kalibex
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nicklebleu said:Arwenn said:Woodsman said:<snip>
One such is that, "When your free choice puts others at risk, you are no longer allowed that choice." (Often seen with ALL CAPS placed on various wordings.)
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Yes but if they're vaccinated they can't possibly be at risk, because that's what the vaccine is supposed to do!
Can these people not see that by using that argument they are by default admitting that vaccination does not give them immunity, so why the hell do it? It's like scoring a goal for the other team but blaming the other team for it. Does my head in.
Same here! That's the argument of "herd immunity" - so if you want to be part of the herd, just go and vaccinate yourself. And leave the others alone!
Actually, just to clarify: My understanding of the 'herd immunity' argument is that certain vulnerable members of society who cannot be vaccinated - very young babies, immunocompromised adults, etc. - are the ones who are protected by 'herd immunity' (ie, they are safer that there isn't a current outbreak of various diseases) - not the already-vaccinated public.
(Of course, that only works if vaccinations actually do work - which there isn't certainty about anymore - and, the fact that certain immunocompromosed people can't be safely vaccinated...kind of tells you something else about the possible effects of vaccinations, huh?)