ICE agent fatally shoots protester in Minneapolis: Self-defense or police brutality?

[SummerLite]

I can't really say anything more helpful. Perhaps other than, beyond politics, it's worth remembering back to what this forum used to be, which was about something called "the Work". There were books and stuff that all related to it and it was all about you know, coming to terms with ourselves as individuals and hopefully building something that had a bit of realness to it. There are loads of books that used to be recommended - they are rarely recommended nowadays though. I think you'd benefit from looking into the Work.

It appears to me your strong beliefs in how things REALLY are means that I have lost touch with reality since I'm at odds with your understanding. In thinking about this whole conversation it occurs to me its the sign of mature adults who can disagree with each other on important topics but allow for differences and respect each other even though they disagree. At least you tried to be a little considerate by not coming right out and saying "your delusional" . It's not a all encompassing reflection on ones entire life because they hold a particular view on a certain subject. Isn't that obvious? You needn't clue me in on "The Work". I was doing that way before coming here and I have read the recommended books and continue to work on myself, its just a way of life for me. It's one reason why I joined this group. Look, people don't always agree and see things the same way, its just a fact. Perhaps that old saying "we agree to disagree" is appropriate. I'd say the majority here see the Trump issue pretty much the same way. It would have been so much easier to say nothing since I know this. To me this is a part of my work. To face my fears of ridicule when so many are against me. To have the courage to speak when others want you to be silent or at least change your mind. Speaking my mind has so often met with objection so I learned to remain silent. Thanks for the opportunity to work on myself. I don't wish to be involved in a battle of minds. Having a different perspective then the majority has always been a part of my life. You all disagree with me, ok, I accept that. Carry on.

Will all this be filtered into AI?

 

[A Jay]

Your words and views are the expression of hate expressed by people around the world and not new to me. My objective as well as others is to turn that around. Americans who know are appalled with how our country was used and stolen. Once its usefulness was spent destruction is next. The Trump admin gives a chance to turn this around. Of course you don't agree but see him only as another puppet. We'll see. But the fight for the American people continues. Will Trump accomplish some things or will it be to much? It's not a forgone conclusion he's just a puppet, a lot think so, a lot don't. We'll see.

This is desperate self-delusion. You shouldn't have identified with Trump and MAGA as they were only ever going to be a horse and pony show.

Yes, Trump probably is doing his best but he's a fool on a fool's errand. He is nothing and the Swamp is all. The sooner you can let go of your identification with Trump and MAGA, the better off you will be.

The first assessment of the school bombing was it was an Iran mistake and then the inevitable spin. The truth is always the first casualty of war. There is a tremendous amount of BS being put out now surrounding this war. I am extremely cautious in who I listen to and even that can be lies. This is a opportunity the globalists can't ignore to spin sentiment against Trump and a populist movement. It was easy to see coming.

More self-delusion.

I understand it's hard for you to accept, but we bombed those kids. It wasn't Israel. It wasn't Iran. It was the U.S. Navy. You can be upset about it and you can ask who gave those coordinates and why, but there is no escaping the fact that it was the U.S. Navy that pressed the big red button that sent the missile that blew the school to pieces. Twice.

What I've expressed here isn't my perspective alone but millions as well.

Millions of fools.

The objective for me and others is to remove the power from the criminal and globalists infiltration of the country which others here are so enraged by. Trump has stepped into that position at the most difficult, tumultuous, and dangerous time. It won't be pretty. What comes in the years to come will possibly go in a direction where the most egregious offenses will have been removed and a more sane and just country will continue on without the demons reigning control over the rest of the world. In truth the USA was taken over almost from the very beginning and we've never been free from London, look closer at them. What the controllers didn't see coming was the people actually truly believed they where free and at this time to see they aren't after Biden is an outrage.

This is pure cope.

MAGA isn't dead like our enemies will have you believe. We will continue on for justice and freedom whether others support us or not. If Trump isn't the man we thought he was we'll find out but not by the angry words of others.

What is important to me in finding the truth, in a world saturated by lies, is good research and unbiased, thorough investigation. Looking at the history over many years. That's what I can use to make a more truthful assessment of what the reality is. That's the #1 reason I hold off on determining what the actuals are. One liners of condemnation are emotional outbursts which distract from getting to the bottom of things.

I'm not your enemy and neither are the American people. You all can be angry as to how things have gone which I understand, I'm rather furious as well. But, I also understand its good not to be carried away by our emotions.

Anyway, we share the same enemy and we're trying to do something about it whether you think Trump is a fraud or not. I'm not a fraud and always endeavor to see clearly.

You don't care about truth. At the moment, what you care about is clinging to Trump and the deluded hope that he can turn things around.

I've voted for Trump, multiple times. I hate this. I also knew that it was a snowball's chance in hell that it was actually going to make any difference. I only ever expected Trump to be an inconvenience at best and voted for him as a way of thumbing my nose at the Epstein Class.

