I am furious! The University of Chile approves 2 theses defending pedophilia

[msante]

This post is partly a way of venting the anger I feel, but at the same time it is also intended to share an event that shows the degree of human deterioration in which we are immersed.

Recently a great scandal was generated in Chile because two university thesis were uncovered where the students who had written them defended and legitimized pedophilia. These thesis were written by a student of pedagogy and another who was studying one of these new university careers that give degrees in something related to gender studies. The most alarming aspect of the event is that both thesis were approved by the evaluating academics and consequently both students obtained their degrees. One of them is now qualified to teach children and adolescents.

The man who speaks in the video at the end of the post (Agustín Laje) reads and analyzes fragments of one of the thesis and discusses them (with quite good sense in my opinion). Here are some excerpts for those who do not understand Spanish.

The first thesis (that of the pedagogy student) is entitled "The denied desire of the pedagogue: to be a pedophile". The author's name is Mauricio Ernesto Quiroz Muñoz and he is an LGBT activist. In simple words, according to this quasi-human individual, the denied desire of the pedagogue, the teacher, the professor or the teaching expert, is to be a pedophile.

The author writes in the introduction to his thesis:

"The figure of the pedophile, from a historical and philosophical approach, forces us as pedagogues to rethink our conception of child/adolescent sexuality and our own, thus removing the dogmas of adultcentrism".

Agustín Laje comments: "What he wants to do is clear from the summary, it is to remove the dogmas of "adultcentrism" (neologism coined by the author)... it is necessary to remove dogmas and among this dogmas is the idea that the pedophile is evil, that the pedophile is a monster".

The author continues:

"[...] One of the tasks of philosophy is to destroy the myths, the false beliefs and superficialities of common sense, and perhaps there is no greater myth than that of the pedophile, the mere mention of which evokes panic and indignation. Society says that the pedophile is a monster lurking on the edges of our cities, a criminal, something that should be treated inhumanely. Too bad I don't believe in monsters!".

The first chapter of the thesis is entitled "The pedophile and education: the asexual regime", and begins as follows:

"The school in the 20th century had as its great paradigm the asexual regime of childhood. This regime proclaimed the sexual and ontological purity of the child. Children (it was thought and affirmed) do not know about sex, penis, masturbation and clitoris, let alone anus. There was a certain oblivion of their sexuality. [...] The figure who most radically questioned this dogma in the 20th century was the pedophile. The reason for his questioning is due to the fact that the pedophile, insofar as he feels erotic sexual attraction towards the child, assumes that children are susceptible to being eroticized. [...] Several pedophile and pro-pedophile authors (such as Foucault) were on a mission to show that in addition to being sexual subjects, children could also be subjects of sexual consent with adults, that it is possible for a child to desire to be with an adult and furthermore that this desire is legitimate. [...] Children, for the pedophile, are not voiceless beings. [...] Our society may still be scandalized by talking about sexuality in childhood, there may even be large groups that are opposed to believing that the child has sexuality, but there is no doubt that such belief is no longer absolute, today from different groups it is assumed that the child has sexuality. The pedophile, as a questioner of the asexual regime, is an interesting figure for the pedagogue since he forces us to rethink how we have seen the sexuality of our students. The pedophile will be a key figure for the pedagogue because the pedagogue carries within him the denied pedophile desire".

Another chapter is entitled: "Socrates, the pedophile professor". These are some excerpt from that chapter:

"It is surprising how differently we look at pedophilia today than in previous centuries. It is well known how pederastic practices were something well regarded and promoted by the ancient Greeks. For them pederastic practices were the best way to ensure the good education of children."

What the author writes never makes it clear where he gets it from, because during the whole thesis he does not give a single concrete reference to support it. The intent of this pervert is to say, "Look, the ancient Greeks thought pedophilia was good and pederasty was a great way to convey education. Why are we so archaic? Why do we hold ourselves back? Why don't we look at what the Greek world has to teach us?".

