.

Perhaps this can help:

(Adobe) In much of the NDE, and karmic studies, the STS path entities are under-represented. Can you help with understanding why?

(Adobe via Zoom) Am I still on? We've been discussing that on the Near Death Experience or Afterlife thread, and in reading through the books, we're going, "Hey, where's all the baddies?" You know, when you hear the near death experience and the karmic stuff, you always hear these great, wonderful stories. If someone dies and it's all wonderful and they come back and it's all wonderful and it's like, "Hey, is there any bad over there?" Where are the service to self people that are putting together a program for their next life where they're gonna do real bad stuff? They're coming down here to learn how to be baddies. So there's no stories of that. So why is the negative side of the other dimensions and densities unrepresented when we go to read about near death and karmic stuff? Well, some of the stuff does, like the recent movie, and I forget the name of it, the 'Astral City' and also Wicklands '30 years among Dead'. They do represent some negativity, but it's generally lost souls not far from us. So let's get back to the question. Okay. Why is the negativity less represented in the truth at 5D?

A: 5th density does not work that way. Negative entities are intensely entropic and sort of gravitationally enclosed so as to give them the opportunity to reflect on their choices. They may then decide to try again but it is rare for the truly negative to reincarnate. They are subsumed.

Q: (PoB) So why there are not less and less of them on the earth?

(L) Well, I think it's because the negativity draws from... I mean so many what we call negative individuals are like psychopaths, which is like a defective OP. They don't really have a reincarnating soul anyway. They're just a portal for negative 4D STS energies to enter into the world. And there's plenty of OPs. Plus the fact that the normal soul - and you use "normal" kind of loosely - is always subjected to the pool of STS by virtue of being in the body and being subjected to all of the temptations and the vicissitudes of life in a more-or-less unfriendly environment. Earth is really kind of not a really friendly place with all of its things that just happen, but naturally. So I think that there's plenty of opportunity for negativity. And I also think that sometimes what we might consider to be a negative individual or negative entity or negative events from a larger cosmic perspective may not be that at all.

(Joe) Well, there's the idea of 4th density STS and being able to graduate, so you assume it's someone who was incarnated in 3D repeatedly over and over again and entrench themselves in an STS way of being to the point that they are eligible to take a place.

(L) I think what happens is that there are just OPs and they get utilized, they get downloaded. Is that it? I mean, when we're thinking about really negative individuals on earth, are we talking about basically OPs that get downloaded by 4D STS, which can't go any higher than 4D?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So it's a different economy altogether than that which operates for souls recycling and so forth?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) So how are 4D STS beings... How do they get to be there then if they haven't gone through, you know what I mean? I mean the natural progression for non-STS or not fully STS beings?

A: Different process. And they must achieve a high percentage of negativity in a single lifetime. And, yes, some of the extremely negative types do go directly to 4D STS.

Q: (Andromeda) Maybe they don't go to the contemplation zone. Like if some soul has a destiny, they can pass that energy... just goes into another body, but they don't need to contemplate, do they?

(Joe) It just seems to be a lot of those types. They're quite negative and supposedly there's an equal number of 4D STS and 4D STO, right? I'm just wondering, where do they all come from? How do you get an equal number?

(PoB) And they are coming in, in bigger numbers because it seems that the percentage is kind of constant through generations, let's say this 6% or whatever...

(L) Well, if you think about it, when you read Lobaczewski and he talks about the influence of pathological types on the human population and the percentage of the really negative psychopathic types and then the larger percentage of the other different pathologies that surround them, and then the even larger circle of those who are wounded or damaged in some way, who then are attracted to that sort of pathology. You see, kind of a similar thing is what's going on in 5D? They're only a few really negative ones and they might go directly to 4D because they achieved that level in a lifetime. But the others go and they experience what's described in all of the literature and they reincarnate and they have another chance and another chance. And maybe it takes a number of lifetimes of them going through this and experiencing that to choose right. To really choose. And then they may choose to go totally negative and then finally just go to a 4D as an STS. Is that close to what we're talking about here?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So you may see on the surface there's an awful lot of negativity, but the core of it is a small number of essential psychopaths and then the ever widening circles of lesser and lesser pathologies and then out to normal people. How many normal people do and have done and will do and are driven to or inspired to, or drawn into doing very, very bad things even though they're maybe not essentially evil, right?

(Joe) They can go and make amends and they learn through a lot. They're just saying that most people aren't that way inclined. That's why, in answer to the question, that's why you don't, in the literarature, you don't see much in the way of negative entities or beings or demons, whatever, hanging out in 5D, cuz that's not what 5D is for essentially.

(L) The essential nature of the negative entity is not to be sharing, right? So they're having an experience, they would be in their own zone. And that zone is kind of...

(Joe) Closed off, segregated.

(L) Is that also close to the way it is?

A: Yes

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Based on the above, and what I´ve already quoted from the Wave, 5D STS "lives" in a special segregated / closed off part of 5D, where they exist in a “encapsulated” state until they gain sufficient “weight” to graduate to sixth density STS.

As for 5D self of a 4D Lizzie, I assume it is the same or similar process, assuming again what the Cs said it is very rare for a 4D STS being to change polarity.
Also interesting is that 4D beings do NOT forget their past lives.

