Ibogan

[kries]

Does ibogan helps in decalcification of the pineal gland ?

 

[Gawan]

Hi kries,

could you give some background information what ibogan is about and have you some data that it could decalcify the pineal gland for example?

 

[obyvatel]

The topic of ibogaine has been referred to here
Graham Hancock
and
Ibogaine for emotional trauma/PTSD

Summary: this forum does not condone the use of illegal/hallucinogenic substances for spiritual or emotional development purposes.

 

[Laura]

jsf, I've removed your post for obvious reasons.

A note: it has been demonstrated in a number of scientific trials that psychedelic mushrooms can break the cycle of depression. It is possible that the same is true for ibogaine. However, there is a big difference between using a substance to correct a pathological condition and thinking that it can be used to advance one spiritually or esoterically.

Obviously, one needs to be at least at the level of the obyvatel in order to pursue esoteric work and a person who is psychologically sick cannot do so. In such an instance, perhaps the use of psychotropic substances can restore balance. But they cannot advance one spiritually and anyone who thinks so is lunch because there is NO FREE LUNCH.

And, jsf, this is a warning to you... you are on thin ice.

 

[kries]

I did not know that ibogan is illegal. Somewhere I read about the positive impact on the decalcification of the pineal gland, and it caught my attention. Anyway thank you.

 

[kries]

I thought it was something like melatonin.

 

[Laura]

I did not know that ibogan is illegal. Somewhere I read about the positive impact on the decalcification of the pineal gland, and it caught my attention. Anyway thank you.

If you want to de-calcify anything in the body, you have to change your diet. Check out our ketogenic diet thread. If anything will do it, that will.

 

[jsf]

jsf, I've removed your post for obvious reasons.

No problem, my post was only for information purpose, I'm not pushing in any way mushroom therapy. I've seen again and again the big problems it can causes, and the potential benefits are not worth the risk. I remember Mark Hedsel saying that these kinds of things can delay your progress for several incarnations.
So obviously yes, no free lunch!

 

[Jacques]

Does ibogan helps in decalcification of the pineal gland ?

I would suggest to read the new book written by Nora Gedgaudas "RETHINKING FATIGUE: What Your Adrenals Are Really Telling You And What You Can Do About It".

Here's a couple of extracts:

There’s more than one way to disturb your circadian rhythm, and one of the most common and least recognized is calcification of the pineal gland, the brain structure that produces melatonin. Fluoride is a major culprit.

The pineal gland is a pea-sized, pine-cone-shaped gland located deep within the brain where the two brain hemispheres join. Unlike the rest of the brain, though, it is not protected by the blood-brain barrier, which makes it especially vulnerable to dietary fluoride exposure.

More than a decade ago, a researcher at the University of Surrey in the United Kingdom found that fluoride deposits in the pineal gland accumulate with age and are associated with gland calcification. Eleven aged cadavers were dissected and their pineal glands were examined. The author of the study, Jennifer Luke, wrote: “There was a positive correlation between pineal fluoride and pineal calcium (r = 0.73, p < 0.02), but no correlation between pineal fluoride and bone fluoride. By old age, the pineal gland has readily accumulated fluoride and its fluoride-to-calcium ratio is higher than bone.” Scary.

Luke suggested that the pineal calcification could be an indicator of decreased melatonin production and could become an indicator for circadian rhythm vulnerability and useful for assessing the need for melatonin replacement therapy. In fact, Luke and her co-authors thought that the degree of pineal calcification could be a better indicator of melatonin deficiency than measuring the amount of melatonin circulating in the blood. Furthermore, she said, “a decrease of melatonin production ... might lead to a disturbed circadian rhythmicity in the sleep-wake cycle, with the principal symptom being daytime tiredness.”

She reported another disturbing finding: “Physiologic pineal calcification is more common in children than previously reported.”

Other researchers have found evidence that fluoride-induced pineal calcification is a risk factor for schizophrenia, Alzheimer’s disease, dementia, axial dyskinesia, stroke, Parkinson’s disease, tardive dyskinesia, Tourette’s syndrome, insomnia, and melatonin circadian dysregulation.

It is important to be sure you are getting your vitamin D along with a relative balance of other critical cofactors, such as vitamin A (retinol) and vitamin K2. This can help balance vitamin D and its effects in the body and help avoid problematic nutrient imbalances. With all the hot press and hype concerning the near-miraculous benefits of vitamin D, an all-too-commonly overlooked fact is that no nutrient functions in a vacuum away from the need for other nutrients. Too much of one nutrient can create serious imbalance with others, and this may cause very real problems. As I pointed out in Primal Body, Primal Mind, for every receptor for vitamin D on every cell there are at least two receptors for vitamin A (in the form of retinol – not beta carotene!). Liver is the best source for this critical fat-soluble nutrient, but supplementing with superfoods such as fermented cod liver oil can do the job, too.