Of course, this abnormal is not aware that even if that were true (which it is not), that the Greeks of 2000 years ago thought pedophilia was good, means absolutely nothing. They also believed other things like for example that slavery was legitimate or that subjugating women was acceptable, but none of this would be enough to consider today that these behaviors are worthy of imitation.

Following this, the author will go into Socrates and talk about his alleged "love affair" with his disciples. But before reading this part, Agustín Laje comments: "Now, there is a serious academic flaw here. There is no linguistic analysis on the subject of love, love is always spoken of as carnal sexual love, but the ancient Greeks had many different words to refer to love. The phenomenon of love is a very complex phenomenon. For example, "eros" is not the same as "philia". "Eros" certainly has a dimension of desire, of passion, a carnal dimension even, although it is not reducible to the sexual either. On the contrary, "philia" has a connotation of friendship, affection, mutual admiration. It is also used to refer to things, for example philosophy is the love of knowledge, the love of wisdom. "Philo" comes from "philia". "Storge" was another word used to denote natural love, filial love, brotherly love, love within the family group. There was also "agape." The latter refers to unconditional, even sacrificial love. [...] So,... here there is a complete absence of a reflection on what love is for the Greeks, and so it is taken as a matter of course that love has to do with sexual relations, that every time we talk about love we are talking about sex".

Then comes a part in which the author states that the young disciples of Socrates sexually desired their teacher (there is no explanation where he gets this from), and that Socrates will repress the sexual aspect of the relationship with his students and exchange this pleasure for the body for the pleasure of knowledge. According to the author Socrates becomes the pedagogue by sexually rejecting the pupil, by denying the sexual type of love that is demanded of him and transforming it into a sapiential type of pleasure.

The author of the thesis writes:

"We tend to understand sexuality as something merely penetrative, coital and genital. For example, losing one's virginity is still a sign of beginning a sexually active life. The truth is different, sexuality can be expressed in an infinite number of ways in human beings, and the genitally restricted body is one more indicator of a hetero-reproductive sexuality. Sexuality is ultimately a matter of pleasure".

And here the author develops his distorted hypothesis (with a very bad logic and without backing up his assertions with anything concrete) trying to conclude that "pleasure" has only one dimension and that this is sexual. Any form of pleasure is at its deepest root sexual in nature. Yes!, pleasure from a good plate of pasta, from watching your children grow up, from listening to a beautiful piece of music, from passing an exam, from achieving an accomplishment in life, ... in short, any form of pleasure reflects a satisfied sexual desire (devious isn't it?).

What the author ultimately intends to establish here is that Socrates' pleasure in teaching his students essentially makes him a pedophile because that means he sexually desires his disciples ( WTF!!!!).

This pseudo-academic eyesore has been approved by the University of Chile and has enabled this creep to stand in front of a class of children or adolescents!!!!

The thesis continues with more twisted interpretations of other authors. Later he takes Rouseau's "Emile" and draws all sorts of whimsical and unsubstantiated conclusions. My impression is that this guy is just projecting his perverse and distorted inner world into this thesis. To be honest I don't find that so outrageous, after all we know that there are many pathological entities among us. What is more worrisome is that a group of academics from the University of Chile APPROVED this absurdity wrongly called thesis. That is to say, this boy made an apology for a crime (one of the most horrendous, by the way) and his professors applauded him.

Let's imagine that I do my final thesis reinvindicating slavery through a pile of poorly assembled and poorly grounded rhetorical garbage. Would it be expected that my professors would approve me just like that? Wouldn't it be alarming if they approve me without questioning not only the morality of my work, but also denouncing it because my work constitutes a crime for advocating something considered by the law (and society) as a heinous crime? Well, this is what happened here, this guy was not only asking for permission to commit a crime once he obtained his teaching degree, but he was trying to set a precedent that legitimizes what to any normal human being is one of the most horrific crimes imaginable.

A true horror and another sign of the times we live in!!!

