Impact? Massive wave anomaly in the South Atlantic moving North

Another glitch on Ventusky? This picture shows how it developed until next monday (13th), and then suddenly vanishes.
Could it be that changes they did to software instead of hiding things made them more visible?
What if things are so bad that its impossible to cover without adding to software conditions such as "if color to be shown is going to be brown show orange/red instead"?

Or maybe that was part of plan - by making software show more and more bugs it will become less and less reliable and people will stop using it as trustworthy source to share.
 
Reading the latest SOTT Earth Changes Summary - April 2024: Extreme Weather, Planetary Upheaval, Meteor Fireballs I checked Ventusky and got a screenshot that at 22:01:58, (Central European Standard Time, that is CEST which is GMT/UTC +2) showed:
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This morning it was gone. Using the history functionality, the following is a series of screenshots:
At 1400 (CEST) Thursday, there was nothing:
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At 17:00 a spot shows up:
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It grows, and at 2000 it looked like this:
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At 2300
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This morning 0200, all was showing as normal:
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In the evening the max I had as it happened was 20.7 m. The archieved data show 21.6 m, at one location, 2300. As the colour scale is incremental with colour changes for every 2 meters between 0 and 14 meters, it is hard to see from the colour how much the difference really is.
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The wind speeds in the area were 50-60 km/h at 21:00, and corresponds to the general weather pattern. The disturbances in the sea were thus not caused by the wind.
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Apparently the record rainfall in Brazil's southernmost state is being caused by an 'atmospheric block'. Here's how the rainfall shows up as a 'precipitation map':


Now check out a map of the 'South Atlantic Anomaly' (the strength of Earth's magnetic field, as of 2020):

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Interesting coupling with the 'wave height anomaly' in the southern Atlantic, no?
 
Trying different parameter settings on Ventusky in attempt to explore the wave anomalies

If it was an outgassing, did any of the gasses they list show up in higher quantities? No, neither NO2 nor SO2 were higher, and they do not measure methane.

On Ventusky, there are wave settings. It turns out the anomaly is counted as swell waves. Here is a screenshot.
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The Wiki for Swell (ocean) begins:
A swell, also sometimes referred to as ground swell, in the context of an ocean, sea or lake, is a series of mechanical waves that propagate along the interface between water and air under the predominating influence of gravity, and thus are often referred to as surface gravity waves. These surface gravity waves have their origin as wind waves, but are the consequence of dispersion of wind waves from distant weather systems, where wind blows for a duration of time over a fetch of water, and these waves move out from the source area at speeds that are a function of wave period and length. More generally, a swell consists of wind-generated waves that are not greatly affected by the local wind at that time. Swell waves often have a relatively long wavelength, as short wavelength waves carry less energy and dissipate faster, but this varies due to the size, strength, and duration of the weather system responsible for the swell and the size of the water body, and varies from event to event, and from the same event, over time. Occasionally, swells that are longer than 700m occur as a result of the most severe storms.
About their formation, they write:
Large breakers observed on a shore may result from distant weather systems over the ocean. Five factors work together to determine the size of wind waves[1] which will become ocean swell:

  • Wind speed – the wind must be moving faster than the wave crest (in the direction in which the wave crest travels) for net energy transfer from air to water; stronger prolonged winds create larger waves
  • The uninterrupted distance of open water over which the wind blows without significant change in direction (called the fetch)
  • Width of water surface in the fetch
  • Wind duration – the time over which the wind has blown over the fetch
  • Water depth
I find it hard to believe that the huge patches they report are due to swells formed as described in the Wiki, though I can understand why they are categorized as swells.

