Insomnia after EE?

Carl

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Hey, I recently did the EE meditation properly all the way through today, and have to say it's absolutely amazing. However i feel SO rejuvenated that I have been lay in bed for three hours, getting nowhere near close to sleep and it is driving me crazy, I would be very angry about it if it wasn't for the general fantastic peaceful mood that EE has put me in.

Does anyone find they need less sleep due to Éiriú Eolas?
 
Did you do the full program just before going to sleep (or trying to go to sleep in this case)? I think the 3 stage breathing and Warrior's breath energize way too much so it's hard to get to sleep immediately after doing the full program (unless you're really tired/sleepy). If you can, do the full program in the morning or mid-day. I only do some pipe breathing and POTS before going to sleep at night and do the full program or the program without round breathing/Beatha in the morning.

If you didn't do the full program right before going to bed for the night, then I don't know, it may not have anything to do with EE. While I've been needing less sleep in the last several months, it's not because of EE, as I've been practicing EE regularly since summer of 2009. It started a couple of months after going low/no carb, high animal fat diet. It just seems that I can go on 5 to 6 hours of sleep a night, where before the low carb diet, I need a good 7 hours not to feel tired.

Are you doing the low carb paleo diet, as well? That could be more connected to not sleeping more than EE.
 
Yes I did it very late in the evening as I was in a weird stressed mood and couldn't focus, I'll do it earlier from now on thanks :) .

As I am currently a student with about £150 to live on until January I'm afraid there is no chance of me doing paleo diet, so I couldn't say. I will try it one day when I have some money spare.
 
SeekinTruth said:
Did you do the full program just before going to sleep (or trying to go to sleep in this case)? I think the 3 stage breathing and Warrior's breath energize way too much so it's hard to get to sleep immediately after doing the full program (unless you're really tired/sleepy). If you can, do the full program in the morning or mid-day. I only do some pipe breathing and POTS before going to sleep at night and do the full program or the program without round breathing/Beatha in the morning.
This is good advice, check what the differences are compared with doing the full session earlier in the day.

SeekinTruth said:
If you didn't do the full program right before going to bed for the night, then I don't know, it may not have anything to do with EE. While I've been needing less sleep in the last several months, it's not because of EE, as I've been practicing EE regularly since summer of 2009. It started a couple of months after going low/no carb, high animal fat diet. It just seems that I can go on 5 to 6 hours of sleep a night, where before the low carb diet, I need a good 7 hours not to feel tired.
I've found this too, although in my case it may be a consequence of underlying emotional stress as posted in the EE thread, although I suspect that the diet is playing a part.

carlise said:
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As I am currently a student with about £150 to live on until January I'm afraid there is no chance of me doing paleo diet, so I couldn't say. I will try it one day when I have some money spare.
You may well find that the Paleo diet is much cheaper than the 'standard western diet' (as many of us have found), even taking into account buying organic meat - the cheaper, fattier cuts are much better and fresh vegetable costs are out, along with 'grain' costs. The portion sizes needed are much smaller too, search forum posts on maximum protein amount per meal quoted in Primal Body, Primal Mind. Also, see Laura's post [ http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22916.msg308827.html#msg308827 ] on starting the Paleo diet. Starting now, you'll almost be there by January, even on your student money. :)

You'll probably be amazed at the savings that you make. For example, from my local butcher, I buy (approx £3) the skin (for making crackling) and fat left over from making sausages, there is enough meat in the fat to make several meals (cheap meals of diced pork shoulder, slow cooked - delicious), and plenty of fat to make lard (to provide the fat for the diet), or even just for cutting up or mincing to add to other cheap cuts of meat. Streaky bacon is cheap too - nobody wants the fat! :)

This may help, or not.
 
Hi Carlise,

Have you already had the opportunity to have a look at the EE thread in the Public section of the FOTCM: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,12837.0.html ?