 

[Uperios]

Hello msante !
I understand your anger. As a father of child preparing for kinder garden, at the time, was being proposed in Romania a law regarding sexual education for children starting from 4 years (with topics like: masturbation, cunnilingus). When my wife heard this where inclined not to send our child to be subjected to this.
In the meantime this was changed from mandatory to optional if parents desire; according to a woman senator who fought against this bill and she used the words: masturbation, cunnilingus in senate , the others senators where outraged at the use of this inappropriate words in that decorum. And her reply that this words are included in the bill and will be taught to young children. At the end of the meeting, she was approached by a senator with some "pull" and ask if that was true (I think now there is a big surprise, unfortunately, that the a majority of senators are not reading the law/bills they are voting) and in the end help to persuade other members not to make the law mandatory (now I am thinking this was a compromise, instead to totally remove it. As other influences want this kind of breakdown of society).

Now all this are helping more people to wake up to realize that something is "fishy" with the society we live. Step by step "they" are showing their cards, our choice to make is if we subscribe to this kind of reality.

 

[msante]

More on this topic. Now I came across a couple of articles (old articles, 2014 and 2012) that say quite a lot about a campaign that is trying to put pedophilia in a completely different light. Under this new way of looking at pedophiles, we who think the sexual abuse of a child is a monstrosity are just heartless brutes who don't understand these "poor suffering souls". This is somewhat the editorial line of this New York Times article:

Opinion | Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime (Published 2014)

The focus of our laws should shift from punishment to treatment.

www.nytimes.com

CAMDEN, N.J. — THINK back to your first childhood crush. Maybe it was a classmate or a friend next door. Most likely, through school and into adulthood, your affections continued to focus on others in your approximate age group. But imagine if they did not.

By some estimates, 1 percent of the male population continues, long after puberty, to find themselves attracted to prepubescent children. These people are living with pedophilia, a sexual attraction to prepubescents that often constitutes a mental illness. Unfortunately, our laws are failing them and, consequently, ignoring opportunities to prevent child abuse.

The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders defines pedophilia as an intense and recurrent sexual interest in prepubescent children, and a disorder if it causes a person “marked distress or interpersonal difficulty” or if the person acts on his interests. Yet our laws ignore pedophilia until after the commission of a sexual offense, emphasizing punishment, not prevention.

Part of this failure stems from the misconception that pedophilia is the same as child molestation. One can live with pedophilia and not act on it. Sites like Virtuous Pedophiles provide support for pedophiles who do not molest children and believe that sex with children is wrong. It is not that these individuals are “inactive” or “nonpracticing” pedophiles, but rather that pedophilia is a status and not an act. In fact, research shows, about half of all child molesters are not sexually attracted to their victims.

A second misconception is that pedophilia is a choice. Recent research, while often limited to sex offenders — because of the stigma of pedophilia — suggests that the disorder may have neurological origins. Pedophilia could result from a failure in the brain to identify which environmental stimuli should provoke a sexual response. M.R.I.s of sex offenders with pedophilia show fewer of the neural pathways known as white matter in their brains. Men with pedophilia are three times more likely to be left-handed or ambidextrous, a finding that strongly suggests a neurological cause. Some findings also suggest that disturbances in neurodevelopment in utero or early childhood increase the risk of pedophilia. Studies have also shown that men with pedophilia have, on average, lower scores on tests of visual-spatial ability and verbal memory.

The Virtuous Pedophiles website is full of testimonials of people who vow never to touch a child and yet live in terror. They must hide their disorder from everyone they know — or risk losing educational and job opportunities, and face the prospect of harassment and even violence. Many feel isolated; some contemplate suicide. The psychologist Jesse Bering, author of “Perv: The Sexual Deviant in All of Us,” writes that people with pedophilia “aren’t living their lives in the closet; they’re eternally hunkered down in a panic room.”

While treatment cannot eliminate a pedophile’s sexual interests, a combination of cognitive-behavioral therapy and medication can help him to manage urges and avoid committing crimes.

But the reason we don’t know enough about effective treatment is because research has usually been limited to those who have committed crimes.