Another setting is wind wave height, but there is little correlation:
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In general, one can go through a whole month of Ventusky data by going to the time setting in the lower right, click the down arrow, and it will show at the top "2024" and "Current days". Next to both categories, there are down arrows. If we wish to see all the previous days of May, click the down arrow next to "Current days" and select "May". You will not see all the days of the month. Select "1". Find and click the "Play" button in the lower left. The program will now show (play) the development of the data you are interested in from the beginning of the month. Besides the strange swell wave on May 6th:
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There were some good sized swell waves near Antarctica to the South:
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I checked the maximum wave height near the Antarctic coast and they are up to about 14 meters.

Considering a possible correlation with the positions of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge
The Mid-Atlantic ridge goes down through the Atlantic from North to South between the Americas and Europe/Africa. Here is a map that shows the tectonic plates from the Wiki on Plate tectonics.
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There is not a close match for the anomaly near Antarctica.
On the model, the ridge appears as a line, but it is not a simple line, and the ridge has fracture zones. The Wiki explains:
Fracture zones are common features in the geology of oceanic basins. Globally most fault zones are located on divergent plate boundaries on oceanic crust. This means that they are located around mid-ocean ridges and trend perpendicular to them. The term fracture zone is used almost exclusively for features on oceanic crust; similar structures on continental crust are instead termed transform or strike slip faults.
For the Atlantic Ocean, there is this introduction:
In the Atlantic Ocean most fracture zones originate from the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, which runs from north to south, and are therefore west to east oriented in general. There are about 300 fracture zones, with an average north-south separation of 55 kilometres (34 mi):[6] two for each degree of latitude. Physically it makes sense to group Atlantic fracture zones into three categories:[7]

  1. Small offset: length of transform fault less than 30 kilometres (19 mi)
  2. Medium offset: offset over 30 kilometers
  3. Large offset: offset several hundreds of kilometers
Looking up one example from the list there is about the Verna Fracture Zone:
The Vema Fracture Zone is a fracture zone in the equatorial Atlantic Ocean. It offsets the Mid-Atlantic Ridge by 320 km to the left.[1] Its transform valley has a depth of 5000m. The fracture zone can be traced for over 2500 km east to west.
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They do not all look like the above, the Wiki for the Bouvet Triple Junction begins:
The Bouvet Triple Junction is a geologic triple junction of three tectonic plates located on the seafloor of the South Atlantic Ocean. It is named after Bouvet Island, which lies 275 kilometers to the east.[citation needed] The three plates which meet here are the South American Plate, the African Plate, and the Antarctic Plate. The Bouvet Triple Junction although it appears to be a R-R-R type, that is, the three plate boundaries which meet here as mid-ocean ridges: the Mid-Atlantic Ridge (MAR), the Southwest Indian Ridge (SWIR), and the South American-Antarctic Ridge (SAAR) is actually slightly more complex and in transition.[2]
[...]
There are two prominent transform valleys in the area: Conrad transform and Bouvet transform. Both transforms are named as fracture zones.[3] Conrad transform is named after USNS Robert D. Conrad (T-AGOR-3).[3] Bouvet Island is the highest point on the southern wall of the Bouvet transform and was formed 2.0–2.5 million years ago.[4]
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The complexity of the ocean floor with the many fracture zones and the geological variations within the Earth's Crust, much of which is little explored due to the depth of the oceans, can explain the possibility that there are deep deposits of gas that under certain conditions can be released very suddenly and give rise to ocean swells. The energy for the swells would not be from so much from the wind as from the water being pushed by the upwelling gas. That the wave anomalies in the Southern Hemisphere tend to move mainly North needs an explanation. Is it related to the Earth-Moon system, the rotation of the Earth, or something else? It could be interesting to go through the archived data, month by month, and try to find out if there are any patterns. What can be explained by ordinary swells and what can't? Have there been other events, that were not reported?
 
Another example, but is it a technical or a natural anomaly? Probably technical.