(M) Did anyone ever ask if in 4D, when a life span is over and then is recycled to 5D and then back to 4D, does the same thing happen where the past life is mostly forgotten like in 3D?

(L) Now that's an interesting question. If a person recycles from 4D to 5D to 4D again, do they forget their past lives?

A: No.

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Which means that with or without 5D reflection 4D STS are permanently fixed on their STS path, so I assume that their 5D self is on board with it all and therefore is STS as well.

On the other hand, on the Tree of Life image, 5D is in the middle axis, which could suggest that 5D selves of either 3/4D STO beings or 3/4D STS beings are "neutral" and go with the flow, so to say....

 

[Mari]

3DSTS being reaching 51% STO

How I see it, if you are a 3D STS being reaching 51% "STO" in this life, you would still be in this 3D STS world until you either die or a realm border crossing event occurs.

A: ... You are confused because you seem to think you must be STO to be an STO candidate. You are STS, and you simply cannot be otherwise, until you either reincarnate or transform at realm border crossing.

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See here additional info about realms: Realm

p.s. you do realize you can also research this things? It´s good to theorize but before spamming ideas you could research your idea first and then when you see that something is not clear or you are stuck - ask.

 

[bozadi]

Based on the above, and what I´ve already quoted from the Wave, 5D STS "lives" in a special segregated / closed off part of 5D, where they exist in a “encapsulated” state until they gain sufficient “weight” to graduate to sixth density STS.

Yes, I think this is also closely related to a point I tried to make previously: 4D is the middle density, with 3 physical densities below (from a short wave perspective) and 3 etheric densities above it. And I believe the mid-point of this middle density is a threshold, passing upon which you are in the etheric half of existence. So, I believe the black hole phenomenon (%100 STS/negativity) is below that threshold. I assume, when an STS being has passed that threshold, this means it has given up the option of going non-existent, even if it can still cling to STS for some time more. This somehow explains why STS is not represented in 5D as much as STO.

Another interesting point I notice about mid-4D is that, it's a kind of "3.5". I mean it is 3 densities + 0.5 density. And, being in 4D, it's located between 3D and 5D. For some reason, this reminds me of the enigmatic 353535 code which the C's mentioned. Somehow, I believe, this might be relating to the fact that mid-4D is kind of the boundary between material realms and etherieal realms. STS with full potentiality can only happen below that threshold.

Being the very middle point of all seven densities, mid-4D is located exactly opposite to the big-bang or final phase of 7D, I think, if 7 densities are divided equally on a circle.

 

[Wandering Star]

Well may be, as been mentioned by multiple sources, if one polarises to STO that they instantaneously poof off from our reality…

No

I thought for a while about whether to intervene or not.

So I looked through the transcripts for a while but you better do it if you want.

The usual way to go to fourth density is to die.

With the wave you can go to fourth density without dying, but it is a so-called anomaly.

If STS is polarized do you also go poof and disappear?

 

[brandon]

No

I thought for a while about whether to intervene or not.

So I looked through the transcripts for a while but you better do it if you want.

The usual way to go to fourth density is to die.

With the wave you can go to fourth density without dying, but it is a so-called anomaly.

If STS is polarized do you also go poof and disappear?

Here you go..

A: Now, blockbuster for you: 3rd level beings who reach total STO profile automatically and instantaneously go to 4th level at moment achieved!

Q: (T) They just vanish? Have people done that before here?

A: Yes.

!

(and there's more in that session about why 4D STO doesn't switch back to STS)

 

[bozadi]

Here you go..

A: Now, blockbuster for you: 3rd level beings who reach total STO profile automatically and instantaneously go to 4th level at moment achieved!

Q: (T) They just vanish? Have people done that before here?

A: Yes.

Yeah, I was trying to remember that dialog, thank you. It's such an interesting info!!! And I believe 51% STO corresponds to "total STO profile" somehow because, otherwise, 100% STO/positivity would probably mean "big-bang" (7D).

As an additional note: Ra says a certain amount of people preferred to remain in 3D STS to help others although they were eligible for graduation to 4D STO. I believe they somehow control their level of polarization, keeping it below 51%, perhaps? Other than that, as you know, there seems to be some walk-in STO folks, as an exception to the rule.

 

[Tomiro]

Here you go..

A: Now, blockbuster for you: 3rd level beings who reach total STO profile automatically and instantaneously go to 4th level at moment achieved!

Q: (T) They just vanish? Have people done that before here?

A: Yes.

(and there's more in that session about why 4D STO doesn't switch back to STS)

The C:s have said that less than 3000 people have "escaped from 3D during this cycle". So apparently it's quite rare outside of some "realm border crossing" event.

Q: (A) They say they are trying to actively do something in 4D. IS this possible?

A: When it is, it is. But there is a catch: you generally don't get to come back unless you are of the manipulative ilk, i.e. STS

Q: (A) In the history we know, how many people managed to escape from 3D?

A: Vanishingly rare Night!!!

Q: (L) What does night mean?

A: Henry's jokes.

Q: (A) I really want to know an approximate number

A: Less than 3,000 in this cycle.

Q: (L) That's pretty depressing.

A: Remember the wave. Networking works.