Our current law is inconsistent and irrational. For example, federal law and 20 states allow courts to issue a civil order committing a sex offender, particularly one with a diagnosis of pedophilia, to a mental health facility immediately after the completion of his sentence — under standards that are much more lax than for ordinary “civil commitment” for people with mental illness. And yet, when it comes to public policies that might help people with pedophilia to come forward and seek treatment before they offend, the law omits pedophilia from protection.

The Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 prohibit discrimination against otherwise qualified individuals with mental disabilities, in areas such as employment, education and medical care. Congress, however, explicitly excluded pedophilia from protection under these two crucial laws.

It’s time to revisit these categorical exclusions. Without legal protection, a pedophile cannot risk seeking treatment or disclosing his status to anyone for support. He could lose his job, and future job prospects, if he is seen at a group-therapy session, asks for a reasonable accommodation to take medication or see a psychiatrist, or requests a limit in his interaction with children. Isolating individuals from appropriate employment and treatment only increases their risk of committing a crime.

There’s no question that the extension of civil rights protections to people with pedophilia must be weighed against the health and safety needs of others, especially kids. It stands to reason that a pedophile should not be hired as a grade-school teacher. But both the A.D.A. and the Rehabilitation Act contain exemptions for people who are “not otherwise qualified” for a job or who pose “a direct threat to the health and safety of others” that can’t be eliminated by a reasonable accommodation. (This is why employers don’t have to hire blind bus drivers or mentally unstable security guards.)

The direct-threat analysis rejects the idea that employers can rely on generalizations; they must assess the specific case and rely on evidence, not presuppositions. Those who worry that employers would be compelled to hire dangerous pedophiles should look to H.I.V. case law, where for years courts were highly conservative, erring on the side of finding a direct threat, even into the late 1990s, when medical authorities were in agreement that people with H.I.V. could work safely in, for example, food services.

Removing the pedophilia exclusion would not undermine criminal justice or its role in responding to child abuse. It would not make it easier, for example, for someone accused of child molestation to plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

A pedophile should be held responsible for his conduct — but not for the underlying attraction. Arguing for the rights of scorned and misunderstood groups is never popular, particularly when they are associated with real harm. But the fact that pedophilia is so despised is precisely why our responses to it, in criminal justice and mental health, have been so inconsistent and counterproductive. Acknowledging that pedophiles have a mental disorder, and removing the obstacles to their coming forward and seeking help, is not only the right thing to do, but it would also advance efforts to protect children from harm.

There is some moderation in this article, which tries to draw a line between the pedophile who commits abuse and the one who does not. It does not deny that the sexual abuse of a minor is a crime, but puts all the emphasis on humanizing the figure of the pedophile trying to convince us that being sexually attracted to children, after all, is not so terrible.

Then there is this article from CNN where, following a similar editorial line, it tries to increase sympathy for the pedophile. It basically elevates them to the status of victims and develops a narrative that tends to make us forget that pedophiles are generally sexual predators of the worst kind. You can read:

"The science suggests that they are people who, through no fault of their own, were born with a sex drive that they must continuously resist, without exception, throughout their entire lives. Little if any assistance is ever available for them. [...] Having encountered thousands of cases, it is my experience that the pedophiles who do go on to become actual child molesters do so when they feel the most desperate. Yet, much of what society does has been to increase rather than decrease their desperation."

In other words, we are to blame for driving these "poor victims" to commit these atrocious acts.

As a side thought, I find it irritating and hilarious at the same time that CNN has no trouble jumping on the gender ideology bandwagon where biology basically does not exist and has no relevant influence on our sexual identity. But curiously when it comes to pedophilia it seems that biology is very important:

"Although nonbiological features may yet turn up to be relevant, it is difficult, if not impossible, to explain the research findings without there being a strong role of biology. [...] If it is the brain’s wiring that ultimately determines who will go on to develop pedophilia, can we detect it early enough to interrupt the process? Until we uncover more information, we will do more good by making it easier for pedophiles to come in for help rather than force them into solitary secrecy."

Pathetic!!