Looking through Ventusky swell wave records from May 2023 to May 2024, the following location appeared on 6 September 2023 in the Atlantic about 800 km south of Accra in Ghana. The position on the Ventusky map has the highest waves near Lat.: 1°34'S / Lon.: 0°31'W, the time was 12 UTC.
A note about the times on the screenshots
The helpfile said about the timeline:
By using the timeline at the bottom of the page, you can control the data displayed on the map. On this timeline, you can choose the forecast period for which you would like data to be displayed. Use the buttons to play the animation or move the data one forecast period forward or backward. The time is displayed in the time zone that is set up on your computer.
In the following image, two hours would need to be subtracted to get the UTC time:
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Notice above, the value of 11.7 meters. Zooming in there is this image below. The overall direction of the swell waves, south to north, interacts with the event added waves, though the right edge moves toward the north-east.
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The image below shows the situation three hours before. Then the swell waves were 2.2 meters, compared to the 11.7, this is a difference of 9.5 meters.
September 6  2023 before.png
The anomaly lasted until September 12 at 12 am and resumed the following day, September 13 at 12 UTC, lasting until January 16 at 10 UTC. The heights vary a little.
September 12 2023 0900 UTC.png
A few hours later the anomaly disappeared, the computer glitch was fixed or?
September 12 2023 1200 UTC.png
Taken together the last two images show that a swell wave of 11.9 meters at 9:00 UTC reduced to just 1.3 meters at 12:00 UTC. The above location or near appears later at other times. Try January 1 to 16th at 10 UTC of this year. The maximum wave height there might be a little to the south of this observation, but it is close. On the balance of the irregularities, I think this spot is a glitch but how did it come about?

Next time some place on the globe gets hit by large surprising waves, it would be interesting to check the application to see if there is a correspondence. Alternatively, one could go back and find dates and reports about surprising waves in previous months and then check what they had on Ventusky. Or if we notice an anomaly on Ventusky by checking regularly, there may also be a possibility to know when the bigger waves will hit. One thought was that if there is outgassing is there also collapse of the earth above an inrush of water. If a lot of water suddenly dropped into a cavity below the ocean floor, would it be felt above?
 

The size of that cloud is bigger than Africa. It may be an incorrect reading, or even an incorrect translation image of a correct reading - but that seems like a crazy about of gas to be emitted so regularly, no?

Maybe it'll stop if someone tells Justin Trudeau, there has to be some kind of new tax that will fix this.
 
The size of that cloud is bigger than Africa. It may be an incorrect reading, or even an incorrect translation image of a correct reading - but that seems like a crazy about of gas to be emitted so regularly, no?
Most of those are projections. The 26th, 29th and 30th of May haven’t arrived yet, unless VentuSky have access to a superluminal data feed. People shouldn’t post the projections, it wastes server resources and adds noise, and they just get removed anyway. We only need the actual observed data.
 
Most of those are projections. The 26th, 29th and 30th of May haven’t arrived yet, unless VentuSky have access to a superluminal data feed. People shouldn’t post the projections, it wastes server resources and adds noise, and they just get removed anyway. We only need the actual observed data.
VentuSky removed it already.

There is still from yesterday's 3:00 pm
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But it was removed from yesterday's at 6:00 pm
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Most of those are projections. The 26th, 29th and 30th of May haven’t arrived yet, unless VentuSky have access to a superluminal data feed. People shouldn’t post the projections, it wastes server resources and adds noise, and they just get removed anyway. We only need the actual observed data.
What if some of it is legitimate and some not? If there is a real issue that somebody would like to hide, they could choose to make that problem worse than it is, and then discredit the whole thing.

Alternatively, if the system is ruled by algorithms with feedback from real observations, but then one day an anomaly occurred, which went beyond what the system was programmed to do, the program might try to take the circumstances surrounding the event into account in its future forecasts, but since the parameters involved in the algorithm does not include any sudden outgassing, what the program might do is to forecast an anomaly whenever the situation in the seas and the weather systems are similar to those that were present when the anomaly occurred. If this is true, it is possible there were real anomalies, one or more times near the Arctic shore, southwest of South Africa halfway to the Arctic, and approximately 800 km south of Abidjan on the coast of Africa, near the Equator, which are the locations where we have seen these anomalies in the forecasts.
 
