If life is a movie...

Hi Genaro,

Yea it's a bit difficult to understand it exactly with our 3D perspective. Maybe you will enjoy this thread as it is about truth, the Universe and maybe our role in it.
 
Genaro said:
Although, I`ve always wondered, if at some we are fully aware and developed in every sense, we`re all one and what else...

Why the need to incarnate into these infinite beings and condemn "yourself" to this "infinite school".
If we at some level know everything, why the need for learning it all again, an infinite number of times?

Why would the infinite purposely "forget itself" to experience itself subjectively in this school that it created?

I do not know definitive answers to these questions but here are my current thoughts on it.

Man is said to be created in the image of the Creator. So though we are not capable of studying the Creator directly, we can study ourselves and gain some insights which could be applicable to the scale of the Creator and Creation although at a completely different scale and level.

Let us take a practical example - the human body. It can be said that we usually do not have enough awareness of our own bodies. But if we wished to focus awareness on our body, we could. Through the process of attention, we can access consciously different parts of the body. Like if I want to feel my left little toe without physically touching it, I can access it or connect with it using my awareness. Without that awareness, the little toe is there doing what it is supposed to do - as in a well designed machine different components work together without much conscious intervention. How exactly can I feel this little toe? There are internal sensors located inside the body which sense a variety of physical parameters and convey that information to the central nervous system using sensory neural pathways. These signals get decoded and interpreted in the CNS and somehow we activate these pathways with intention to get a conscious feel for our little toe. Then if we want to consciously wiggle the little toe, the CNS sends back information through motor neurones which activate a complicated series of processes which ultimately lead to the little toe wiggling. If the entire pathway does not work properly, then we will not be able to feel our little toe or wiggle it as and when we want it. Take the case of the leg falling asleep - it is a common sensation that we are familiar with. It is interesting that we use the term "asleep" here. If parts of the body fall asleep, we can no longer feel those parts as and when we want to feel them. If we go down to the cellular level, it is possible that some cells among a the population of cells may be in a condition which is akin to sleep - i.e they do not contribute in sending information out which can eventually be used to communicate with them while some other cells are doing the job of working and sending information back in some way to the command center. If there are not enough cells which are "alive" and working, the CNS will not be able to get a reasonable idea about what is going on in that particular area of the body which the cells inhabit. Now can we ask the question "why we want to feel our little toe"? A plausible answer would be that we want to feel alive and not dead or asleep.

Now we know from 4th Way literature, the Sufis and Laura's works that when the Absolute manifests, it breaks up into two parts - the first primary division - one part which wants radiate outwards towards creativity and life (STO or the life giving faces of God ) and the other part which contracts inwards towards sleep (STS or the life taking faces of God). The overall dynamic equilibrium of these two antagonistic forces is reflected in the totality of Creation. These forces go down by several levels into our own 3D level. Perhaps it can be said that if the Absolute consciousness felt that it wanted to feel the 3D human level (just as we decided to feel our little toe), it would need some components of Creation at that level (ie 3D humans) to be awake and working towards feeding information back through the chain to make it happen. If such information flow would not occur, then there will be efforts to arouse the sleeping parts. If such efforts fail to revive at least some consciousness units to get a good enough sense of "aliveness", then that part of Creation could be considered dead - just like prolonged lack of response from the little toe would indicate a serious medical condition and may lead to a diagnosis that the little toe is dead and beyond revival.

This is my current understanding of the concept of the role of consciousness units in the evolution of Creation or the concept of "debugging the universe". It seems we are very small components of a very vast system. It is not that the Prime Creator purposefully forgets itself but that we, as consciousness units which are fragmented parts of the Absolute Consciousness, could take up the responsibility to be "awake" to send back information up the levels to enliven the sector of Creation that we inhabit.

I apologize for the length of the post - hope it was worth it.
 
Genaro said:
Although, I`ve always wondered, if at some we are fully aware and developed in every sense, we`re all one and what else...

Why the need to incarnate into these infinite beings and condemn "yourself" to this "infinite school".
If we at some level know everything, why the need for learning it all again, an infinite number of times?

Why would the infinite purposely "forget itself" to experience itself subjectively in this school that it created?

I think you're asking questions from a limited 3D perspective, and these cannot be answered from a limited 3D perspective. We are not 'all one' in 3D - or even in 4D from what I understand. The concept of 'infinite number of times' only has meaning from a linear perspective. If our perspective is not linear (when we are no longer in 3D) then the idea loses all meaning - thus the question does as well. In short, it's not up to the student to design the school. I also think that when we reach a level of intimate and complete self-knowledge and understanding, the answers to all of the above will be as plainly obvious to us as the fact that our feet make contact with the ground when we walk.

I would suggest that you get comfortable with the idea that you cannot know such things and then focus on learning and understanding what you can know - in that lies the key. This is, at least, my current understanding.
 
I would suggest that you get comfortable with the idea that you cannot know such things and then focus on learning and understanding what you can know - in that lies the key. This is, at least, my current understanding.

Yeah I guess so, I know the limits we have but I have wondered for a long time why it is constructed the way it is, I think of it as a big cosmic joke, so to say.
Guess I should work on the things I can know now, but I always like to ask these like background questions behind it all.

I know its not the student who should maybe ask these questions but its kinda weird we somehow got stuck (maybe thats a harsh word) in this gigantic computer game, and only some of us will eventually kind of escape. (or we all will at some one time )
Its a really weird concept from this perspective.

Thanks for the answers, its puts some light surely, but these kind of questions will still haunt me from time to time I guess..
They are kind of background motivaters.
 
C's, log Nov. 26, 1994, say: "You understand concept, now you must decide if it is factual"

Could a next question be "how can I view myself in a film/movie"? Do you notice similarities in others?
 
Back in 2008, I was reading a book by Echart Tolle about how women marry men that are like their father's and that this is done unconsciously. I had always heard this spoken in jokes and such, but considered it to be just that, a joke.
As I read the book I began to seriously consider it. "Is my husband really like my Dad?" "If he is, in what way is he like my Dad?" Kept the questions in my mind and the thoughts began to flow. Little by little, bit by bit, I began to "see" and totally shocked said "Oh my God, its true, I married my father.!"

This did not occur to me in one day, but over a course of time. It was like a turning point in my journey. For me, it is not a concept any more, but an ongoing experience. In my time of meditation, pondering, etc., and asking questions such as "Why did my life go in this direction?" the "Who, What, and Why's" of things, I have been "seeing" connections. This person to that person, that person to this person. I feel that what I am viewing in my mind is my movie.

I had read "Seth Speaks" by Jane Roberts in 2006, two years prior which talks about this concept. I was reading one book after another and didn't know why until I found Laura and the C's and read about the "seeker".


This I do know, What I am viewing in my mind is of memories of my past, I have only seen parts of it, am still seeing clips of it and I don't know how the movie ends because I am still playing a part, a role in it. Does this sound crazy?

Brownie
 

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