Magnesium deficiency can additionally and very commonly lead to undesirable calcium imbalances. We are all far more likely to be deficient in magnesium than in calcium, and restoring healthy magnesium levels is critical for managing appropriate calcification of things in your body that are meant to be calcified and minimizing the calcification of things that were not meant to be calcified.

Vitamin K2 regulates calcification. Deficiencies in vitamin K2 (all too common nowadays due to the fact that most people fail to eat enough organ meats) can readily lead to calcification of soft tissues and inadequate calcium in the places where it most belongs – in your bones and teeth! In fact, poor vitamin K2 levels can additionally make you prone to poor bone health and dental caries, as well as harden your arteries and calcify your heart muscle. Add these dietary fat-soluble nutrient imbalances to fluoride exposure, and you find your pineal gland (and God knows what else) ensconced over time in a delightful calcium-rich crust. Trust me, you don’t want this.

SO HOW DOES ONE GO ABOUT REVERSING OR AVOIDING PINEAL CALCIFICATION?
I recommend:
Avoiding all sources of fluoride
Avoiding supplements with any form of calcium – almost no one needs this!
Maintaining healthy levels of vitamin D3, together with its critical cofactors, vitamins A (retinol) and K2
Taking magnesium L-threonate, which has specificity for the brain and by maintaining healthy intracellular levels of magnesium elsewhere in the body
Trying IV magnesium as part of a Myers’ cocktail
Taking vitamin K2 (natural dietary MK-4 and supplemental/dietary MK-7) and/or adding more organ meats plus 100 percent pastured raw butter. Or, if you have a dairy sensitivity, consider Pure Indian Foods Grass-Fed Organic Cultured Ghee. This cultured ghee product is certified by the manufacturer as being uniquely free of dairy proteins, a status that is in the process of being independently confirmed. Stay tuned.

You can buy the book here: http://www.amazon.com/RETHINKING-FATIGUE-Adrenals-Really-Telling-ebook/dp/B00LGDETD4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1416759961&sr=8-1&keywords=rethinking+fatigue

And of course, if you have taken too much fluoride, you have to get rid of it as soon as possible.

 

[Gaby]

Here is another useful one:

The spice that prevents fluoride from destroying your brain
http://www.sott.net/article/279652-The-spice-that-prevents-fluoride-from-destroying-your-brain

I was talking to a radiologist not too long ago about this very same subject. I was revising several CT scans with her and was surprised by the incidence of pineal gland calcification: 10 out of 10 of elderly people, but quite some very young people as well. The water is fluoridated where I live. The radiologist told me that it is so incredibly common that she didn't reported anymore. For her it was a "normal finding". It is NOT normal!!

 

[kries]

I got more than I asked for, thank you.

 

[Medulin]

Here is another useful one:

The spice that prevents fluoride from destroying your brain
http://www.sott.net/article/279652-The-spice-that-prevents-fluoride-from-destroying-your-brain

I was talking to a radiologist not too long ago about this very same subject. I was revising several CT scans with her and was surprised by the incidence of pineal gland calcification: 10 out of 10 of elderly people, but quite some very young people as well. The water is fluoridated where I live. The radiologist told me that it is so incredibly common that she didn't reported anymore. For her it was a "normal finding". It is NOT normal!!

Thank God, melatonin is OTC drug here in Croatia (as well as in the USA),
but it can be difficult to get in many countries because it's a prescription drug... :/

 

[Gaby]

Thank God, melatonin is OTC drug here in Croatia (as well as in the USA),
but it can be difficult to get in many countries because it's a prescription drug... :/

In those cases, buying through ebay.com and choosing the options which have the "prized seller" seal might be a way to get around it. "Prized sellers" have a more reliable way of shipping their stuff that might bypass customs because getting their packaged delivered is the priority. I got this way progesterone cream and DMSO, both forbidden where I live. The first time I tried to buy progesterone cream, it got refused at the border by the "Pharmacology Vigilance" department.

Indeed, the Inquisition is very active these days!

 

[Carl]

Thank God, melatonin is OTC drug here in Croatia (as well as in the USA),
but it can be difficult to get in many countries because it's a prescription drug... :/

In those cases, buying through ebay.com and choosing the options which have the "prized seller" seal might be a way to get around it. "Prized sellers" have a more reliable way of shipping their stuff that might bypass customs because getting their packaged delivered is the priority. I got this way progesterone cream and DMSO, both forbidden where I live. The first time I tried to buy progesterone cream, it got refused at the border by the "Pharmacology Vigilance" department.

Indeed, the Inquisition is very active these days!

Oh wow, that is something right out of a dystopian novel!

There is also a good site that I found when getting hydrocortisone (only available on prescription here). They have a decent selection of pharmaceuticals and supplements, although no melatonin : _http://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/