Unfortunately, Trump is the best thing that could have happened to the U.S., but not for the reasons people expected or wanted.

It appears to me your strong beliefs in how things REALLY are means that I have lost touch with reality since I'm at odds with your understanding. In thinking about this whole conversation it occurs to me its the sign of mature adults who can disagree with each other on important topics but allow for differences and respect each other even though they disagree. At least you tried to be a little considerate by not coming right out and saying "your delusional" . It's not a all encompassing reflection on ones entire life because they hold a particular view on a certain subject. Isn't that obvious? You needn't clue me in on "The Work". I was doing that way before coming here and I have read the recommended books and continue to work on myself, its just a way of life for me. It's one reason why I joined this group. Look, people don't always agree and see things the same way, its just a fact. Perhaps that old saying "we agree to disagree" is appropriate. I'd say the majority here see the Trump issue pretty much the same way. It would have been so much easier to say nothing since I know this. To me this is a part of my work. To face my fears of ridicule when so many are against me. To have the courage to speak when others want you to be silent or at least change your mind. Speaking my mind has so often met with objection so I learned to remain silent. Thanks for the opportunity to work on myself. I don't wish to be involved in a battle of minds. Having a different perspective then the majority has always been a part of my life. You all disagree with me, ok, I accept that. Carry on.

Will all this be filtered into AI?

This is a moment for self-reflection SL. You've been told numerous times that you are not seeing things clearly. You disagree, obviously. However, this is one of those moments where you actually should be listening to the network instead of doubling down on your belief in yourself.

You say the Work is just a way of life for you. Well, it doesn't show.

 

[SummerLite]

I've heard whats said here and I'll consider it. Paying to much attention to whats happening in the political world has been to much of a preoccupation for me which I know. It consists of so much deception its best not to be overly involved. I already knew what would be said here before posting as there has been a difference in thoughts concerning the matter for a long time. It's not something that needs to be discussed further as I understand your point of view and I don't see how adding to it is beneficial.

 

[daddycat]

I've heard whats said here and I'll consider it. Paying to much attention to whats happening in the political world has been to much of a preoccupation for me which I know. It consists of so much deception its best not to be overly involved. I already knew what would be said here before posting as there has been a difference in thoughts concerning the matter for a long time. It's not something that needs to be discussed further as I understand your point of view and I don't see how adding to it is beneficial.

There's an exercise we can do. It's taking out the hat that says "I'm wrong" on it, putting it on, stating how you are wrong, and stating what you can do to change. Sometimes you will put on the "I'm wrong" hat when you are right, and it won't matter much. Sometimes you will put on the "I'm wrong" hat when you are wrong, and that's when it will matter a lot. You won't know if you're right or wrong at the time. However, right or wrong doesn't prevent you from doing the exercise and putting on the "I'm wrong" hat.

I recognize that there are higher forces at work that we don't understand, and maybe that's why we have this war that no one wants and that is against Trump's prior behavior. I hope that the future is open, and that Trump can untie the knots and snatch victory for good from the jaws of defeat. Better a human trying to do good in the office of the President, than a willing Epstein Satanic monster (Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Harris, Newsom) who could care less about doing good.

 

[Ruth]

I've heard whats said here and I'll consider it. Paying to much attention to whats happening in the political world has been to much of a preoccupation for me which I know. It consists of so much deception its best not to be overly involved. I already knew what would be said here before posting as there has been a difference in thoughts concerning the matter for a long time. It's not something that needs to be discussed further as I understand your point of view and I don't see how adding to it is beneficial.

So you can't see how you've been deceived? It might be something to work on.

 

[SummerLite]

There's an exercise we can do. It's taking out the hat that says "I'm wrong" on it, putting it on, stating how you are wrong, and stating what you can do to change. Sometimes you will put on the "I'm wrong" hat when you are right, and it won't matter much. Sometimes you will put on the "I'm wrong" hat when you are wrong, and that's when it will matter a lot. You won't know if you're right or wrong at the time. However, right or wrong doesn't prevent you from doing the exercise and putting on the "I'm wrong" hat.

I recognize that there are higher forces at work that we don't understand, and maybe that's why we have this war that no one wants and that is against Trump's prior behavior. I hope that the future is open, and that Trump can untie the knots and snatch victory for good from the jaws of defeat. Better a human trying to do good in the office of the President, than a willing Epstein Satanic monster (Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Harris, Newsom) who could care less about doing good.

Thanks, it really is welcome to have a response that isn't so hard ass and demeaning. Like one needs to be blasted for not having the proper point of view. It takes me back to the days of Anart who was so harsh on people. Before my time here thankfully.

Better a human trying to do good in the office of the President, than a willing Epstein Satanic monster (Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Harris, Newsom) who could care less about doing good.

Yes, this would be much better and Trump has always seemed like that kind of person to me.