Hurricane Irene

[stellar]

This also looks like another "loss related to water" situation from Laura's latest Dot Connector Astro-Matrix.

I sure hope this won't be related to '5D city on a hill'. :(

 

[Alejo]

This also looks like another "loss related to water" situation from Laura's latest Dot Connector Astro-Matrix.

I sure hope this won't be related to '5D city on a hill'. :(

Seems unlikely to me, but we shall see..we did just have that earthquake pretty close, a thought that occurred to me just now.. Imagine both forces striking simultaneously? They did call this past earthquake a forthcall.

 

[mocachapeau]

I hope you all get through this with minimum damage and disruption. My thoughts are with you.

 

[Keit]

Hurricane Irene live feed video:
_http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-severe-weather-webcam

According to the description of the one who posted it on the Israeli news forum, the filming guy is located in a place where the weather is supposed to intensify within the next several hours. He is in his car and sometimes moves to a different location. Not smart at all, imo. At the moment he talks to someone over the phone or radio and describes everything that happens. Some other storm chasers arrived, so he got out to talk to them too. They told him that they saw a jeep abandoned with all the doors open and the owner is nowhere to be found.

And this one is from North Carolina
_http://www.ustream.tv/channel/hurricane-irene-in-new-bern-nc
They say the following:

"Live video feed from New Bern, North Carolina during Hurricane Irene. Next to New Bern High School.[...]
If the stream cuts out for about 5 minutes, then we've had a temporary power outage. If the stream cuts out for longer, power is out for good. But check back on the hour for mobile stream updates!"

Here another one:
_http://www.surfchex.com/

 

[Scottie]

There's something that bothers me about all the "news" on this storm. First of all, it's BIG. Second of all, depending on what you read, they claim either that it will hit NC as a Category 3, or that it will be "only" Category 1.

By the time it hits NYC, it's supposed to be only a tropical storm, and yet some sources say the expected wind speeds would actually make it much higher than a tropical storm. Plus, this is apparently the first time NYC is shutting down all mass transit systems due to a storm.

So, it seems to me that this storm may be a heckuva lot bigger than most of the media is reporting. That would fit with the past Katrina debacle.

Maybe they want people to think that the media is blowing it out of proportion, when it's actually going to be a monster storm. Or maybe they simply don't know because they're trying to predict what will happen with storm models that are based on BS science.

Oh well, "wait and see" I guess...

 

[anothermagyar]

You could be right, Mr Scott.
I'm no weather expert but I've heard is difficult to predict the"behavior" of a storm.
It would be indeed great to know.
But we should prepare for the worst and "wait and see..."
Btw, I heard Mickie(Bloomberg) was preparing ships and boats in case more people needed to leave The City.
My friend works in a restaurant in Upper Manhattan and she lives in Queens and her manager wants her to go work!!!
Insane! But where she's gonna go after the subway is shut down and bridges are closed?!?
Some boss she's got there, of course the manager stays at home!
She's not going to work and probably this is gonna cost her job.

This is the first time I will be experiencing anything like this, and what are the odds right after an earthquake

Same here.

And everyone from the EE group in NYC, I've been away for quite sometime but my thoughts are with you guys, stay safe

Thank you and thanks all of you guys for the concern, I will get more water, food and candles.
We live in Brooklyn non evacuation- area I was wondering if I should put boards on the windows in case the wind is huge.

 

[truth seeker]

My friend works in a restaurant in Upper Manhattan and she lives in Queens and her manager wants her to go work!!!
Insane! But where she's gonna go after the subway is shut down and bridges are closed?!?
Some boss she's got there, of course the manager stays at home!
She's not going to work and probably this is gonna cost her job.

I was just speaking to my father about this and we both related experiences with this type of employer. It's really amazing how some will so selfishly endanger the live of others in the name of money!

Thank you and thanks all of you guys for the concern, I will get more water, food and candles.
We live in Brooklyn non evacuation- area I was wondering if I should put boards on the windows in case the wind is huge.