Several members have shared in that thread about being energized after EE sessions and not being able to sleep. I'm one of them. I usually do the EE during the day (late afternoon) or I'm just too awake and 'ready to go' to fall asleep! :)
 
Trevrizent said:
carlise said:
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As I am currently a student with about £150 to live on until January I'm afraid there is no chance of me doing paleo diet, so I couldn't say. I will try it one day when I have some money spare.
You may well find that the Paleo diet is much cheaper than the 'standard western diet' (as many of us have found), even taking into account buying organic meat - the cheaper, fattier cuts are much better and fresh vegetable costs are out, along with 'grain' costs. The portion sizes needed are much smaller too, search forum posts on maximum protein amount per meal quoted in Primal Body, Primal Mind. Also, see Laura's post [ http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22916.msg308827.html#msg308827 ] on starting the Paleo diet. Starting now, you'll almost be there by January, even on your student money. :)

You'll probably be amazed at the savings that you make. For example, from my local butcher, I buy (approx £3) the skin (for making crackling) and fat left over from making sausages, there is enough meat in the fat to make several meals (cheap meals of diced pork shoulder, slow cooked - delicious), and plenty of fat to make lard (to provide the fat for the diet), or even just for cutting up or mincing to add to other cheap cuts of meat. Streaky bacon is cheap too - nobody wants the fat! :)

This may help, or not.

Yeah, since you also tend to eat much less -- no snacking -- and don't get hungry, you DO actually end up saving money on food. It's a win-win situation: much healthier diet AND saving money. Not to mention more energy and clearer brain.
 
Mrs.Tigersoap said:
Hi Carlise,

Have you already had the opportunity to have a look at the EE thread in the Public section of the FOTCM: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,12837.0.html ?

Several members have shared in that thread about being energized after EE sessions and not being able to sleep. I'm one of them. I usually do the EE during the day (late afternoon) or I'm just too awake and 'ready to go' to fall asleep! :)

I see :). To be honest I wasn't expecting it to be this powerful (even considering the fact that everyone and their dog here reccomends it), i will do try to do it in the afternoon instead.

Trevrizent said:
carlise said:
...
As I am currently a student with about £150 to live on until January I'm afraid there is no chance of me doing paleo diet, so I couldn't say. I will try it one day when I have some money spare.
You may well find that the Paleo diet is much cheaper than the 'standard western diet' (as many of us have found), even taking into account buying organic meat - the cheaper, fattier cuts are much better and fresh vegetable costs are out, along with 'grain' costs. The portion sizes needed are much smaller too, search forum posts on maximum protein amount per meal quoted in Primal Body, Primal Mind. Also, see Laura's post [ http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,22916.msg308827.html#msg308827 ] on starting the Paleo diet. Starting now, you'll almost be there by January, even on your student money. :)

You'll probably be amazed at the savings that you make. For example, from my local butcher, I buy (approx £3) the skin (for making crackling) and fat left over from making sausages, there is enough meat in the fat to make several meals (cheap meals of diced pork shoulder, slow cooked - delicious), and plenty of fat to make lard (to provide the fat for the diet), or even just for cutting up or mincing to add to other cheap cuts of meat. Streaky bacon is cheap too - nobody wants the fat! :)

This may help, or not.

SeekinTruth said:
Yeah, since you also tend to eat much less -- no snacking -- and don't get hungry, you DO actually end up saving money on food. It's a win-win situation: much healthier diet AND saving money. Not to mention more energy and clearer brain.

This is good news, guess I have no excuse to stop being lazy about it now :P Thank you for the advice.

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Yep, have definitely experienced the not going to sleep bit. "I" just take it as an opportunity to meditate to even deeper levels, and with an impartial and objective "I" observe all that comes to me both from within and from without, noting its point of origin, "I" proceed to discern what the input has to teach me, and then learn it.

How long does it take? don't ask me because my perception of time is kind of blurring at this point, and when "I" am in that state the only marker for time is my body saying "oy go to sleep dammit." :D
 
I would only ask if you are involved in any exercise programs at school, or at home? Low impact, such as swimming, cycling, walking, hiking, in a stress free, and clean setting. Do you, or can you make time for any creative outlets, to stimulate the imganation, which can be a great stress reducer in ones busy life?