 

[mkrnhr]

I understand the anger. That it comes from Universidad de Chile is no surprise, it's a wretched leftist hive of scum and villainy. Everything goes there from the support for communism, covid fascism, vegetarism, gender theories, and of course support for pedophilia as a logical consequence. As noted before, if there are no biological differences between a male and a female, there are less differences between an adult and a child. Their minds are distorted beyond repair, and nothing good can come from such places.

 

[gottathink]

T

More on this topic. Now I came across a couple of articles (old articles, 2014 and 2012) that say quite a lot about a campaign that is trying to put pedophilia in a completely different light. Under this new way of looking at pedophiles, we who think the sexual abuse of a child is a monstrosity are just heartless brutes who don't understand these "poor suffering souls". This is somewhat the editorial line of this New York Times article:



There is some moderation in this article, which tries to draw a line between the pedophile who commits abuse and the one who does not. It does not deny that the sexual abuse of a minor is a crime, but puts all the emphasis on humanizing the figure of the pedophile trying to convince us that being sexually attracted to children, after all, is not so terrible.

Then there is this article from CNN where, following a similar editorial line, it tries to increase sympathy for the pedophile. It basically elevates them to the status of victims and develops a narrative that tends to make us forget that pedophiles are generally sexual predators of the worst kind. You can read:



In other words, we are to blame for driving these "poor victims" to commit these atrocious acts.

As a side thought, I find it irritating and hilarious at the same time that CNN has no trouble jumping on the gender ideology bandwagon where biology basically does not exist and has no relevant influence on our sexual identity. But curiously when it comes to pedophilia it seems that biology is very important:



Pathetic!!

It is absurd that the argument defending paedophiles is that they are biologically programmed to be ‘minor attracted’ through being born with a particular brain wiring. We know the brain has phenomenal plasticity in its wiring. The only really biologically different brains are those of psychopaths. It’s clear who the defence is being constructed for.

Edit: so the conclusion I can draw from this is that it is completely natural for psychopaths to sexually abuse children and society is being conditioned to just accept it along with all their other nefarious activities.

 

[Uperios]

Regarding pedophilia and child trafficking, from Redacted.
Mel Gibson to release documentary with the help of former FBI agent Tim Ballard (who is working to stop this networks).
Also the movie which I waiting is "Sound of freedom" with Jim Caviezel (based on Ballards' work), but his film is being constantly "delayed" most probably bu TPB.

BOMBSHELL! Mel Gibson about to EXPOSE all of them

www.bitchute.com

 

[The Mechanic]

Up on sott: Pedo U: University of Chile Approves 2 Theses Defending Pedophilia -- Sott.net

 

[IronFloyd]

I live in Chile and the truth is that I have not been able to avoid the consternation that all this is causing me, especially with a nightmarish situation that happened a few days ago in the south of the country, where a group of doctors and psychologists, literally raped a group of fifth grade children from a low-income school, under the pretext of giving them a "medical examination" and "psychological evaluation" to determine the sexual orientation of the children.

The concrete thing is that the children ended up crying with "exams" that consisted of showing them erotic/pornographic films and touching their genitals, asking them if they felt heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian.

Here the mass media in general has not been so widespread the issue, because as they know that it is generating a lot of anger in many people, tends to lower the profile of the matter by speaking of "alleged abuses", "Annoyance generated a sex talk in the framework of a health operation", somehow insinuating that both children and parents who are also of a low social level, could be lying or exaggerating.

This video doesn't have double interpretations because it's the recording that made one of parents, of the confrontation with the psychologist in charge of the "operative".

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7242121119426415877

 

[mkrnhr]

I don't watch the news in Chile but I get a glimpse of it when I pass through a TV set at the entrance of the building. The media and the wealthy intelligentsia are positively "progressive" and yesterday it was all about some British trans celebrity or whatever nonsense. This year's "Pride" flags are relatively less prominent in the streets and shops then last year, maybe because of the children's sexual abuse in Talcahuano (and others) but they're still there to see. These are the leftists who want a new constitution where children are no more under the protection of their parents, but the property of the state to do whatever psychopaths want to do with them under the legal protection of the law.
Not surprised the worst offenders would be teachers, doctors, and psychologists.

