How to practice objectivity?

[riclapaz]

I find it interesting what this author (Erich Fromm) mentions about objectivity, add an ingredient more, humility, here an extract Yas shared in another thread:

"The main condition for the achievement of love is the overcoming of one's narcissism. The narcissistic orientation is one in which one experiences as real only that which exists within oneself, while the phenomena in the outside world have no reality in themselves, but are experienced only from the viewpoint of their being useful or dangerous to one. The opposite pole to narcissism is objectivity; it is the faculty to see other people and things as they are, objectively, and to be able to separate this objective picture from a picture which is formed by one's desires and fears.”

“The faculty to think objectively is reason; the emotional attitude behind reason is that of humility. To be objective, to use one's reason, is possible only if one has achieved an attitude of humility, if one has emerged from the dreams of omniscience and omnipotence which one has as a child. Love, being dependent on the relative absence of narcissism, requires the developement of humility, objectivity and reason.

 

[Thaigrr]

I find it interesting what this author (Erich Fromm) mentions about objectivity, add an ingredient more, humility, here an extract Yas shared in another thread:

"The main condition for the achievement of love is the overcoming of one's narcissism. The narcissistic orientation is one in which one experiences as real only that which exists within oneself, while the phenomena in the outside world have no reality in themselves, but are experienced only from the viewpoint of their being useful or dangerous to one. The opposite pole to narcissism is objectivity; it is the faculty to see other people and things as they are, objectively, and to be able to separate this objective picture from a picture which is formed by one's desires and fears.”

“The faculty to think objectively is reason; the emotional attitude behind reason is that of humility. To be objective, to use one's reason, is possible only if one has achieved an attitude of humility, if one has emerged from the dreams of omniscience and omnipotence which one has as a child. Love, being dependent on the relative absence of narcissism, requires the developement of humility, objectivity and reason.

I just finished reading those very same lines. In the entire review that is what resonated the most for me. Once a person's desires and fears are tempered/

minimized then a picture of truth can manifest.

 

[Nienna]

Another relevant article is this one: http://thecasswiki.net/index.php?title=Truth

At the end are also links to two articles by Laura on the main Cassiopaea.org website, which are about living in truth - this being the meaning of true esoteric and Fourth Way work.

EDIT: Also, when it comes to practicing objectivity in daily life, another very important concept which ties into it is strategic enclosure: http://thecasswiki.net/index.php?title=Strategic_enclosure

Here is an example of how important a strategic enclosure is. Thank you for the links to this subject Psalehesost. I'll be reading for hours on the related subjects.

Concerning all the narratives about the Germanwings crash. I am a flight attendant in the US for a regional carrier. For the past few weeks, people come onboard asking how the pilots are feeling and if they are depressed. One man noted we have glass instruments, duh, but it was an indication he had researched the subject beyond the official story. It is hard to play dumb and just smile it all away day after day. On my last trip, the first officer that was standing beside me, as we greeted the passengers and had been asked repeatedly how he was doing and to make sure there are two pilots and don't leave the cockpit. I, stupidly, made the aside comment to the FO that that wasn't what happened. I later regretted this slip when a short uncomfortable discussion about what I thought had really caused the crash was in direct opposition to the worldview possibilities of my crew. I came off as a "crazy conspiracy theorist'. It alienated me for the next two days, which is something I will now avoid at all costs in the future. Partly out of learning a greater respect that practically everyone I know is sound asleep and want to remain so as is their choice. Also, that it I did not create a positive communications work environment. I truly wish I had read the CassWilki about Strategic Enclosures, although I now have re enforcement of why the practical application of objective knowledge. is so vital. I was so disappointed in myself for not keeping quiet when I have felt the consequences of not doing so at many other times. Continuing to work silently takes on a new meaning for me. PS Truly enjoyed the Sott Behind the Headlines: What really happened to the Germanwings plane. Many thanks to Neill and Joe.

Don't be too hard on yourself, Charade. I think most of us have gone through something similar. And there is no better teacher than experience. The lessons are hard to learn, but they "stick" much better. And, I guess, it really drives home just how many people are really asleep.

 

[Charade]

Nienna,

Thank you for the vote of confidence and reassurances. I was truly disappointed that I hadn't reacted neutrally. I physically felt like something within and around me had sustained damage. Spent a quiet day alone, recuperating and energetically repairing the sensation to a sense of inner balance. I think this impression will have a lasting affect.

Susan