Like others here have expressed with the Paleo diet, EE breathing program, and time for meditation, it is a definite win, win, situation to combating the the syndrome of insomnia.

Last, how is your vitamin nutrient program, such A,D, B's, Amino Acids, C, zinc, etc, or a good quality ( pharmaceutical grade ), mutibite?

Exercise
http://www.holisticonline.com/remedies/sleep/sleep_ins_exercise.htm

People who regularly engage in exercise have fewer episodes of sleeplessness. Exercise promotes improved sleep quality by allowing smoother and more regular transition between the cycles and phases of sleep.

Moderate exercises lasting 20 to 30 minutes three or four times a week will help you sleep better and give you more energy. Exercise in the morning or afternoon, not close to bedtime.

Vigorous exercise during the day and mild exercise at bedtime will not only help you fall asleep and stay asleep more easily but will increase the amount of time you spend in deepest Stage 4 sleep. For some people, exercise alone is sufficient to overcome their sleep problems.

Stanford University School of Medicine researchers studied the effects of exercise on the sleep patterns of adults aged fifty-five to seventy-five who were sedentary and troubled by insomnia. These adults were asked to exercise for twenty to thirty minutes every other day in the afternoon by walking, engaging in low-impact aerobics, and riding a stationary bicycle. The result? The time required to fall asleep was reduced by half, and sleep time increased by almost one hour.

Benefits of Exercise

*Exercise reduces stress by helping to dissipate the lactic acid that accumulates in the blood.
*Exercise eases the muscular tension that can build up.
*Exercise sharpens the brain by increasing the amount of oxygen available.
*Exercise strengthens and stimulates the heart and lungs.
*Exercise vitalizes the nervous system
*Exercise activates the endocrine system.
*Exercise increases the body's production of endorphins. Endorphin creates a sense of well-being and increases the body's resistance to pain.
*Exercise stimulates the release of epinephrine, a hormone that creates a sense of happiness and excitement.
*Exercise reduces the boredom, worry, and tension.
*Exercise improves sleep because it is a physical stressor to the body. The brain compensates for physical stress by increasing deep sleep.
*Therefore, we sleep more deeply and soundly after exercise.

Exercise to Combat Sleeplessness

Two findings about exercise are particularly relevant to insomniacs.

1. Insomniacs lead more sedentary lives than good sleepers. The lack of physical activity can contribute to insomnia by inhibiting the daily rise and fall of the body-temperature rhythm. As a result, many people get caught in a cycle of insomnia, reduced energy and physical activity, and worsened insomnia.

2. Exercise improves sleep by producing a significant rise in body temperature, followed by a compensatory drop a few hours later. The drop in body temperature, which persists for two to four hours after exercise, makes it easier to fall asleep and stay asleep.


The exercise you choose should involve vigorous use of your legs if it should help with your sleep. The fatigue produced by [using leg muscles] acts as a tranquilizer.
Aerobic exercises are the best to combat sleeplessness. These exercises increase the amount of oxygen that reaches the blood. Examples of aerobic exercises are: jogging, swimming, riding a bicycle, jumping rope, dancing, riding a stationary bicycle, using a treadmill, and walking. A mild workout for fifteen to twenty minutes a day, four days a week, will be enough for you to feel the benefits. Stretch before and after you do anything vigorous. Allow yourself a cool-down period after exercising, before you stretch.

For many people, the ideal time to exercise is early in the morning. But for combating insomnia, the best time to exercise is at the end of the afternoon or in the early evening. If possible, however, avoid exercise in the late evening or just before going to bed. Exercise is stimulating to the body. It can take quite a while for your muscles and circulation system to calm down again after a vigorous workout.

Mild, non-aerobic exercise may help you unwind at the end of the day.
Take a leisurely walk breathing deeply and allowing yourself to respond to the physical sensation of being outside.

Gentle dancing to pleasant music can help you lift your mood and relax your body.
Yoga and stretching exercises are good ways to wind down.

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