How true is Gnosticism according to the Cs?

armondjmusic

A Disturbance in the Force
Context :
today, i want to talk as much as i can about archons, who are frequently mentioned in gnostic teachings.

first, let's summarize what gnostic texts say about archons: while sophia, who is associated with wisdom and knowledge, normally creates masculine and feminine creations, one day, wondering "what would it be like if i created without complying with duality?", she decides to create alone and as a result, the being called demiurge (yaldaboath) is born as a fatherless child. yaldaboath is described in the texts as a consciousness form that sees itself as the only superior being, does not care about everything and everyone else, and lacks empathy. yaldaboath is also described as the "chief of the archons" and the traps are mentioned in which they imprison people in the material world, manipulate them, distract people with artificial realities, etc. together with their archon assistants.

we see in these teachings that, just like in other religious teachings, the truths and the falsehoods are mixed together. Now let's talk about this and clear the muddy water. I will go through the items:

1) In gnostic teachings, Yaldaboath is defined as the god of the universe. However, it would be more accurate to say that Yaldaboath is "the leader of those who built the universe" rather than the god of the universe. The god of the universe is Yahweh. We can explain the difference between the two functionally with a matching example:

Let the universe = homeland and consciousness forms = people. In this case;
The president of the country = Yahweh.
Other members in the parliament & ministries = various advanced free will forms such as deity, elementals, snake races, etc.
Various sub-administrations, institutions and directorates affiliated to ministries = angel and demon spirits.

In this case, the archons correspond to the following: defining how state units will work, determining state buildings and the civil servants who will work in them, determining the duties of the cadres in the lower and upper units of the state, etc. They lay the foundation of the mechanism that Yahweh will carry out his activities. Yaldaboath is the leader of this huge structure. In other words, Yaldaboath is not a god, but the system that makes the order in which the real god will act as god sustainable and workable.

In addition, the Archons keep records of the evolution process of all consciousness forms and follow their karmic balances moment by moment. They decide whether the consciousness forms will reincarnate or not, and if they will reincarnate, with what kind of natal chart they will come to the world. They consider who will be affected by astrological energies, how much and to what extent, and they build a reality accordingly. What did the consciousness forms use their free will for, how much positive & negative karma they opened on which subject, which karma they closed, what did they manifest, what did they do magic on, where and how much blockage they have, what is the condition of their aura and chakras, what is the condition of their mental health, etc. They follow all of these meticulously in detail. They only let those who deserve it go, and they continue to keep the others in the matrix with various traps and sudden interventions.

2) Let's talk a little about the symbolic visual of Yaldaboath *. We see that the head area is depicted as a lion and the rest of the body is depicted as a snake. The head corresponds to the 1st house in medical astrology, so here we need to remember the meanings of Aries, which is its natural ruler. We know that Aries' meanings include impulsiveness, belligerence, combativeness, desire for leadership, struggle for survival, ambition to be at the forefront, etc. Leo, on the other hand, is an ego-driven sign since its ruler is the Sun. As for the snake symbol, we have previously discussed the distinction between the single snake and the double spiral snake in Cadeceus. While the spiral snake is more focused on the balance of giving and receiving, we have explained that the single snake does not focus much on balance and acts more according to its own will, as you know.

So if we combine all these meanings, the meaning of the symbol is as follows: "I will do what I want, let no one interfere with me. I don't care what will happen to you because of what I will do. Because I am superior to all of you."

We have mentioned how dark the universe and therefore the forms of consciousness are. The origin of this darkness is based on the empathy-deprived mentality of Yaldaboath, whom Sophia gave birth to. The reason why he lacks empathy is that he was born without duality.

3) So what will we, as forms of consciousness, do in the face of this cruelty? Should we be afraid? Should we rain down all sorts of insults on the archons and Yaldaboath as written in the sources? The answer to this varies from person to person. In fact, to be frank; those who are wounded are offended. If a person has come to their senses and is sincerely trying to improve their life, the universe already supports them. They don't need to be afraid. But others will live out their destiny whether they are afraid or not. Then, as in the style of writing religious texts, they will waste their lives blaming others with the mentality of "external forces are messing with me"


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Questions:

1 - How true is Gnosticism ?
2 - If true, who is Yaldabaoth?
3 - If true, who are the Archons?
 
3 . Session 20 October 1994 :

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Q: The physical universe is their god?

A: Yes.

(...)

2 . Session 7 June 1997 :

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Q: In a previous session where you introduced the concept of perpendicular realities, you stated that (T) was connected to a particular reality called 'Neormm.' You also designated the 'thought center' of STS as Ormethion. I noticed the similarity of the names. Is there a relationship?

(...)

( Comment , different name but seems to apply as per your written concepts )

1. up to you
 
3 . Session 20 October 1994 :

(...)

Q: The physical universe is their god?

A: Yes.

(...)

2 . Session 7 June 1997 :

(...)

Q: In a previous session where you introduced the concept of perpendicular realities, you stated that (T) was connected to a particular reality called 'Neormm.' You also designated the 'thought center' of STS as Ormethion. I noticed the similarity of the names. Is there a relationship?

(...)

( Comment , different name but seems to apply as per your written concepts )

1. up to you
I love the answers that come from the sessions.
 