Yes, get as many supplies as you can in your area. I would strongly caution against using public transportation as the subways are supposed to be suspended at or by 12:00pm this afternoon. I wouldn't rely on timely bus service either so any place you can get to by foot would be best. If you can, get a few battery powered supplies as well - flashlights and battery powered radios. Even if not necessary in this case, they may be useful if/when other storms hit.

There's something that bothers me about all the "news" on this storm. First of all, it's BIG. Second of all, depending on what you read, they claim either that it will hit NC as a Category 3, or that it will be "only" Category 1.

By the time it hits NYC, it's supposed to be only a tropical storm, and yet some sources say the expected wind speeds would actually make it much higher than a tropical storm. Plus, this is apparently the first time NYC is shutting down all mass transit systems due to a storm.

So, it seems to me that this storm may be a heckuva lot bigger than most of the media is reporting. That would fit with the past Katrina debacle.

Maybe they want people to think that the media is blowing it out of proportion, when it's actually going to be a monster storm. Or maybe they simply don't know because they're trying to predict what will happen with storm models that are based on BS science.

Oh well, "wait and see" I guess...

Agree. I watched some of the news reports and found myself not being sure of what exactly they were trying to convey. Me and a family member came up with the two possibilities you did. My basic strategy as of now is that it's best to be prepared as much as possible for the worst. Be aware and concerned but try not to be overwhelmed by the information and fear. No one can think clearly in that situation. If you find yourself going there, remember to breathe.

Also, Anothermaygar, how close are to you to the ocean?

 

[Mountain Crown]

A friend recently expressed that in lieu of the fact that NYC was embarrassed by the lack of emergency procedures in place when the earthquake was felt that the mayor is in overkill regarding the oncoming storm of Irene.

Hurricanes from the Caribbean have frequently in the past crawled up the east coast to NYC but mostly downgraded to severe storms due to being over land and not having the heat and water to continue the pressure. Even though the gulf stream isn't a factor to send it back out to sea, these mitigating factors still seem real enough to me.

We'll know soon enough.

 

[anothermagyar]

[quote author=Truth Seeker]Also, Anothermaygar, how close are to you to the ocean?[/quote]

Approx.1.78 miles.
Not so far away, but we are not in the evacuation zone. :)

 

[brainwave]

In baltimore we are in the path as well and have stocked up as best as we can.
It seems they are predicting the bulk of the effects to be in NYC. Even with a weakened storm the flooding can be a big problem. Keeping you all in my thoughts as we hunker down here. For those of you in the path of this storm, please take care and check in when you can.

 

[Ennio]

Whether Irene turns out to be really bad or just a major inconvenience I think its a great reminder to us that situations like this may now well be considered the NORM. And this is on top of an earthquake just a few days earlier that was strong enough to make the ground shake before our feet - which was a first for me! This got me thinking about the future - when many more of these types of things will occur with little to no warning - especially when the communications infrastructure breaks down and the PTB decides to take greater advantage of the turmoil.

It's a good idea I think to make lists of things we should have handy in case of emergencies and be as prepared as possible for the future.

Here is a short list, that is by no means exhaustive, that comes from the NOAA website. _http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/prepare/supply_kit.shtml

Water - at least 1 gallon daily per person for 3 to 7 days

Food - at least enough for 3 to 7 days
— non-perishable packaged or canned food / juices
— foods for infants or the elderly
— snack foods
— non-electric can opener
— cooking tools / fuel
— paper plates / plastic utensils

Blankets / Pillows, etc.

Clothing - seasonal / rain gear/ sturdy shoes

First Aid Kit / Medicines / Prescription Drugs

Special Items - for babies and the elderly

Toiletries / Hygiene items / Moisture wipes

Flashlight / Batteries

Radio - Battery operated and NOAA weather radio

Telephones - Fully charged cell phone with extra battery and a traditional (not cordless) telephone set

Cash (with some small bills) and Credit Cards - Banks and ATMs may not be available for extended periods

Keys

Toys, Books and Games

Important documents - in a waterproof container or watertight resealable plastic bag
— insurance, medical records, bank account numbers, Social Security card, etc.

