I have to take a 'psychological employment profile test...

Buddy said:
How To Pass a Psychological Employment Profile Test
http://www.sott.net/article/242040-US-How-To-Pass-a-Psychological-Employment-Profile-Test

...and a couple more you might find worth reading:

Faking It: Can Job Applicants 'Outsmart' Personality Tests?
_http://www.performanceprograms.com/surveys/Can_Applicants_Outsmart_Personality_Tests.html

4 Ways to Beat a Personality Test
_http://news.dice.com/2012/11/06/4-ways-beat-personality-test/

Interesting links. The articles discuss how checking for fakers is a big thing. That rating too high on a social desirability scale is often viewed as evidence of a faker; someone lying to be better perceived. They also talk about how test results are viewed differently depending on the type of company you are applying for. So it really depends on what test you are taking and the underlying formula behind it, and who is interpreting those results. I personally think the last 2 are much better than the first. In the first, it sounds like one guys opinion on the matter. The 2nd actually quotes some of the psychologists behind the studies, and the 3rd at least lists the things to watch out for in an easy to understand list.

It has been a few years since I have taken one, but as best as I can remember, I always passed (was accepted for interviews). From the ones I took, the main thing they were looking for was consistency, which runs contrary to the point of the author in the first article. I think he "over-thinks" it actually. After a couple of decades working in corporate America, I don't believe that your average employer (or their hiring manger or consultant) are that wise or complicated to try to screen out behavior like that. Maybe at the FBI/CIA/ABC level they are, but I doubt your average retailer is considering it like that. For example the author in the first article states:

The truth is, these tests which try to determine whether a person is likely to steal is more of an intelligence test than anything else. Here's an example of some questions asked (yes/no questions):

1. Have you ever known anyone who has stolen from an employer and got away with it?
2. If someone stole something from an employer and you were aware of it, would you report them?

Think about this. If you answer yes to the first question and yes to the second, then you are a liar...right? No, this is actually the correct answer. What they're looking for is whether or not you are analyzing the questions (as you go along) or not, not so much how you answer the questions. If you've known someone who stole and got away with it, then you would obviously not report them because otherwise, they wouldn't have gotten away with it! Right?

You see, they are looking for your ability to notice things like that in the whole of the test. If you remember question to question what your answers are, then you are more likely to let a previous answer to affect following answers - this demonstrates your propensity to lie, cheat or steal.

I have to disagree, especially after reading those other two articles. The two main things they are looking for is consistency to weed out fakers (liars), which could be people who score too highly along the social desirability scale. But that is just my limited experience. Ultimately I think like with many things, the answer as to how to respond to tests like this is "it depends". Depends on the type of company you are applying at, their level of sophistication, what test they use, what type of person the "decision maker" is looking for, etc. There are a few clearly wrong answers to these tests, without any clear right answers that apply on a broad scale.
 
Tristan said:
I have also to pass a psychological test for a job, here it is said that it is better to respond with "extreme answers" in general. I do not know if someone could provide more information about since I urge to find an employment.

I feel a bit anxious for that reason but maybe someone would suggest me a paper about this subject

Thanx

Can't offer a paper on the subject, but can offer a small advice. If you want to improve your chances of passing the test, spend some time getting to know the potential company and the offered job. Maybe look for some info on the web, or ask someone who knows. And then, try to "put yourself in the shoes" of a man perfect for a job, and when answering the test, try to answer from this perspective. In any case, all employers in general usually look for people who are consistent, responsible, and willing to work hard even if the job may become a boring routine after a while. They also like those who will be very upset if they won't get the job, because it shows how much a person wants it. But maybe in your country it's different. fwiw. And good luck!
 
Thank u for your advices, tomorrow I'm going to re-read the entire thread. I suppose you're right Keit by putting in their shoes is the best way to answer the questions. In fact, is an american company though located in Spain
;) the name of the psy-test is ProfileXT BTW
 
ignis.intimus said:
It has been a few years since I have taken one, but as best as I can remember, I always passed (was accepted for interviews). From the ones I took, the main thing they were looking for was consistency, which runs contrary to the point of the author in the first article. I think he "over-thinks" it actually. After a couple of decades working in corporate America, I don't believe that your average employer (or their hiring manger or consultant) are that wise or complicated to try to screen out behavior like that. Maybe at the FBI/CIA/ABC level they are, but I doubt your average retailer is considering it like that. For example the author in the first article states:

The truth is, these tests which try to determine whether a person is likely to steal is more of an intelligence test than anything else. Here's an example of some questions asked (yes/no questions):

1. Have you ever known anyone who has stolen from an employer and got away with it?
2. If someone stole something from an employer and you were aware of it, would you report them?

Think about this. If you answer yes to the first question and yes to the second, then you are a liar...right? No, this is actually the correct answer. What they're looking for is whether or not you are analyzing the questions (as you go along) or not, not so much how you answer the questions. If you've known someone who stole and got away with it, then you would obviously not report them because otherwise, they wouldn't have gotten away with it! Right?

You see, they are looking for your ability to notice things like that in the whole of the test. If you remember question to question what your answers are, then you are more likely to let a previous answer to affect following answers - this demonstrates your propensity to lie, cheat or steal.

I have to disagree, especially after reading those other two articles. The two main things they are looking for is consistency to weed out fakers (liars), which could be people who score too highly along the social desirability scale. But that is just my limited experience. Ultimately I think like with many things, the answer as to how to respond to tests like this is "it depends". Depends on the type of company you are applying at, their level of sophistication, what test they use, what type of person the "decision maker" is looking for, etc. There are a few clearly wrong answers to these tests, without any clear right answers that apply on a broad scale.