I've read and re-read many of the texts from the Nag-Hammadi library. I can't say it's a completely coherent "canon", but I think it does represent some consistent cosmology and philosophical thought. The texts discovered in 1945 were only a part of that library (apparently), as many of the rest had been burned as fuel and the original Egyptian family that discovered them had no idea of their value.

As to their "truth" or accuracy, I think that would be very difficult to decipher. If they are, as proposed by scholarship, influenced or related to the Coptic Monk Valentinus in the first century AD, then this Gnosticism was written during a very tumultuous time - possibly near the complete destruction of the western empire. Revelation and the Gospel of John do appear to have some strong Gnostic associations.

Other than Nag-Hammadi, I don't think there are proven primary source Gnostic texts, but I could be wrong.

You can check out this thread where the timeline for the end of the Roman world is discussed which highlights the difficulty in assigning dates to texts, which is a major problem. Also the Western Empire may have been destroyed decades before the Eastern Empire with information transported/translated and interpolated from Latin to Greek in Constantinople and later in Syria.

Were 460 years added to the official chronology?

Paul's Ephesians 6:12 echoes the concept of the "archon's" unseen world in charge of our realm, which we could interpret as 4D STS:

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

It seems to me that Gnostic ideas have an influence in Christianity from the very beginning with some sects viewing Yahweh as a kind of "Yaldaboath". Paul attempted to remedy this with his universal faith. You can read the details in Laura's book, "From Paul to Mark" as well as other threads on the forum related to Paul, Mithraism and Caesar.

The ancient world was very "connected" as the C's say, and Gnosticism likely wasn't isolated.

In terms of the Gnostic cosmology, I don't know that there's a source out there that will be able to decode those ideas in detail. To me, it does seem to me that the cosmology has to come from Zoroastrianism. There are so many parallels, and the reforms of Zarathustra hundreds of years before the Gnostics, focus on the same concerns of theophanies, higher dimensional overlords and polarization/duality.

Some of the hymns from the Nag-Hammadi (ie: "Thunder") read very similar to the Gathas attributed to Zoroaster hundreds of years before. So I do think there is a connection.

This is an excellent thread to study as well:

Zoroastrianism a Paleolithic Religion, Origin of Monotheism, Salvation Theology?

The Nag-Hammadi library is a fascinating look into the ancient world that seemingly survived by random chance.
 
My trusted source of eh , gnosticism has been , B. Mouravieff , as for "earlier sources " , there's always language and cultural drift (...) , but when it can be objectively squared one knows when you're onto to something , like say some of the of of the Indian Swami's vis a vis some of their knowledge and exercises ( as mentioned in gnosis ie) , or in the west , more recently like C. Webster Leadbeater , "down" to Wilhelm Reich for example. I'm giving disparate examples , far from what is usually classified as Gnosticism , but as far as i'm concerned , objective knowledge from say , Ibn Arabi or say Seth or Ra , should match , even if through different words and images. ( my two cents / blah )
 
I know in the FOTCM statement of principles they reject the notion of this universe being an "imperfect" creation by a demiurge.

I don't think "universe" is translated exactly how we see it here vs. Gnosticism. I may be wrong, but I think the Gnostic understanding of what the demiruge created was in this "realm". And possibly not creating it, but "ruling" it. I haven't delved into Gnosticism in a long time, but if you go through the Nag-Hammadi texts, I think the Archons imposition of their STS-like plans is an incursion into our 3D realm. Similar to how Zarathrustra described Zurvan (the infinite) sending/emanating the choice of harmony with Ahura-Mazda or dissonance with Angra-Mainyu (entropy/lies).
 
My trusted source of eh , gnosticism has been , B. Mouravieff , as for "earlier sources " , there's always language and cultural drift (...) , but when it can be objectively squared one knows when you're onto to something , like say some of the of of the Indian Swami's vis a vis some of their knowledge and exercises ( as mentioned in gnosis ie) , or in the west , more recently like C. Webster Leadbeater , "down" to Wilhelm Reich for example. I'm giving disparate examples , far from what is usually classified as Gnosticism , but as far as i'm concerned , objective knowledge from say , Ibn Arabi or say Seth or Ra , should match , even if through different words and images. ( my two cents / blah )
You basically summed up what took me a lot of words to get too. There's a different culture in different history that has some group trying to get to objectivity based on a complex Cosmology. There's value in exploring many threads, but keeping the skeptical mind to make sure we don't perceive once source as all that there is.
 
My opinion is that the demiurge is superfluous because of Sophia, God, and even Jesus, the last being made out of either logos or nous. It was invented by Plato to explain why God's perfection allows for imperfection. The real answer is free will.

That said, the demiurge may well exist for all I know, and I make no real determination. I would say the existence of evil is superfluous too, even though it exists as a choice.
 
Conciousness created the 3D realm there is as we know a “battle” for control which is constant between STS and STO. You can get to know both and then use your free will decision making to go toward STO no matter what STS throws at you. Learning The 4th way work will help one know and control thy self within this reality/data point giving one time to choose.

STO learns from our reactions and interactions with STO the creator watches the system watches our reactions or non reactions to STS are recorded. Conciousness learns from us individual units of conciousness
 
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