Tools - keep a set with you during the storm

Vehicle fuel tanks filled

Pet care items
— proper identification / immunization records / medications
— ample supply of food and water
— a carrier or cage
— muzzle and leash

I'm sure that there are other good lists and considerations that aren't mentioned here; this above one is a bare bones list. A while back I picked up the Handbook to Practical Disaster Preparedness which I have been leafing through for ideas. Even if you don't get many of the things on the list, at least it will get you thinking about what you may need and what helps in certain situations.

_http://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Practical-Disaster-Preparedness-Family/dp/1453678875

Another disaster that seems to be well on its way is the economic one. When this economy finally does 'collapse' food may be difficult to come by for a while. The Preparedness thread seems like a good place to start.

 

[seek10]

There's something that bothers me about all the "news" on this storm. First of all, it's BIG. Second of all, depending on what you read, they claim either that it will hit NC as a Category 3, or that it will be "only" Category 1.

By the time it hits NYC, it's supposed to be only a tropical storm, and yet some sources say the expected wind speeds would actually make it much higher than a tropical storm. Plus, this is apparently the first time NYC is shutting down all mass transit systems due to a storm.

So, it seems to me that this storm may be a heckuva lot bigger than most of the media is reporting. That would fit with the past Katrina debacle.

Maybe they want people to think that the media is blowing it out of proportion, when it's actually going to be a monster storm. Or maybe they simply don't know because they're trying to predict what will happen with storm models that are based on BS science.

Oh well, "wait and see" I guess...

yes, there is some confusion deliberate or not. weather channel picture ( http://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/article/tropical-depression-nine-storm-hurricane-irene_2011-08-20) shows a line 80mph line below New jersey , but the l NJ ocal station says , by the time it reaches new jersey it is tropical storm , 40-60 mph winds on the coast , but 5 -10 inches of rain across during saturday night. so it looks flooding and amount of rain seems to be main issue.

 

[cholas]

Good point Ennio. I would guess the majority in this affected area are not so well prepared so maybe having double the recommendation in order to share might be a good idea. This year's hurricane season is far from over.

If it gets too out-of-control, some may want to reread Guardian's first post. ;)

Be safe everyone.

 

[truth seeker]

[quote author=Truth Seeker]Also, Anothermaygar, how close are to you to the ocean?

Approx.1.78 miles.
Not so far away, but we are not in the evacuation zone. :)
[/quote]
For what it's worth, I'd remove any things you may have from the windowsills. Just as a general precaution.

 

[pete02]

My friend works in a restaurant in Upper Manhattan and she lives in Queens and her manager wants her to go work!!!
Insane! But where she's gonna go after the subway is shut down and bridges are closed?!?
Some boss she's got there, of course the manager stays at home!

I've still gotta go to work however my boss is my brother so it's not really for money rather just in case the other employees call out. I actually might get stuck doing a double or triple shift depending on what happens. I should be leaving Penn by 6 or so and then I have to drive a coworker home to Queens around 8pm and then back to start work by 11pm. From what I understand the storm is supposed to start late so I'm hopefully I'll have no problems.

There's something that bothers me about all the "news" on this storm. ...

yes, there is some confusion deliberate or not. weather channel picture ( http://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/article/tropical-depression-nine-storm-hurricane-irene_2011-08-20) shows a line 80mph line below New jersey , but the l NJ ocal station says , by the time it reaches new jersey it is tropical storm , 40-60 mph winds on the coast , but 5 -10 inches of rain across during saturday night. so it looks flooding and amount of rain seems to be main issue.

I agree. When I checked the weather channel their diagram showed the winds slowing to about 60mph before hitting NYC and yet the woman on the last report I watched said it could be much stronger then that but also noted that it was a slow moving storm so their main concern was flooding. So the media sure is having conflicting stories all around and I too was wondering what's behind it.