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

I don't watch the news in Chile but I get a glimpse of it when I pass through a TV set at the entrance of the building. The media and the wealthy intelligentsia are positively "progressive" and yesterday it was all about some British trans celebrity or whatever nonsense. This year's "Pride" flags are relatively less prominent in the streets and shops then last year, maybe because of the children's sexual abuse in Talcahuano (and others) but they're still there to see. These are the leftists who want a new constitution where children are no more under the protection of their parents, but the property of the state to do whatever psychopaths want to do with them under the legal protection of the law.

I don't watch television either... but I know that to this event we must add another related controversy that arose almost at the same time, it is about the childhood education guides with more and more sexual content and LGBT+ themes, basically the same thing that has been given in European countries, for example, but in Chile it has been done in a more timid way due to a population that is still mostly conservative, which contrasts with sectors of the elite of woke ideology that have flourished for some time... this of the guides It comes more or less from the Piñera government, but now it has come out again due to this:
LESBIANS, GAYS,
BISEXUAL, TRANS AND
INTERSEX
in the Chilean educational system (MONO-367.pdf)

It is sad to see how to a certain extent the country is being used as a laboratory, you know we are one of the two most vaccinated in the world together with Israel, there is the Woke ideology (with its rejected constitution of the same nature) and I would dare to perhaps add the issue of bird flu and the enormous rise in egg prices.

 

[mkrnhr]

It is sad to see how to a certain extent the country is being used as a laboratory, you know we are one of the two most vaccinated in the world together with Israel, there is the Woke ideology (with its rejected constitution of the same nature) and I would dare to perhaps add the issue of bird flu and the enormous rise in egg prices.

It is a laboratory. It is mostly controlled by a certain country in the northern part of the continent. The previous president was a closet leftist and the actual one and overt one, nothing changed. The events in 2019 were to sabotage commercial relationships with Asia and the recent "nationalization" of Lithium resources is to secure the monopolistic access of the northern big brother. I still see people wearing masks in the streets and even in their cars, which shows how influenced people are to globalist propaganda. The local "elites" have a lot of disdain towards the populace, which is why they push for collectivism and obedience in every occasion. Whenever there is a new woke buzzword in the US, you can be sure that it's immediately translated into Spanish and propagated like wild fire here. In the end, the mammones descriptive is not far from the truth.

 

[Navigator]

To add a bit more into this, the current Chilean president, Boric, a leftist, came out of the Universidad de Chile and was the leader of the students while there.

 

[mkrnhr]

To add a bit more into this, the current Chilean president, Boric, a leftist, came out of the Universidad de Chile and was the leader of the students while there.

Not surprising. Anyone with some experience with student organizations comes to understand that these "student leaders" are selected (promising pathology?) and groomed by political powers and others from behind the scenes. I've heard that many in the current cabinet have been formed by the WEF and other organisms, which I haven't investigated to any degree, but even if it weren't the case, they're following the script very well.

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

To add a bit more into this, the current Chilean president, Boric, a leftist, came out of the Universidad de Chile and was the leader of the students while there.

And part of his current cabinet of ministers were his colleagues from the university and the movement... Boric was elected despite not being liked by a large part of the people, because there was a climate of anger due to the increase in the cost of life and, more importantly, , was perceived as the least bad option, his main opponent José Kast was accused of being a Nazi and a misogynist due to certain connections, it does not help that he is a far-right conservative, initial ideas such as dissolving and merging the women's ministry with another or give more power to the police to be able to arrest people on their private property during states of emergency... all this earned him a broad defeat, now that if his party achieved a large majority among the members who ran to draft the new constitution, which is why he will probably be elected in the next presidential elections.

 

[mkrnhr]

which is why he will probably be elected in the next presidential elections.

from what I understand, the election of the consejales (I don't know what it means) has taken everybody by surprise. I would say it will teach the government a lesson in imposing obligatory elections (an authoritarian move). My prediction is that if the US regime doesn't like him or he doesn't obey them like Pinata and Boricco, he will not be elected.