In a conundrum over wireless
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gaman
Jedi Master
hlat said:
I agree and try to think in that mode instead of "strictly business" when I'm less subjective and more self-observant.
hlat said:
I'm not exactly sure what you are conveying in this part. I'm definitely responsible because I couldn't come up with a better way to minimize exposure or resist without strong censure or a serious threat to my job. If I had not turned the power up and gotten things working it would have cost the company and 100 workers a half a day's pay each so I turned it up out of personal self interest so that I wouldn't undergo the follow-on circumstances if I had refused to turn it up. I also could have lied/played dumb and never attempted to fix the problem that day. Maybe it would have been better all around just to refuse (in some manner) to address the problem and have faith that things would work out. Maybe that is what you are suggesting?
As a side note, I have spoken to the site surveyors about my concerns and they think we might be able to fix the issue without using the high power. This still isn't great because it gives more uniform / possibly overlapping coverage but not the high power and without lowering the access points. I'm happy not to lower the access points because I'm aware that the strength is a function of the inverse square of the distance from the source.
Infernal
Padawan Learner
I am a regular run of the mill geek. I don't think you really need my expertise as far as the technology goes, a simple lowering of access points and a better spread if wireless coverage will fix logistic problems, depending on your warehouse circumstances a combination of wired and wifi technologies may be best.
But, as for being 'forced' into this position, confidence and the courage of your convictions is your most important asset when taking your concerns to management.
If you present your claim looking weak, your claims will look weak too. If you present too aggressively you will be seen as a dissident or worse. Firm, confidence with an easy going demeanour (but not flippant) will generally be received well.
Also the outside group you contracted, get a FULL report and itemised bill of what they did. Make sure you understand each point on that bill, it will make invaluable evidence.
Good luck mate. I hope my thoughts help a little bit.
But, as for being 'forced' into this position, confidence and the courage of your convictions is your most important asset when taking your concerns to management.
If you present your claim looking weak, your claims will look weak too. If you present too aggressively you will be seen as a dissident or worse. Firm, confidence with an easy going demeanour (but not flippant) will generally be received well.
Also the outside group you contracted, get a FULL report and itemised bill of what they did. Make sure you understand each point on that bill, it will make invaluable evidence.
Good luck mate. I hope my thoughts help a little bit.
ScottD
Jedi
I know this is a couple months behind but....
I have often had to back channel items like this to those that are more receptive to hearing it. So, if you have a safety board or group that handles employee safety, even Human Resources, you can easily present them with a solid case regarding health implications from wireless. Your core IT people aren't really ever concerned about employee safety as much as they are about keeping everyone happy and the infrastructure uptime at 99%. They'll feign concern over safety when it's really just a checkbox on a list or some 6 Sigma requirement.
If you do present your case though outside of your core group there could be backlash and I would always have an alternative plan for when asked. That would be the first question I would ask if someone wanted to change an infrastructure item - "What do you propose to use in it's place?". For a warehouse setting though it would be difficult to come up with a way to handle business without wireless technology other than say powerline-ethernet connections and mobile workstations that have to be plugged in to sync. Some of the old tech for handheld IR guns had to do such a thing.
On the other hand, if you're concerned about you and your staff and you have no alternative; look into ways to mitigate or soften the blow from EM. You can only do so much.
I have often had to back channel items like this to those that are more receptive to hearing it. So, if you have a safety board or group that handles employee safety, even Human Resources, you can easily present them with a solid case regarding health implications from wireless. Your core IT people aren't really ever concerned about employee safety as much as they are about keeping everyone happy and the infrastructure uptime at 99%. They'll feign concern over safety when it's really just a checkbox on a list or some 6 Sigma requirement.
If you do present your case though outside of your core group there could be backlash and I would always have an alternative plan for when asked. That would be the first question I would ask if someone wanted to change an infrastructure item - "What do you propose to use in it's place?". For a warehouse setting though it would be difficult to come up with a way to handle business without wireless technology other than say powerline-ethernet connections and mobile workstations that have to be plugged in to sync. Some of the old tech for handheld IR guns had to do such a thing.
On the other hand, if you're concerned about you and your staff and you have no alternative; look into ways to mitigate or soften the blow from EM. You can only do so much.
gaman said:
Chiming in a little late, here!
Well, there is something to say for such "passive resistance", but then again, they eventually had to turn the power up. IMO, it would have been better to mount them lower at a lower power level. If there must be wireless stuff, then at least that means that somebody working right next to an access point would have had lower overall exposure. If that's the best you can do, then it's better than nothing.
gaman said:
It's easy to say, "You took the easy way out", but when you're the one in the position, dealing with it in real-time, it's often not quite so simple. I think it's also important not to obsess over it. I think you are right to be concerned, but the simple fact of the matter is that in this day and age, EVERYTHING is wireless. It would be very difficult (if not impossible) to justify having all wired equipment in the situation you describe. It just "doesn't make good business sense". In short, the world is so screwed up and blind and dumb, that I think to a large extent, you simply must play your role and do your job. You can minimize certain risks and exposure levels if possible, but it doesn't sound to me like switching to an all-wired setup would have been possible, anyway.
But, if you worry about it too much, then there is no energy left over to do other things. If people at your company weren't working there, they'd be working somewhere else, and they'd still be exposed to WiFi and all kinds of wireless stuff. When they eat out at a restaurant, they're being blasted by WiFi and cell phone signals. The same is true when they take a bus, or ride a train, or do literally anything else. For the vast majority, it's unavoidable due to our wonderful "modern" civilization.
Frankly, it's kind of like the people of the world are being fed 100mg of poison every day, and you are upset because you think you might have been able to reduce their daily exposure by 10mg. Well, there's still the 90mg you can't do anything about, so they're still being poisoned. This is all possible because people don't understand that they are being poisoned, and if they do, they don't care. It's not important enough. You want to reduce their exposure, but they want to carry around a cellphone and tablet and bombard themselves all day with WiFi and other microwave radiation.
Did you know that it's very difficult to even buy a normal laptop nowadays that has gigabit ethernet? WiFi is now so popular that computer manufacturers will save a few cents on every laptop built by including only fast ethernet instead of gigabit ethernet. It's an uphill battle, for sure. Thus, how many of the company's employees have WiFi in their homes? Probably most of them, so they're getting it when they sleep, as well.
So, the only solution I can see is to spread awareness of what is actually going on. If the general population understood the dangers, they would demand change. You alone cannot effect that change. But, you could work towards increasing awareness of it, which might be enough to tip the scales in favor of a "wired revolution", so to speak. But if you just beat yourself up over that 10mg, nobody gets anywhere.
Well, that's my 2 cents on the matter, anyway.
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For my home I decided not use Wi-fi (TV, thermostats etc), but:
+ AirCon came with Wi-fi (my electrician said that he knows how to remove this module);
Do you have idea how to disable Wi-fi for:
+ Washing machine?
+ Fridge?
Seems that PTB really want to know every aspect of people's lives and start puting wireless to as much appliances as possible.
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