I was watching a tv show the other night and they mentioned something called a limnic eruption which, when I searched, only shows up twice on the forum.

There have been two reported cases of this, both in Cameroon. The first occurred in 1984 at Lake Monoun killing 37 people by asphyxiation. A second, and more 'famous', eruption happened at nearby Lake Nyos in 1986. This one released over 80 million cubic metres of CO2, and killed around 1,700 people and 3,000 livestock again by asphyxiation.

Here is a 4:40 video explaining this very rare natural disaster with a good animation. Since the narrator is AI, I found it easier to understand with CC.


As an fyi, there is a possible third historical example mentioned in the wiki:
The Roman historian Plutarch reports that in 406 BC, Lake Albano surged over the surrounding hills, despite there being no rain nor tributaries flowing into the lake to account for the rise in water level.[2] The ensuing flood destroyed fields and vineyards before eventually pouring into the sea. This event is thought to have been caused by volcanic gases, trapped in sediment at the bottom of the lake and gradually building up until suddenly releasing, causing the water to overflow.[3]

Now, the limnic eruption is, so far, specific to meromictic lakes (a lake with warm and cold water layers that do not intermix). It's never been observed in any ocean. However, in the report Dynamics of Lake Eruptions and Possible Ocean Eruptions first published in 2005, the authors suggest that it might be possible to have a limnic eruption in an ocean.

Possible Ocean Eruptions

Although no one has observed or witnessed them yet, ocean eruptions have been hypothesized (Ryskin 2003, Zhang 2003). Enormous amounts of CH4 [methane] are present in marine sediment in the forms of methane hydrate, methane gas, and dissolved methane in pore water (Kvenvolden 1988, 1998; Sloan 1990; Buffet 2000). The stability of the various forms of CH4 can change when certain external conditions change, such as a rise in bottom water temperature (Dickens et al. 1995; Kennett et al. 2002), a drop in sea level (Paull et al. 1991), or a landslide or faulting (Bugge et al. 1987, Maslin et al. 1998, Rothwell et al. 1998). Such changes may cause a sudden conversion of methane hydrate to methane gas, generating overpressure in the gas-charged sediment and the eventual burst of methane gas. If a burst or other disturbance releases a large amount of CH4 to seawater, either as gas or as hydrate that converts to gas, the gas could drive an eruption that in many ways is similar to a lake eruption. This methane-driven water eruption, not a fluidized sediment eruption, is referred to as an ocean eruption in this review. Ocean eruptions may provide a pathway for CH4 in marine sediment to rapidly pass through the ocean water column to enter the atmosphere as a greenhouse gas.

The idea, if I understand it correctly, is that methane would accumulate on the sea floor or in a crevace, but it wouldn't rise until something happened to release it all at once to the surface.

This is Laura's comment from the BP Oil Disaster thread where one of the 'limnic' search results exists (in her own quote that didn't copy over):
The laky Nyos situation was about a different kind of gas... maybe. In any case, a similar event with methane is even more problematical.

Anyway, there is a lot in that article I wrote in 2007 that applies to the present situation, most particularly:
[quote that didn't copy over]

The above really caught my eye. In the book, "Mother of Storms", the methane is released by a nuclear explosion in the arctic... well, we don't have that, but we have an "explosion" in the Gulf of Mexico and it looks like it's doing the same thing hypothesized by John Barnes in his novel. He did a lot of research on the science, by the way.

Because Bouvet Island is a volcanic island and the near a trench where this anomaly is manifesting, the outgassing suggestion could be explained by a theoretical oceanic limnic eruption. After reading the 'nuclear explosion' comment, I had another thought if there was perhaps 'third party' involvement? I'm not suggesting a nuclear explosion but, something? Though a natural cause might be more realistic.
 

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