Keit said:
Tristan said:
I have also to pass a psychological test for a job, here it is said that it is better to respond with "extreme answers" in general. I do not know if someone could provide more information about since I urge to find an employment.

I feel a bit anxious for that reason but maybe someone would suggest me a paper about this subject

Thanx

Can't offer a paper on the subject, but can offer a small advice. If you want to improve your chances of passing the test, spend some time getting to know the potential company and the offered job. Maybe look for some info on the web, or ask someone who knows. And then, try to "put yourself in the shoes" of a man perfect for a job, and when answering the test, try to answer from this perspective. In any case, all employers in general usually look for people who are consistent, responsible, and willing to work hard even if the job may become a boring routine after a while. They also like those who will be very upset if they won't get the job, because it shows how much a person wants it. But maybe in your country it's different. fwiw. And good luck!
My bold.

Some time has passed, and I tend to agree with these posts. I had kind of a nagging feeling after that experience that I might have cheated myself by considering the advice of that first article too seriously. I'm not sure if I would have gotten the job by being more natural about it, but the worst that could happen is that I'd get the same result, and I think I would have had more confidence since I would not be as worried about living up to the image I was trying to create. In short, that article played into my paranoia at the time. Next time I apply for a job like this I will probably just be honest and try to present a good image I feel I can live up to.
 
Over the years, I've taken several of these psychological assessment tests when applying for jobs at different companies.
I remember a long time ago applying for a job with Wal-Mart and their test had about 200 questions on it. Yikes!
What I noticed these tests have in common is that they will ask you the same thing in various ways to see if you'll answer subsequent questions differently than you answered the question the first time they asked it.

Retail businesses are typically, imo, looking to hire people who are honest, and are concerned about reducing employee theft. Some companies seem even more concerned with surveillance of their own staff as opposed to their customers. I can think of two companies I've worked for, to which the above applies.

So, on questions where they ask you if you'd steal or report someone else for stealing, for example, answering those questions pertaining to theft/stealing, knowing the company is likely trying to weed out potential thieves, your best answer, imo, is no, you don't steal ( and hopefully you don't) and to say yes, you'd report another employee if you saw or knew they had stolen merchandise.
They don't want to hire people who will cover for other employees who are stealing from the company. And yes, we live in a snitch culture in this society, and it's pretty disgusting how this can play out in society, but the bottom line here is, stealing from your employer is wrong, so the only 'right' answer to questions about stealing on an assessment, imo, would be 'no, you don't steal and would report someone else for doing it.'

I think they also try to evaluate from your responses on these tests whether or not you're industrious and motivated to work or whether you're a lazy person. If you see questions regarding 'helping other workers if you've finished all your own work', you should answer with a 'Yes, you would,' or something to that effect.

They're basically looking for little worker bees that can perform well under changing, often stressful conditions, and perform their jobs with a smiling face, without questioning their authority, and in an honest way. They expect much, yes, and tend to compensate the worker with not-so-much, but these are hard times and people need jobs and they know it. Employers can afford to be very selective these days, in my opinion, and so it does not serve an applicant well if the applicant responds to questions with answers that suggest to an employer: "No, I won't help others if I'm done with all my own work," or "No, I wouldn't report my co-worker if I knew they stole merchandise,' etc.

Why would they want you if you tell them you'd lie to cover for someone else's crime, even if you personally don't steal? To the potential employer, you still look dishonest because you wouldn't report this, see?

Fwiw, I've always dreaded these psychological assessment tests too, because the applications themselves are generally lengthy enough in and of themselves. The additional requirement of 'test taking' to ascertain ( at least to a degree) what kind of person you are ( character) only adds stress and pressure to an already stressful situation, and makes the job application process even more time-consuming.

It's also been my experience that many employers will not even consider you for a position if you tell them you smoke cigarettes. It's a discriminatory practice, imo, regarding the majority of positions. Some places, it's just unsafe to smoke at work ( like when you're dealing with oxygen tanks or working with gas pumps, for example.)

The best thing I can suggest is: Answer assessment questions honestly, using common sense, and read the questions from the employer's perspective. Think about what you'd want to see if roles were reversed and you were the employer, and give the kind of consistent answers you'd want to see on such a test from an applicant. I think this will help you.

The service/retail industry, for example, uses these assessment tests quite a bit. This industry seems to be looking for people who can not only work hard, exhibit good attendance, and be nice to customers, but they also want people who are flexible, adaptable, stress-tolerant, and trustworthy - people of good character and integrity. I guess the above could apply to what any company might appreciate in an applicant.

Let me also say this: if you have to take one of these assessment tests, don't panic. I think they expect people to try to paint themselves in the best light when taking these tests. If you answer questions inconsistently, they will pick up on that right away. Remember,they're gonna ask you questions that are very similar in wording, but that differ just a bit - to see how consistent you are in your responses.

And then remind yourself, as I've had to do: The worst thing that will happen is that you won't get hired at this particular workplace, but more than likely, imo, you will be hired, especially if you can exhibit honesty in your responses and then present yourself well at the interview.

That's how I've done it over the years, by being straight-up on these tests, and I can't think of a time I didn't get the job after taking the test.

In the case of that position with Wal-Mart many years ago, the sheer length of their test put me off and I never even bothered to apply. I just found another employer where the application process didn't take till the end of time.

I hope at least some of this helps, and wish you much success in your job search.
 
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